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Also, when you use automatic offers, it's your responsibility to check them for fairness / equity.
On 2023-12-12 22:45 UTC you have been warned with a potential suspension if you keep sending unfair offers: https://barter.vg/u/942e/o/5803938/
Later on, at 2023-12-12 23:45 UTC you sent another batch of offers using Enhanced Barter, such as https://barter.vg/u/942e/o/5803902/ (1€ for Vampyr / We Were Here Together 6.50€ / 7,99€).
And another batch later (or perhaps belonging to the same batch) at 2023-12-13 00:16 UTC https://barter.vg/u/942e/o/5803931/ (~0,78€ for Slay the Spire ~7,79€).
The value system used to evaluate these offers is gg.deals, as reselling seems to be your main purpose. Obviously you redeem some of the keys you trade for but that's fairly rare compared to all your other trades. And you also create giveaways, however your giveaways on SG are mostly for low-value games only, thus your overview message is yet another trap for innocent users to fall into.
As latest comments are displayed on the offers page, you surely must have seen my comment before sending the last two batches of automatic offers. The fact that you didn't care to revisit your pending offers and decline the unfair ones tells us that you preferred to ignore the suspension warning. So why complain about it now?
Most of your offers are one-sided, sent to your benefit / profit. Just like the other resellers profiles that you linked, your offers are clearly oriented towards sharking users form their valuables. You are not the only one whose offers are mediator-declined on a daily basis - the linked profiles also have dozens and dozens of offers mediator-declined.
Lastly, using Enhanced Barter puts a considerable strain on the database and often prevents anyone else to use the site for a few hours until the database manages to catch up with the big amount of pending matching queries.
During this time, due to the site's slowness, no management can be done (adding giveaways, bundles, adding / updating notices etc.) and it's also not possible for users to create new offers.
You use Enhanced Barter several times per day, disregarding the negative impact that this has on everyone else. The database was not built for such amount of traffic. As Barter.vg ran since the beginning without any monetary support or coding workforce aside from the admin's personal efforts, there's no possibility at the moment to upgrade the database or optimize the source code. Using the site in the manner you do (spamming hundreds of offers) will just speed up its death, soon rendering it unusable for everyone else, together with its comprehensive database of bundles / giveaways etc.
I didn't know about this about automated offers either. Only used them once a week, and mostly for help to discover non-wishlisted games, but I will not use them in the future.
Please consider adding some kind of stops for long inquiries like separate pages. Most of us don't need a long list of matching offers or blacklist all on one page. And please add an option to filter out those who only accept wishlisted games and no matching games the other side has. It stops some scraping too. And with the stressing the database.
Is there a crowd funding like pantheon or such to support the site and the server? Because many of us visit daily and not a single ad or link for support. Myself willing to pay a couple of bucks so the server becomes more responsive ( and some of the ideas got implemented)
Mediator-declined are those offers that are clearly sent with the intention of taking advantage of other traders not knowing how the reseller business works - aka sharking.
Just as you had most of your offers still standing even though they were extremely unfair, so do the other resellers. Just like only some of your offers are declined, so do only some offers belonging to other resellers get declined on a daily basis.
There's no personal vendetta against you, we apply the same rules to everyone trying to abuse trades.
I was hoping that you'd go through your outgoing offers and adjust them to be more fair after reading the reply to this thread. Instead, you just bumped them to make sure that they grab as much attention as possible. This goes without saying against the idea of being suspended and will only result in an extension to your current suspension.
Since you didn't care enough to do this, I went through your offers and declined those that had a big value difference. The remaining ones are the more decent ones that you sent out.
We are currently working on a guide to help new users understand how to better evaluate their offers.
The automated offers I'm referring to are not only the ones sent with Enhanced Barter, but also multi-user offers. Both types generate a huge amount of matching queries.
New features will likely not be added to barter; as explained above, the only person who can code is the admin and he has only a couple of hours per month to allocate to this project. There will be no automatic integration with gg.deals, we have been trying to avoid Barter being linked to grey market sites, even though resellers overtaking the site with their unfair offers makes it really difficult to keep our image integral.
"I was hoping that you'd go through your outgoing offers and adjust them to be more fair after reading the reply to this thread. Instead, you just bumped them to make sure that they grab as much attention as possible."
I'm sorry, I only wanted to do that, when I had my answer to my question, what counts as acceptable because "matching gg.deals" is just too vague because of the reasons I wrote, so I could change them accordingly. And I didn't bump those offers, I took out some games that I don't have keys to anymore. I nothing I hate more than I have to cancel an accepted offer because of my fault. I didn't know bumping was an option. But I think that's just annoying.
"multi-user offers"
why don't you deactivate the option? Most ppl don't like them and most of them are stupid offers anyway, like the offers for gems. I really don't get those.
"we have been trying to avoid Barter being linked to grey market sites"
I'm sorry, it is a little late for that when you evaluate games' cost using gg.deals and ask some users to do the same. It could help the users, so they don't have to search every game separately.
There are not many serious resellers on barter. 11 that I linked are the biggest and a couple more medium ones. I had them on my blocklist to keep them at bay if you interested. Basically, if they get suspended, most of the high-volume unfair offers stop. Until they are weeded out, they make a domino effect where they send out unfair offers, some see them and make similar unfair offers, and so on, and so on.
That's nonsense.
It's not the tool's job to send fair offers, it's the sender's job to monitor what the tool does and cancel the unfair ones.
Spending 10 mins checking the outgoing trades every time one runs it shouldn't be the end of the world.
If I can buy a game on Steam on sale for 75% less than on the grey market, should I have to offer gray market prices? Or if the key is rare, but the game still buyable on Steam with the full price is way less than its grey market price should I offer a grey market price?
If somebody defines their fair offers differently like in their overview or we had already completed trade or I check their completed offer - but it is not based on equal gg.deals, can I send them offers that suit their need or do I need to send them an equal gg.deal offer? Can a trader decide what is fair for them?
I'm really asking these so I can avoid suspensions in the future ^^