installing your SteamOS, parallel to Windows

[-T@HK-]

I wonder if there will be a version for installing your SteamOS, parallel to Windows .. For example, you can install ubuntu through or using the wubi application. And then it’s reluctant to completely delete the section, and I took interest to see what kind of OS this is. I'm also not eager to put any programs on virtual machines there (VitrialBOX, Vmware and others).
sorry for bad english..

[tobi]

When it's released properly they will have support for dual booting, you'll probably need to image a USB stick with it and then shrink one of your partitions to make room for linux

[-T@HK-]

Originally posted by tobi:

When it's released properly they will have support for dual booting, you'll probably need to image a USB stick with it and then shrink one of your partitions to make room for linux

yes - something like this I would like to see .. That is, as I understood, or rather Google translated, all the same, something like a vubi installation is expected ?!

[retrogunner]

I'm not holding my breath it will have dual boot options.
* it complicates OS validation and installation combinations
* Valve is trying to reduce dependency on Windows (as Steam Deck & it's Steam OS 3.x have demonstrated)
* Normal PC has other dual boot options, but their may be some sacrifices. Steam Deck can too but it's a purpose built PC device.

Valve is unlikely to make two radically different Steam OS 3 spins: Deck vs non-Deck. They either make Deck's a slim/tuned/pruned/refined version eventually derived version OR the non-Deck version simply have more graphic drivers for GPUs.

It's my understanding that Steam OS 3.x [currently] use a custom written boot loader [for Valve] so if primary os partition fails to boot, it falls back to the previous os boot partition as to ensure SteamOS will boot [on the Steam Deck -- Valve doesn't want you or themselves to deal with a brick & user rage]. This is a common practice with physical appliances (game consoles, enterprise devices, etc.) And having two readonly boot partitions, you cannot make /etc/grub/ tweaks.

If that truly is the case, that leaves two dual boot options - both require Windows & SteamOS on two separate storage - not a single drive will 12+ partitions:
* use the hardware boot selection option. The Deck can boot windows from SD Card and USB-C -- which has been currently demo'd on YT -- just like any normal PC BIOS boot selection.
* If you use a normal PC and not the Steam Deck, you could adjust the Windows Bootloader to target another volume to select on boot. (I dual boot Mint atm, but then my Win10, has an entry to boot without Hyper-V so select use-cases.)

Cheers, retro

[tobi]

Originally posted by retrogunner:

I'm not holding my breath it will have dual boot options.
* it complicates OS validation and installation combinations
* Valve is trying to reduce dependency on Windows (as Steam Deck & it's Steam OS 3.x have demonstrated)
* Normal PC has other dual boot options, but their may be some sacrifices. Steam Deck can too but it's a purpose built PC device.

Valve is unlikely to make two radically different Steam OS 3 spins: Deck vs non-Deck. They either make Deck's a slim/tuned/pruned/refined version eventually derived version OR the non-Deck version simply have more graphic drivers for GPUs.

It's my understanding that Steam OS 3.x [currently] use a custom written boot loader [for Valve] so if primary os partition fails to boot, it falls back to the previous os boot partition as to ensure SteamOS will boot [on the Steam Deck -- Valve doesn't want you or themselves to deal with a brick & user rage]. This is a common practice with physical appliances (game consoles, enterprise devices, etc.) And having two readonly boot partitions, you cannot make /etc/grub/ tweaks.

If that truly is the case, that leaves two dual boot options - both require Windows & SteamOS on two separate storage - not a single drive will 12+ partitions:
* use the hardware boot selection option. The Deck can boot windows from SD Card and USB-C -- which has been currently demo'd on YT -- just like any normal PC BIOS boot selection.
* If you use a normal PC and not the Steam Deck, you could adjust the Windows Bootloader to target another volume to select on boot. (I dual boot Mint atm, but then my Win10, has an entry to boot without Hyper-V so select use-cases.)

Cheers, retro

In my opinion, you can't really go off of the current steam os image. They said on their FAQ:

Originally posted by https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/1B71-EDF2-EB6D-2BB3:

For all the tinkerers out there, please note that this system image is not quite SteamOS 3 yet. Depending on what you try to install it on (desktop, another handheld, refrigerator, toaster), it may not work properly.

forcing dekstop linux users to use the app center and wiping every non flatpak package after updating the system is not the right way for desktop, for handheld maybe but certainly not desktop so i bet my ass that they are going to change some crucial stuff about it... If they really wanna ship this to everyone, this terminal based installer without the option to change the install drive (except you go into the file and change it there) is not good for desktop and i think they will be killed if its in the final release

[-T@HK-]

Something began to think about his question, and I realized that I consider it a little nonsense, I will answer my question why:
1. Through wubi, the entire image is contained in one large file, which I consider a bad indicator.
2. Given the fact that now the games are very large, this is not an option at all, to "keep" it in one large image / file, etc...
Now, if only the OS itself will be loaded only through the wubi, and certain disks (HDD / SSD) will be connected there, then maybe something will be interesting ..
In general, I withdraw my question, the topic can be closed ..
Sorry for bad English (Google translator)