Too much visual clutter

[StarBound]

I am just happy when something works in general and I am resistant to most changes after I've accustomed myself to a certain look and feel. I won't say the new look for the library is bad but I feel there is a sense of visual clutter that goes with it.

I feel that there is too much being reported now when looking at my games. I get the idea of making things more easily attainable (such as the dlc) but I don't see where my dlc is listed and it comes off as an xbox or playstation like store page on a page that should just have the details for my game. If I wanted the extra information I would have selected the options on the side. Instead it is now thrown in my face about what others are posting or streaming or whats just been added for purchase.

No thanks. Can we please get a more simplified library that is applicable to the game directly and leave the rest as an optional click away?

[Acubens]

+1
Old library was great. Don't fix it if it's not broken

[Fernrisúlfr]

Agreed. The old UI was easy to look at. This new one is eye searing.

[ArtiTice]

Totally agree with OP, I hate this new UI, I loved the old Steam UI and even had my own custom skin for it. I'm not liking this new user interface at all. Too much info on the screen and not fun to look at.

[CptKerion]

Far too much visual clutter, screws over those of us with Autism.

[Guardian Dave]

Originally posted by CptKerion:

Far too much visual clutter, screws over those of us with Autism.

this is what i feared. they didnt think about people with autism spectrum issues. arent there laws that say they need to consider that kind of thing or be financially liable?

[DG | Tom Da Bomb [S] [D]]

Originally posted by Guardian Dave:

Originally posted by CptKerion:

Far too much visual clutter, screws over those of us with Autism.

this is what i feared. they didnt think about people with autism spectrum issues. arent there laws that say they need to consider that kind of thing or be financially liable?

yes probably, although i wouldnt be surprised if they did think about it, and most likely figured it would play into their trigger devices for the impulsive user, a lot of the random info in the forced Whats New section is sponsored content meant to get users engaged and eventually turn into in-game sales, thats why MMO RPG games ignore the chronological order and usually show up above the other games, cuz they have more to sell and always see higher and longer in-game sales numbers by the nature of the game style

feels like the update wasnt trying to be good at a modern look, was trying to put a few systems in place as triggers. . . . .

which if some ppl like it then thats cool of course theres no problem there, although i would suggest you look into current marketing trends so you dont fall victim to tactics like FOMO etc. but they should really have a minimalist / simplistic version like the List view for users to use, Steam used to always say "we dont do that cuz of the lower end users" but i guess they gave that up and dont care anymore lol, or thought the new changes would be way more profitable, otherwise why isnt there an option? us Beta users were grilling them the last 3 weeks when it came out, but literally nothing, they only allowed us to disable the Recent Activity shelf cuz that was forced at 1st too like the Whats New

[Guardian Dave]

i never fear missing out but then i have always been odd and different to others. i like what i like. if i see something advertised i look into it rather than buy it. if i find i dont like it i dont buy. if i dont know it waits until its cheaper, and advertising just lets me know about something rather than make me want to buy it.

i see adverts for streaming seervices on tv and im not interested. the only reason i have steam is because games dont work without it. if i could buy physical only copies that would work legally without any online drm then i would prefer those, because if i dont have something i can hold i dont like spending money on it.

even music i wont stream like all those who think they only pay pennies and get cheap music streamed but dont realise i have cd or mp3 and i have paid what they do but have no need to pay to listen again and they will have paid ten times the cost of my cd over a few months, and still be paying to hear their fave songs streamed.

[PlasmaFox]

Give me back the old library setting. The new one is horrible.

[uismeno]

Originally posted by CptKerion:

Far too much visual clutter, screws over those of us with Autism.

+1

Seconded. Steam was my favorite interface until yesterday. Now it's extremely hard to look at. Couple that with an eye-tracking problem (that I used video games as therapy for), it's doubly bad. Every time I click a game I am splashed with this intense color scheme that used to not be there... with what appears to be the same fading technique that causes me to get a headache every time someone changes the channel on a plasma television.

I really like Valve, but I feel extremely alienated by this change and its implementation. Coupled with people objecting throughout the BETA in apparent droves to many of the same changes, it seems as though this was planned in certain fundamental ways to be implemented without any leeway for adaptability. This suggests it may be a bad business decision that Valve was too deep into bring to fruition to cancel or change. Of course this is solely speculation, but has been done by businesses in the past.

That said, if there is no way to go back to the old UI, at least could Valve:

A. Work on a way to emulate it using the new system.
B. Fix it so people with minimal computer builds can still function while using Steam.
C. Use this reaction as part of its data so the next change will be structured in a way that's less alienating to its customer base*

* Notice I didn't use the word "user base" but rather "customer base as we are all, for the most part, customers in Valve. If we've bought things from the store, we are their customers, their lifeblood. Valve carries itself as a community to boot. Forcing decisions upon your customers is a way to put them off; ignoring glaring feedback coming from inside your community, if they really did that as is appears they did, is a way to betray the people you're bringing together. It saddens me, but going forward I do hope there's an amicable solution that will satisfy everyone and Steam can continue to thrive with the same base it has now.

[Ser Lagsalot]

Originally posted by Guardian Dave:

Originally posted by CptKerion:

Far too much visual clutter, screws over those of us with Autism.

this is what i feared. they didnt think about people with autism spectrum issues.

Even if the thought did occur, they clearly didn't give half a ♥♥♥♥. After all, why care about a small userbase fraction when there's a pool of money that needs diving into?

That's how it's always been and always will be...

[DG | Tom Da Bomb [S] [D]]

thats not exactly how its "always" been, it is for some companies (usually corporations the most), if it gets to the point they are providing a less functional and useful product then its time for consumers to stop patronizing their business and choose another, im just surprised Steam was the 1 to say F it and F everyone we are gonna force stuff like the Whats New area, doesnt matter if it doesnt effect a majority of users cuz we can milk that 10-20% it does take advantage of

if there was an option to disable the Whats New section it wouldnt be advertisments, or there still would be a few but since they arent forced they are volunatary info ppl can get, but thats not how they did it, and they are obviously ignoring feedback probably waiting to see if it negatively impacts user numbers and store sales numbers enough to make them need to provide some basic options (and thats not how Valve as a more private company usually operated, at least till around 2012-2015 or it feels like thats when things changed to me)

i mean it would literally take less than a dozen lines of code to add a simple 0 / 1 on off switch for the Whats New section, but instead they put more work into it making a calculation for the Show Less or More options we dont have much other choice at this point than to stop buying games from steam, if its enough users they will act or if its not then it stays

[honx]

steam is BLOATWARE now.