Please include a legacy library

[Maggie]

The library should really include a legacy mode for people who don't want an updated library. The biggest change I see is basically shoving everything aside to put community content on a library page as well as pasting a large art banner you have to scroll past to see things. I really think if something isn't broken don't fix it and this is the kind of update we don't really need since it doesn't add functionality and it makes a library page less streamlined. Aside from complaints it still works (except how the library crashes sometimes with the new format).

[Ghostman]

Absolute nonsense.

Originally posted by Arctictrix:

"The library should really include a legacy mode for people who don't want an updated library."

No.

Originally posted by Arctictrix:

"The biggest change I see is basically shoving everything aside to put community content on a library page"

You can disable community content in the settings.

Originally posted by Arctictrix:

"as well as pasting a large art banner you have to scroll past to see things."

It is rather large but I don't believe that's the problem here, the problem is the arrangement of elements below it. "Activity" section should be removed and community section header should be removed also if you disabled it. The other elements like achievements shouldn't be thrown to the side and stacked as they currently are.

Originally posted by Arctictrix:

"I really think if something isn't broken don't fix it"

Stop living in the stone age and being afraid of change. Sometimes change is for the better and you need to accept it.

Originally posted by Arctictrix:

"and this is the kind of update we don't really need"

The old Library UI was outdated garbage which was neglected for many years and was missing features which you would expect to be within the Library UI. It was so bad that some guy made his own software called Depressurizer just to have some of the required functionality. I also made similar unreleased software because I was also annoyed with the lack of basic library features.

Originally posted by Arctictrix:

"it doesn't add functionality"

Open your damn eyes... it has added so much functionality.
Now we can search games by tags/features.
You can now see all your unplayed games easily.
You can now organise your games by metacritic scores etc.
Games now show if they are singleplayer/multiplayer/splitscreen etc. in the game page in your library, which previously IT DID NOT and you would have to check the store page or make your own tool.

Originally posted by Arctictrix:

"it makes a library page less streamlined"

The previous library page was just a column list on the left.
The new UI does exactly the same thing it just also adds a grid view alongside it.
IT DOESN'T REMOVE ANYTHING.... ONLY ADDS.
Also they didn't just rearrange the hardcoded elements, they completely overhauled it and now the entire library (left list included) runs as a webpage. This allows for more flexibility and paves the way for more customization with skins in the future as previously they were very limited.
Things can only get better.

Originally posted by Arctictrix:

"(except how the library crashes sometimes with the new format)."

One of the only things you said which can be taken as useful feedback, the rest is mostly nonsense as said in my opening line.

[Maggie]

You are literally arguing for less options on the steam store while I'm asking for the additional feature of legacy mode. YOU do not need to use it if you don't like it so don't be a troll.

Originally posted by Elevenones:

Absolute nonsense.
You can disable community content in the settings.

Where? I don't have this option in my settings and I've looked under every setting in my steam options but it's not there and the only settings are low bandwith mode, low performance, or element size. There isn't anything under interface or account settings or security either.

Originally posted by Elevenones:

Stop living in the stone age and being afraiictrix]"I really think if something isn't broked of change. Sometimes change is for the better and you need to accept it.

Not wanting a bloated ui and previously not having a bloated ui which did the same function isn't "living in the stone age". I don't want a downgrade to how I use my library.

Originally posted by Elevenones:

The old Library UI was outdated garbage which was neglected for many years and was missing features which you would expect to be within the Library UI.

What features it always worked fine for everything I ever needed?

Originally posted by Elevenones:

Open your damn eyes... it has added so much functionality.
Now we can search games by tags/features.
You can now see all your unplayed games easily.
You can now organise your games by metacritic scores etc.

So add these features to the old library without changing the whole thing? I don't give a crap about meta critic scores so again it's not helping me or anyone who doesn't use meta critic. If people want a metacritic option you can probably download a steam skin that someone added that to but either way they could just keep legacy in as a steam skin but with all the new features.

Originally posted by Elevenones:

The previous library page was just a column list on the left.
The new UI does exactly the same thing it just also adds a grid view alongside it.
IT DOESN'T REMOVE ANYTHING.... ONLY ADDS.

Yeah even if you get away with it in school papers, spacing out steam elements is not adding its just making me scroll around the page more to do the same thing I could have before.

[Ghostman]

Not even gonna reply to most of what you wrote because it's more nonsense.
However, I'm in a fairly good mood so I will invest a few minutes to educate you.
Consider this my final reply on this matter.

Originally posted by Arctictrix:

Where? I don't have this option in my settings and I've looked under every setting in my steam options but it's not there and the only settings are low bandwith mode, low performance, or element size. There isn't anything under interface or account settings or security either.

If you actually read what "Low Bandwith Mode" does (it says it below the option itself)
"Reduces bandwith use by disabling features like auto-load of community content".
AKA THIS DISABLES COMMUNITY CONTENT

The change wasn't just

Originally posted by Arctictrix:

"spacing out steam elements"

as you put it, if you think that then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. If you did then you would know they moved from using the limited and outdated VGUI system to using CEF which is a major upgrade and allows more flexibility and easier customisation (You can even edit the entire layout of the Library UI yourself via some hacky methods, but I wouldn't recommend this until steam allows CSS files to be used within skins).

Just because you don't know how to use something properly, doesn't mean that it sucks or is lacking in features. The problem is with you.

[Mickel83]

Originally posted by Arctictrix:

The biggest change I see is basically shoving everything aside to put community content on a library page as well as pasting a large art banner you have to scroll past to see things.

I hate how they put the workshop over there where you need to scroll down, and can see only one mod.

It takes away form what there trying to do with the update

I don't see the rest on the side, as that big of a deal. Because they were really small things you barely clicked.

[EMO GANGSTER]

libraries fine they just need to fix a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ remote play client it doesnt for me now after last update

[Mickel83]

Originally posted by EMO GANGSTER:

libraries fine they just need to fix a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ remote play client it doesnt for me now after last update

the Workshop, not fine

[Maggie]

Originally posted by Elevenones:

Not even gonna reply to most of what you wrote disabling features like auto-load of community content".
AKA THIS DISABLES COMMUNITY CONTENT

No, this leaves a gaping wound in the library page that still says community content and is empty while actual game related stuff is still shoved down and to the left.

Originally posted by Elevenones:

If you did then you would know they moved from using the limited and outdated VGUI system to using CEF which is a major upgrade and allows more flexibility and easier customisation (You can even edit the entire layout of the Library UI yourself via some hacky methods, but I wouldn't recommend this until steam allows CSS files to be used within skins).

It's not more flexible nor a major upgrade it's just the same buttons from the old library and they all go the same places but they are moved around and spaced apart. You even say there's ways to change it but it doesn't work well so they should clearly leave in a legacy mode. They still have legacy menus in source games when you enable them and they can still offer features that some games don't offer in their "modern" server browsers. This isn't different from the source situation and again YOU don't have to use but a lot of people would prefer a legacy library.

[Lepehn]

You can size up or down the library homepage by going to Steam> Settings> Library and the size settings.

[Percles]

I don't like the layout of the new library, but what bothers me most is the huge "What's New..." bar for games I haven't even installed. That's just annoying and completely confusing!

[Lepehn]

Yeah, as far as I know they haven't added a way to hide Recent Games, or Whats New.

[-Dare Devil/x/]

-I quite like it. I do not think they should support a legacy mode though. With the new chat system; they rolled out more features and configurations over the past six months. I'm optimistic we will see further tweaks and improvements as time goes on for the new library as well.

[Lepehn]

My only issues are me having to remove free-to-play games and unused never installed software like 3D Mark by going to my account details and license keys. The ability to scale down the library homepage is good so the whats new and recent games doesn't fill up a 1920x1080 monitor.

[-Dare Devil/x/]

Originally posted by Limbo:

My only issues are me having to remove free-to-play games and unused never installed software like 3D Mark by going to my account details and license keys. The ability to scale down the library homepage is good so the whats new and recent games doesn't fill up a 1920x1080 monitor.

-I believe they were always tied in the background (based on some install for a game or whatnot); so its nice to actually see what is linked to your Steam account. This will allow us one-time clean up to really optimize your account.

[Maggie]

Originally posted by Limbo:

My only issues are me having to remove free-to-play games and unused never installed software like 3D Mark by going to my account details and license keys. The ability to scale down the library homepage is good so the whats new and recent games doesn't fill up a 1920x1080 monitor.

I had the same issue where I had to remove 149 products manually that were not in my library before because they were old or shutdown mmos or free stuff I used once and got rid of.

[Lepehn]

Yes they were always connected to your account since you "Purchased" them. They are in your account license keys with [Complementary] instead of purchase or retail. You can remove them from the account until you re-download the game or software. If you hide the game from the library list then its still connected to your account, just hidden from the view in library.