Originally posted by Bart-ee:

Originally posted by \\ Damrew´s //:

here you have your double standard,
You deleted my last offers but why not the incoming ones? Maybe the ones I receive are better than mine?

u/8708/o/5923657/
u/8708/o/5930067/


The funny thing is that they have moderator help activated, you are teaching them very well

Stop trolling already.

The idea of this whole thing is to protect users from reseller abuse. Protecting resellers from receiving offers that are not profitable for them is not our goal and it's certainly not worth the free time that the moderators invest into looking at offers.

In u/8708/o/5923657/ you are even given more value than requested, for 3/5 of the options you can pick. But of course that's not enough for you.

So let me get this straight:
Resellers can't make unfair offers, but 'regular' users can? Do you not see the hypocrisy?

Also, like \\ Damrew´s // and many others have said, gg.deals isn't holy. They make mistakes and some games will have a price, but not sell at it. Does that make it worth the price mentioned? No. But according to you: Yes.

If youre gonna ban people for sending bad offers, at least treat everyone fairly. Take a look at my recent offers. https://barter.vg/u/4a96/o/

Originally posted by Bart-ee:

Moral of the story according to Milan: an offer should be considered "fair" if 1/3 of it "might" be fair. The user has a 33% chance of accepting a game that makes the offer "fair", and just because there's some chance for the offer to be fair, the offer should be considered overall "fair" and by all means not declined by moderators.

What happens if the user has a 10% chance of accepting a "fair" offer (1 game of similar value, 9 of considerably higher value)? Does it still make the offer fair?
At what percentage are we allowed to start calling an offer "unfair"?

There is no chance at play since the user picks the game they want themselves. Maybe leave a comment
If you’re so worried

Originally posted by Bart-ee:

Originally posted by Milan:

This has gotta be a joke. Look at this offer he declined: https://barter.vg/u/4a96/o/5885409/
House flipper: 3,48
Magenta horizon: 3,66

House Flipper ~3,48€
vs:
Degrees of Separation ~7,27€
Magenta Horizon ~4,17€
Who's Your Daddy?! ~6,82€

2/3 games that the user could have picked are basically twice the value you offered, yet you don't mention them because it would make you look bad.
Makes total sense.

RIght, that's why i came here and posted the link. To not make myself 'look bad'

1 to 1 for Magenta Horizon would have been fair, no? I added those options i would rather have those and if they wanted to get rid of them more for some reason they could have accepted it for one of those. Win win situation if you ask me.

Originally posted by cheerie:

Originally posted by Bart-ee:

House Flipper ~3,48€
vs:
Degrees of Separation ~7,27€
Magenta Horizon ~4,17€
Who's Your Daddy?! ~6,82€

2/3 games that the user could have picked are basically twice the value you offered, yet you don't mention them because it would make you look bad.
Makes total sense.

Also worth mentioning that Magenta Horizon is on the users wishlist as well as in their tradedables, so the game that is supposed to make this offer 'fair' was the least likely to be picked anyway.

Sending an unfair offer is not the problem in this case in my eyes. It is coming here to lie and say it was a fair one just to make mods look like they are abusing users on the site

'Lying'
He declined an offer where i gave the user a fair option. Sure there were 2 unfair options, which the user could have simply ignored.

This has gotta be a joke. Look at this offer he declined: https://barter.vg/u/4a96/o/5885409/
House flipper: 3,48
Magenta horizon: 3,66

Originally posted by xMatiasVlazquez:

Originally posted by Milan:

I do the exact same thing you just said and have been banned 3 times now.

Dw you'll get a trash offer and the moderator will do nothing. I'm sure if we send the same offer to other one we will get banned instantly lol

Haha fr. Just look at my profile, most are worse and nothing is done.

Originally posted by xMatiasVlazquez:

Originally posted by Bloo:

Generally this site is a big joke now and pretty unfair, even for resellers. Some are banned, but those even much more greedy are not.

Seriously, leaving offers like this is not a problem? Zero interest about it or warning. Nothing.

https://barter.vg/u/7c5f/o/5855594/
https://barter.vg/u/7c5f/o/5855346/
https://barter.vg/u/7c5f/o/5855279/

And all his other offers are fine?

If you can't do FAIR banning then why you do that at all?
Do you know that you are leaving even worse deals to the people and they accept it?!
You are not helping if you are doing everything random!

And Bart-ee responses always looks like "I don't care about you, make more "fair" offers ,I am untouchable"

Seriously, if you can't do something right, don't touch this, I will inform people that they get worse deals because of your random offer declining!

For now it looks like you are cooperating with some of the resellers, who are giving you money.

Some users make worse offers. On the site they're free to accept, decline or ignore them. On those offers I'm giving them unbundled games and they had no problems with the activation of them. They're not new traders if someone wants to say "oh you're a shark and u wanna take advantage of the new ppl". Im offering good unbundled games and not trash games

I do the exact same thing you just said and have been banned 3 times now.

Originally posted by Solomon:

This moderator
https://steamcommunity.com/id/barterdotvg/
https://barter.vg/u/70e2/
is inadequate and a hypocrite, he just closes deals and issues bans because in his objective opinion the deal is not fair. Instead of technically allowing users to see the cost of games. In this orentir is the gray market and does not take into account Bandle purchases that are many times cheaper than the gray market. So tell me why I can't trade my $15 game in exchange for Hamble Choice, even if individually it's more expensive or cheaper?
Also, you can't control all gray markets, and referring to just one is silly.
And here is proof of the hypocrisy of this moderation.
https://imgur.com/a/RgImews
Hire a good coder and let him make a link to the same gg.deals in the deals and remove these moderators who ban regular users.

Totally agree, but the trade you showed was a test (like it said in the message)

Originally posted by Ghaddar:

So you want to be free to scam people? lol
Just make fair offers its not hard dude

How is it scamming if they know it’s unfair but don’t care? If both parties agree it’s obviously not scamming

As we all know, barter now has a moderation system. I understand why they want to let people know about grey markets and the value of games, but there are much better ways to do this than just declining all ‘unfair’ offers.

-Barter has always and will always have unfair offers. You cannot stop that without killing the website
-Alternate solutions solve this problem for everyone. For example, when you sign up some sort of explanation about grey markets.

I asked Bart-ee if he would leave me alone if I would put a sort of 'ad' about gg.deals in my overview, so everyone i send an unfair offer to, would know that it's unfair and they can make up their own mind on if they care about gg.deals or not.

If the only goal for this moderation system is to enlighten people about the value of their games, why isn't my proposal good? It solves the problem for people unaware about grey markets while i can also keep trading