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Steam Big Picture constant input with Logitech G29 pedals
ISSUE
Steam Big Picture incorrectly assumes axis resting state of G29 pedals resulting in constant input in Big Picture menu (usually manifests as an infinite downward scrolling).

OS
Windows 10

STEPS

-Plug in G29 racing wheel and pedals (or similar product with a max axis resting state pedal)
-Select BIG PICTURE from the main menu
-Press and release a pedal on the G29 (or similar)

RESULTS
Constant Input causes Big Picture mode to scroll downward without input. After bottom of page is reached scrolling noise continues to generate and all further inputs are hampered by the constant input.

EXPECTED
Big picture should stop scrolling when pedal is released.
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Balderick Apr 9, 2019 @ 7:10am 

As a workaround, try switching off Xbox or PS4 configs for your device in Big Picture > Settings > Controller Settings so that global Big Picture config is not trying to scroll using any pedals, if you haven't already. Means you need to use KB and mouse or use controller of different type to wheel and pedals

Or

Just launch games on desktop using large mode and remove Big Picture bugs from the equation!.



Have not been able to use Big Picture global config to use Thrustmaster buttons for Big Picture navigation for more than a year. Need to double check on that actually! Am in habit of just using controller or KB + m for Big Picture navigation due too old bugs. In fact I in habit of using large mode to launch games without Big Picture because of long standing bugs with Big Picture! Lol

Steering wheels are Steam Input second class citizens. Not many Steam users use wheel and pedals so are low on priority list, I'm afraid.

Still fully functional in games if Steam Input is configured appropriately.


Sharing a workaround may help others, until Valve fix bug and they can only do that if they can reproduce. I know they struggle to reproduce many issues/bugs I and others have been reporting with steering wheels for years now.
Last edited by Balderick; Apr 9, 2019 @ 7:42am
austinp_valve Apr 10, 2019 @ 5:56pm 
We don't by default apply any controls to the G29 wheel. If you don't want the wheel to interact w/ Steam Input you can go to Controller Settings->Define Layout->Clear and exit. If you want to have Steam Input interact with the device but fix the input issue go to Settings-Base Configuration-> Big picture and unbind whatever gamepad input the pedal is bound to. If the pedal is mixed with another input that you need convert the binding to DPad and then bind the two directions you do need.
Balderick Apr 10, 2019 @ 6:49pm 
Originally posted by austinp:
We don't by default apply any controls to the G29 wheel.

Thanks for confirming that is expected behaviour, for wheels in general. I too am seeing unexpected behaviour with axis and wrong mappings with current Steam client beta and stable Steam client. Having trouble getting games to use wheel and pedals like expected. Thanks for tips on how to switch Big Picture global config

In the past have found no layout being mapped as being un expected behaviour because it broke steam o0verlays and Big picture navigation! lol Mapping a layout (without pedal axis being involved - just buttons on wheel base and paddle shifters) helped with getting wheel and pedals working with Big Picture so that steam overlay and game ui could be navigated using buttons on wheel, Just left the joystick mappings completely blank and did not map any pedal axis to controller layout bindings. Doing that will save making a custom Big Picture global config and achieve the same thing. Six and two threes. Nice to have a choice.

When using Steam stable client, m + KB, Shield Controller (Xbox type controller), Thrustmaster T500 RS wheel and pedals (PS3 type controller) with fully updated win 10 pro what I see is

https://youtu.be/RlKYC1S-B38

For me it was having no layout assigned to wheel base buttons that prevented use of wheel base buttons for use in Big Picture by letting global config be applied like expected. Assigning layout fixes.

Dpad and left stick down need tweaking in global desktop and big picture configs. Scrolling is not working like expected in global configs with any controller I use. Struggle to manually configure the button press and release times for getting a proper scrolling effect.

With global desktop config in some windows apps there is double input as something is mapping triggers on Xbox controller to scroll when Steam Input is applying mouse clicks.


I keep forgetting to save and keep loosing my custom Steam Input configs so am in habit of using mouse to use for dragging scroll bar at side of window instead of using broken scroll.

Can't manage saved layouts for controllers like expected, you can see Steam Input referring to my older saved layout when it "renames" RS T500 to T500 RS in the video. Maybe i saved layout as different type of controller.

Additional to defining layout, tweaking global configs and windows settings to fix scroll Steam Input still needs configured for game. Ànd device prioritization is a problem.

There are a few more related issues which I'll try and open new threads for.

EDIT: Was reproducing in stable what i was seeing in beta client. After opting out and back into Steam client beta have got everything working like expected, in fact better than expecetd. Facepalmed when i got scroll working in desktop config and used the new "Hide" feature to "prioriytise" input device. Even have working PS3 controller prompts for first time ever with Thrustmaster buttons too lol. Been a lot of updates today.
Last edited by Balderick; Apr 11, 2019 @ 9:52am
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