Why does barter.vg support resellers?

[Powaplaya27]

As title states there are numerous accounts on barter.vg that clearly and openly express they want double one of their games worth they are trading to line there own wallets while not providing a fair trade in the process.
Isn't this clearly against the principle and guidelines that barter.vg proposes when it polices trades between users?

Also, isn't encouraging users to ask for more for an item (based on prices that are price gouging because a game has been pulled off steam store) also wrong and further encourage users to stockpile keys when they are going to be removed off steam so they can profit rather than receive a trade they would want if they were looking for a particular game?

[Powaplaya27]

On top of that isn't encouraging a user to ask for more based on a price that a Bartee staff member has found online which is an expensive example of the market price and an example of price gouging not right? It's even worse when the price the Bartee staff member quotes is not even the cheapest of the price gouging prices on the grey market.

Isn't a barter when 2 people make there own decision on what they value there items worth at and trade accordingly?

[socialjeebus]

I agree, generally, with the first part of your post.

However, the second part is ridiculous.

In the case of deleted games - especially in the case of Steam Gifts, the baseline price no longer applies because they can no longer be purchased - except for on the grey market.

For example, in my inventory I have a steam gift of Spider-man Shattered Dimensions. Its RRP in my original country was $40 US. However, that value no longer applies because there are no copies available for anywhere near that price.

If I was to trade based on that original value of $40, I would lose out massively, most likely to a reseller who would make, at least, several hundred dollars profit on reselling it.

[Ghaddar]

Originally posted by Powaplaya27:

On top of that isn't encouraging a user to ask for more based on a price that a Bartee staff member has found online which is an expensive example of the market price and an example of price gouging not right? It's even worse when the price the Bartee staff member quotes is not even the cheapest of the price gouging prices on the grey market.

Do you have an example of this? Afaik most people use gg.deals (grey or official prices whichever is lower) as it takes into account bundles and people interest in the game.

[Powaplaya27]

I do.

Raiden III digitail edition. Sold on Steam many times for $2
Price gougers on grey market asking for $200 (I have seen it cheaper than this but the Bartee rep quoted $200 to a person I wish to trade the game with.

What happens if on the grey market price gougers put the price of a game at $1000 when it has sold for $2

Bartee is going to support price gouging and say "Market price is $1000 you should be asking this'?

[Powaplaya27]

Bartee has openly said they are against people buying keys that are going to be taken off the market to price gouge with right, Yet they support price gouging when instructing users in how to set there price for an item.

Do we want grey market price gouging i.e SHOP FRONT STORES to dictate a BARTER system?

[Powaplaya27]

@socialjeebus No, you wouldn't lose out because you didnt' pay the price gouging price for the game.

[Ghaddar]

Originally posted by Powaplaya27:

I do.

Raiden III digitail edition. Sold on Steam many times for $2
Price gougers on grey market asking for $200 (I have seen it cheaper than this but the Bartee rep quoted $200 to a person I wish to trade the game with.

What happens if on the grey market price gougers put the price of a game at $1000 when it has sold for $2

Bartee is going to support price gouging and say "Market price is $1000 you should be asking this'?

Is this the offer? /u/a2be/o/6040333/
I see Bart-ee saying its 83€, not $200
Where do you get the $2 price? I cant see that game being sold anywhere

[Powaplaya27]

Telling people what to set there price at is completely against the very namesake BARTER.vg uses.

[Powaplaya27]

Currceny converted to my currency.

[Powaplaya27]

Raiden III as I have already said has sold officiailly on Steam for $2

[Ghaddar]

Originally posted by Powaplaya27:

Raiden III as I have already said has sold officiailly on Steam for $2

It isnt sold anymore so it makes sense for the few steam keys still in circulation to go up in price.

[socialjeebus]

Originally posted by Powaplaya27:

@socialjeebus No, you wouldn't lose out because you didnt' pay the price gouging price for the game.

Lol. I would lose out. The reseller would make a massive profit. I would not.

It's really that simple.

[Powaplaya27]

@socialjeebus So lets put the shoe on your foot then. Lets say someone offers you 500 TF2 keys for your spiderman game right. Then someone from barter.vg sees this and tells the person you want to trade with "hey' we have seen that game for sale on a store for 50 keys. We don't recommenmd buying it from socialjeebus" and the person then refuses to trade with you. Would you like that?

That's why I do not support resellers, especially ones on a supposedly barter focused site.

If Barte.vg inteferes in barters and cites STORE prices they aren't really a barter site are they?

They are supporting the store and price gouging rather than supporting bartering.

[socialjeebus]

Originally posted by Powaplaya27:

@socialjeebus So lets put the shoe on your foot then. Lets say someone offers you 500 TF2 keys for your spiderman game right. Then someone from barter.vg sees this and tells the person you want to trade with "hey' we have seen that game for sale on a store for 50 keys. We don't recommenmd buying it from socialjeebus" and the person then refuses to trade with you. Would you like that?

That's why I do not support resellers, especially ones on a supposedly barter focused site.

If Barte.vg inteferes in barters and cites STORE prices they aren't really a barter site are they?

They are supporting the store and price gouging rather than supporting bartering.

Lol. You've literally just said that I wouldn't lose out if I traded with reseller for that game at the original value and the reseller then went on to make a massive profit.

And I wouldn't care if somebody called out my offer. Why? Because I'm not a crybaby and I'd be able to justify the offer I'd made.

[Powaplaya27]

How much did your spiderman key cost you?