SteamOS on desktop PC with Nvidia GPU?

[리치실드]

I wonder if steamOS is coming to desktop PC. I'm a windows 10 user and probably in some y ears steam client won't support W10 anymore, I don't want to go W11, I just don't see the point of it. So my alternative is linux, but I kinda want steamOS for my personal desktop PC. is valve planning on doing it?

[Shugo]

just to be clear, the current "steam OS" is like a console OS, you can't do much on it other than browsing the web, and play games from what i saw

if you need more of a Windows substitute, would be better with linux mint, and install steam on it, probrably a lot easier to do your day to day stuff

i do hope Valve makes a Windows Substitute some day, but i don't think it is in their plans, it is more of a steam deck consoles thing for now

[Gengear]

To my knowledge, Valve has no plans to make a Personal Desktop OS, SteamOS will just be the Console OS that's on Steam Deck, you can use it as a personal desktop, but every time you boot your computer, you'll be in a GUI that expects a controller, then you'll have to manually switch out to desktop mode, you'll have no lock screen, etc.

If you want a personal desktop replacement, Bazzite is highly recommended, a lot of people who use Bazzite use the "Home Theatre" option, which is the console mode, it defaults to big picture, however, there are desktop editions of Bazzite, and one that uses KDE Plasma (The same Desktop that SteamOS uses, but with an actual login and lock screen)

Bazzite with a Desktop first option, already works with Nvidia, what struggles to work with Nvidia, is GameScope, GameScope is what the console/Home Theatres mode of Bazzite/SteamOS depends on, I believe there are a handful of Nvidia cards that work with GameScope, but not many, however, I imagine by the time Valve stops supporting Windows 10, this will be a none issue.

[Shugo]

and SteamOS is basically stripped down Arch Linux tailored for steam deck machines, where you don't need libreoffice, mail app, and other stuff, you power on, and play games, that is it.

[리치실드]

Originally posted by Shugo:

and SteamOS is basically stripped down Arch Linux tailored for steam deck machines, where you don't need libreoffice, mail app, and other stuff, you power on, and play games, that is it.

Ahhhh didn't know it was arch, I might try installing arch from 0 with a tutorial. thanks for that alternative

[Gengear]

Originally posted by Shugo:

just to be clear, the current "steam OS" is like a console OS, you can't do much on it other than browsing the web, and play games from what i saw

You can do pretty much anything you can do on a normal immutable OS, like Fedora Kinoite, you just have to go to desktop mode, then, as long as the apps you want, are available as a Flatpak or a appimage, you can run them just fine.

I use Fedora Kinoite as my main Laptop OS, and it does everything I ever used Manjaro or Ubuntu for, but its less likely to break, and more secure, I wouldn't move to SteamOS due to it being extra work to get to the desktop, and no proper lock screen, etc.

[Gengear]

Originally posted by 리치실드:

Originally posted by Shugo:

and SteamOS is basically stripped down Arch Linux tailored for steam deck machines, where you don't need libreoffice, mail app, and other stuff, you power on, and play games, that is it.

Ahhhh didn't know it was arch, I might try installing arch from 0 with a tutorial. thanks for that alternative

It appears that this is your first time with Linux? Its highly unrecommended for someone who is just jumping into Linux, to use Arch.
It's kinda like how people would happily recommend Ubuntu to newbies, but wouldn't recommend Debian, however, Debian is defo a far better starting point for a newbie, than Arch.

Bazzite is the current day recommending starting point for those who primarily want to game on there Desktops.

[tyl0413]

Originally posted by Shugo:

and SteamOS is basically stripped down Arch Linux tailored for steam deck machines, where you don't need libreoffice, mail app, and other stuff, you power on, and play games, that is it.

You can do nearly anything you want on a Steam Deck, I have nix package manager installed on mine bc I hate flatpak, you can install and run anything on it like any distro, its just set up out of the box that it takes a few extra steps to like unlock the file system, etc.
They'll probably make a few changes to make it more suitable for desktop use by defualt for the desktop release.

[리치실드]

Originally posted by Gengear:

Originally posted by Shugo:

I use Fedora Kinoite as my main Laptop OS, and it does everything I ever used Manjaro or Ubuntu for, but its less likely to break, and more secure, I wouldn't move to SteamOS due to it being extra work to get to the desktop, and no proper lock screen, etc.

Damn, There are too many distros to pick, I manly do gaming, music, videos, entertainment as general.

[ZulkirVT]

use Bazzite. it's amazing.

[@R+5]

Originally posted by Shugo:

just to be clear, the current "steam OS" is like a console OS, you can't do much on it other than browsing the web, and play games from what i saw

Not exactly, anyone can install many non-steam programs and even windows stuff using lutris or other tools; there are also many programs available that can be installed without needing to change and do things that may affect negatively the system or break it.

is true is hard to change some settings, but isnt impossible: is advised to avoid trying to do so, because if you do change some settings and the os stops working from that, you may need to resintall it from scratch, and while that seems to be more or less easy, its another chance for things to go wrong.

Originally posted by Shugo:

if you need more of a Windows substitute, would be better with linux mint, and install steam on it, probrably a lot easier to do your day to day stuff

Linux Mint is nice, and is very stable (as long as you dont begin to change a lot of things), but after trying different distros, staring with many buntus, imo, the best "windows substitute", specially for gaming or using windows software through proton, is better to check "linux gaming distros", since those are made to make things easier for new users, and avoid having to search and install common tools for that.

after trying Nobara OS htpc version, which is compatible with nvidia gpus, i think is one if not the best option for trying "steam deck mode", and even use it for other things (maybe office stuff, or video editing, audio, or photography and digital art related stuff). one of the main reasons i recommend it is because the dev behind it is the same dev that works close with proton (what steam play uses to run windows games).

Originally posted by Shugo:

i do hope Valve makes a Windows Substitute some day, but i don't think it is in their plans, it is more of a steam deck consoles thing for now

thats what Steam OS is meant to be: a substitute for windows, focused in gaming; for non-gaming first, and for other uses second. but thats part of their roadmap.

also, steam os for now is only on steam deck, but in few weeks it will also be available for other pcs, because one of the main objectives and reasons behind their original attempt of steam machines was to avoid depending in microsoft and offer more options for devs, and users.