TUME aftermath discussion

[BIG GAY IDIOT]

I guess this would be a decent place to talk about what's happened since 2017 where anyone can join in versus private DMs, so I'll just start after the Cocyx and Darth trans drama and first group locking:

TUME started to fall off after a bunch of people left from these events and Cheese gave the group ownership back to Kptn Howdy, which is what lead to the final moderation team being Kptn as owner and Snippy, Astro, and Fanshi as mods if I remember correctly.

It seems like other splinter groups such as The Meme Union and Village of Posters also died out in 2017/2018, so really the only activity left was a few ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in TUME every couple months from Kamyarm, me, DudewingTodd/Chatian, Tacomancer, and a couple other ogs.

Some time later, Absolute Contempt and Owen deleted their steam accounts (maybe 2018/2019) and this erased all of their post histories. Bones left all of the groups in late 2017 or early 2018. GHG/Zach seems to have unfriended/blocked everyone in 2018, so he hasn't been active since either. Also, Snippy came out as trans after some indeterminate amount of time, which now brings us pretty close to the current day.

There was an uptick in TUME activity in early 2022, but some more drama started brewing when Astro began abusing janny privileges and messing with new posts and other threads such as deleting the old sin confession discussion ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Something awakened Snippy after all these years, and she decided that the entire group needed to be nuked, so she started mass deleting all content and banning all members. Kptn found out about this and was pretty pissed so he put a stop to it and tried to restore some old threads, but apparently Snippy had a conversation with him and convinced him to give her the keys to finish the job. Now this brings us to the current day, with nothing left of TUME except Foster's final thread.

Personally, I think it was a bit selfish for Snippy to nuke the whole group just to "move on" - I would have left TUME open for old friends to come chat occasionally or at least have it archived, but that's just me. I took steps to preserve other groups which I have ownership of such as The Meme Union so that they can still be used in the future.

[Goblin]

Първоначално публикувано от Foster:

Първоначално публикувано от Hooty:

I used to by Gold Hearted Goat/Pie/Zach. I don't plan on sticking around for long since I feel as if I'm no longer compatible with these groups. I have been gone for 5 years, and I want to keep it that way. The amount of negativity came from these groups every day until I left. It was unbearable and insufferable. I lost a best friend of 7 years at the time to these groups. The lack of empathy hurt significantly, and there are people I sorely miss that no longer interact with anyone from the groups.

I was diagnosed with PTSD, ADD, Depression, and Anxiety. Those meltdowns I had in the past were PTSD. It's why my reactions were so extreme. And people kept on hitting that nest as if it was a game as if it was funny. That shit hurt, man, the way I had to always blame myself, that it was my fault, God forbid if I dared defend myself and wasn't a rug for people.

I wish I could say I remember the positives, but for the most part, I really don't. I left 5 years ago. I am 21 years old and in college. I'm a very different person now, with a much better set of beliefs than I had at 16-17, making the world so small and painful. I can't forgive some people for what they did, and I don't feel bad for that. I'm not obligated to forgive anyone.

When I first joined, I was a depressed 15-year-old looking for friends, something to be a part of. And I genuinely loved those first couple of months. I felt amazing. It was addicting. It was fun being young and dumb and just nerding out over shit. By the time I was done, I was so distant from reality. My political views were so extreme and made no sense because this place because I was constantly conflicted. The way people would continuously challenge and argue with each other did nothing to help how I felt. Or how I interacted with people. It really didn't help people say, "I wish we had the old Gold back" as if it was wrong for me to change as a person.

I'm doing much better now. I wish these groups could have been a part of that journey. But that isn't the idealistic world we live in. I don't ever regret leaving. I am told that was the smartest thing I could have done. My profile was raided when I left. People made fun of my dead mother and me via steam groups/messages even after this. That I wouldn't be their punching bag any longer. Some of the people in the groups are genuinely awful.

I found pride in my sensitivity. I shed the "tough skin" mindset and was really able to connect with some beautiful people in life that I am so grateful to have met. Just people who excepted me for who I was. Many of the stories I tell of these groups are horror stories because it really did feel like that to me. The fact people flipped out on me when I was concerned about my own privacy was baffling to me.

I'm not sure how to end this. Maybe I'll stick around if I like the vibe. I just feel a lot more chill then I used to be. though it feels as if I outgrew the humor.

(I probably won't. I hate remembering my past self. I did some really embarrassing shit. Though I was just expressing ideas from a more sympathetic viewpoint, it still makes me cringe.)

Now you're someone I wasn't expecting to see here.

Pretty much everything targeted at you at nearly all times of the group and in pretty much every splinter was just starkly messed up, looking back on it so many of the dramas of the groups centered around you and it wasn't because you actually did anything wrong it was purely because people were basically using you as a punching bag or a sort of morality object but didn't want to view you as your own person for whatever bizarre and gross reasons they had.

My part in it with getting angry and lashing out at you and others for those times where you did stuff I didn't like, for sort of trying to shape the direction you were heading in even if I didn't necessarily have ill intent with it and thought I was "helping", just the generally manipulative garbage I threw your way at any point, I'm deeply remorseful over all of it and as I've said before I don't expect you to truly forgive me for any of it.

I don't feel you ever did anything that was actually worth any kind of backlash or disdain, and I genuinely can't remember anything really negative that I associate with you or your actions, which makes it ever worse that you were in return given almost nothing but negativity practically from the outset.
Usually I have something I can look back on and go "that was kind of messed up for them to do, I might bring that up so we can settle accounts" and crap like that, but all the negativity I can remember with you was me bringing YOU down.

Only defense I give for myself is that I did view you as a good friend, which is why towards the end when you cut me out along with pretty much everyone else I didn't go hunting you down or questioning deeply or anything because by that point I was starting to realize what I was actually doing and had done to people and I figured it was for the best.

Hell, I'm glad you cut the group out because I fully agree, it was the smartest thing you could have done for yourself and that goes for anyone else who did it.
A lot of people took stuff like that as holding grudges but I don't think I ever really saw it the same way, after a certain point it's hard to miss the giant gaping septic wound in your mental and emotional health that could begin the healing process only once you dropped the group.
Given how emotionally receptive you were I cannot imagine how much damage being in there actually did to you, and it's genuinely revolting to consider since everyone was more than well aware of that part of you.

It's good to know that you've ended up doing some great stuff for yourself in contrast with how much you were being weighed down.
Good luck with your career and your life ahead of you.

Първоначално публикувано от Hooty:

All I can say is thank fuck TUME got necked.

Amen.

https://youtu.be/GNrzbz6z9HQ

Първоначално публикувано от Cipherpasta:

damn i wonder how confused the 55 other people in this random ass group are

They're probably not even looking at the group anymore, or if they are I doubt they're looking at the discussions page since I imagine they just want epic gamer copypastas.

I only remember one incident you lashed out at me. And that was over something so stupid and it didn't even matter. I remember you going out of your way to defend me multiple times. And I appreciate that, and I still remember those times. I think we were all hurting, some people went to far though. I was indiscriminate with who I cut out, it got so bad I convinced myself I needed to just well, refresh myself. Did I wonder of wonders despite the lonely couple of months of just being a social outcast.

The groups taught me to shut up, not share what I thought. Be terrified to share anything I wanted to say, or if I did, apologize for it (I still do it to this day.) It was very scathing and unforgiving. It didn't help my own standards to myself was harsh, put on an image of being "innocent" and a "do gooder" (That has vastly changed). I remember gas lighting myself constantly that being made fun of constantly at my own expense was "funny". (I remember a horrid sexual fan fiction that was made between me and darth by some weirdo. Even weirder considering the facts we were both minors at the time, and we never had an intimate connection.)

I do hold grudges still, though those ones I see as valid. I won't name the users because I don't dare to give them attention. I pity them now.

Първоначално публикувано от Sigma Male:

Първоначално публикувано от Hooty:

All I can say is thank fuck TUME got necked.

You don't have any good memories of the deka's fuckboy or cards against humanity stuff? At least if I said anything about having the "old Gold" back, it wasn't meant to devalue your growth as a person, but it was more that I missed your silly posts and over the top reactions that made you the spirit of the group. Of course, most of us were immature and did things that were not very well thought out which ended up hurting other people, but I don't think any of the original group members really wanted to hurt each other. I know a bunch of other people who joined later were toxic and had malicious intent though, so it's good that you cut them out of your life.

I wish I could find the words to explain how I feel about this, but they have been robbed from me it seems. The groups were overall negative for me and I can't remember to much positives except for the beginning. Where it just felt great to be apart of something so ridicously stupid and humorous. And was just able to shoot the shit with people. I genuinely loved Tume at the beginning. What it became still hurts. That "split" still makes me confused to this day with how bad that escalated. I have no clue why people were upset at me for wanting privacy. How fucking dare I get offended and terrified when someone says they are going to visit me after they sent me shock videos

[BIG GAY IDIOT]

Първоначално публикувано от Dr Mad:

I like turtles. Also hello zach

https://youtu.be/WNHiCdwWaOA

[Mother of Exiles]

I think the split confused just about everyone in some way, it was a mass breakdown in communication that just went shittier and shittier so no one really knew any of the actual problems the others had, and people were just arguing with eachother.

I didn't even understand what happened until when I was deleting the events since Mad had deleted part of the forums right after I got mod from them so I was only able to read part of it before it was dead.

The only parts of the forums that stood the test of time until I finally put it down were the events that told most of the blanks

[Mother of Exiles]

Oh wow Steam has a different tier for owner deleted threads? Vs officer/mod deleted threads they can still be viewed by me, this is new.

I think I genuinely just have to take the two posts from foster and Captain, then move them into a copy of gd so I can remove the first forum entirely
Also since all old, I'm guessing someone deleted them at some point beforehand between when Mad did it and now when I've done it.

[Mother of Exiles]

Първоначално публикувано от Foster:

Първоначално публикувано от Punished:

I'm perhaps a bit too glad that It wasn't out of anger or anything of that sort. I still have a valentines day card you drew me on a USB from when I backed up my files. It had a bloody knife and a threat on it. Very cute!

Actually do you have any idea at what point in the group's history I sent that?
If it was before or after the big explosive hate rant I had at you, that'd pretty easily answer for you whether I was just doing it for craps and giggles or out of actual vitriol.

If this solves it, for some reason yours was one of the few posts left in 2017 on Valentine's day where you "Returned" and threatened us all with death

[BIG GAY IDIOT]

Първоначално публикувано от Celine the Light:

Oh wow Steam has a different tier for owner deleted threads? Vs officer/mod deleted threads they can still be viewed by me, this is new.

I think I genuinely just have to take the two posts from foster and Captain, then move them into a copy of gd so I can remove the first forum entirely
Also since all old, I'm guessing someone deleted them at some point beforehand between when Mad did it and now when I've done it.

"Fuck you Snippy this is where I'll shitpost now"

[Mother of Exiles]

Първоначално публикувано от Sigma Male:

"Fuck you Snippy this is where I'll shitpost now"

Yeah I think i saved random shit there as an owner forum

[BIG GAY IDIOT]

Първоначално публикувано от Celine the Light:

Първоначално публикувано от Sigma Male:

"Fuck you Snippy this is where I'll shitpost now"

Yeah I think i saved random shit there as an owner forum

Of course that is the last remaining forum

[Mother of Exiles]

Първоначално публикувано от Sigma Male:

Първоначално публикувано от Celine the Light:

Yeah I think i saved random shit there as an owner forum

Of course that is the last remaining forum :hillary:

Oh no that one is gone

I just made an entirely new forum and translated the other two threads to it

[Goblin]

I will say you can look at your past post history + replies under a tab in activity

[Dr Mad]

Първоначално публикувано от Hooty:

I genuinely loved Tume at the beginning.

Thing is TUME when we were like a dozen people was hilarious. When we had the OG members I had a good time
It very quickly devolved though. Turned into a friend joke into a toxic landfill overnight

[JakobatHeart]

Първоначално публикувано от Dr Mad:

Първоначално публикувано от Hooty:

I genuinely loved Tume at the beginning.

Thing is TUME when we were like a dozen people was hilarious. When we had the OG members I had a good time
It very quickly devolved though. Turned into a friend joke into a toxic landfill overnight

The landfill that was once your kingdom, Dr. Beelzebub Mad. That is your full name. I've figured out why it was so toxic! A prince of hell was reigning over it! It all makes sense now!

[Some idiot with a stupid name]

lol lmao

[BIG GAY IDIOT]

https://youtu.be/f4uSzrsOQr8

[Foster]

https://youtu.be/BRgMfl5ZnrU