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The seven deadly sins are connected
So one time if i'm correct i heard god tell me that the seven deadly sins are connected like a chain like how one leads to another like gluttony can lead to sloth, envy can lead to wrath and so on and so on

also i know that "the seven deadly sins" is not really mentioned in the bible however all sin that is in this world is deadly and god hates sin so sin can be connected in some way but let me see what you guys think
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Could they all be connected i'd say yes, but for context, All sins are "Deadly".

Now there are certain sins that are detestable to God.

https://www.gotquestions.org/seven-deadly-sins.html
Mr_C_ Apr 30 @ 5:35pm 
Proverbs 6:16-19 (KJV)

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

(AMPC)

16 These six things the Lord hates, indeed, seven are an abomination to Him:
17 A proud look {the spirit that makes one overestimate himself and underestimate others}, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that manufactures wicked thoughts and plans, feet that are swift in running to evil,
19 A false witness who breathes out lies {even under oath}, and he who sows discord among his brethren.
From Wikipedia:
The seven deadly sins (also known as the capital vices or cardinal sins) function as a grouping of major vices within the teachings of Christianity. According to the standard list, the seven deadly sins according to the Catholic Church are pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth.

In Catholicism, the classification of deadly sins into a group of seven originated with Tertullian, and continued with Evagrius Ponticus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins

The "seven deadly sins" is a man-made construct and totally not in line with what God's Word says that God hates (hence the comparison with the passage in Proverbs).
Originally posted by CrEaTiVe ✞ Jesus Saves ✞:
Could they all be connected i'd say yes, but for context, All sins are "Deadly".

Now there are certain sins that are detestable to God.

https://www.gotquestions.org/seven-deadly-sins.html
yes you're right all sins are deadly
Originally posted by Mr_C_:
Proverbs 6:16-19 (KJV)

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

(AMPC)

16 These six things the Lord hates, indeed, seven are an abomination to Him:
17 A proud look {the spirit that makes one overestimate himself and underestimate others}, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 A heart that manufactures wicked thoughts and plans, feet that are swift in running to evil,
19 A false witness who breathes out lies {even under oath}, and he who sows discord among his brethren.
From Wikipedia:
The seven deadly sins (also known as the capital vices or cardinal sins) function as a grouping of major vices within the teachings of Christianity. According to the standard list, the seven deadly sins according to the Catholic Church are pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony, and sloth.

In Catholicism, the classification of deadly sins into a group of seven originated with Tertullian, and continued with Evagrius Ponticus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins

The "seven deadly sins" is a man-made construct and totally not in line with what God's Word says that God hates (hence the comparison with the passage in Proverbs).
yes you're right but all sins are deadly (i should have put that in the post) however god does hate all sin, so what it could be is that all sin is connected in some way like that
Mr_C_ Apr 30 @ 5:42pm 
Having said all that, sin is like addiction and can lead to a downward spiral into more and "worse" sins (relatively speaking)--envy can lead to theft or rape, as a glaring example.
Originally posted by Mr_C_:
Having said all that, sin is like addiction and can lead to a downward spiral into more and "worse" sins (relatively speaking)--envy can lead to theft or rape, as a glaring example.
You're right envy can lead to those things like how wrath can lead to murder and so much more
I could try to put more examples in the post if that's good
Originally posted by CrEaTiVe ✞ Jesus Saves ✞:
Could they all be connected i'd say yes, but for context, All sins are "Deadly".

1 John 5:16-17:
16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.
17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

1. Sin, which doesn't lead to death - Venial sins
2. Sin, which leads to death - Deadly/Mortal sins

You see this concept is biblical.

Only the Church structured the 7 major mortal sins into a concept, according to the Bible. It's like the concept of the Trinity - there is no word "Trinity" in the Bible, yet most Protestants believe in Triune God. Why? Because THE CONCEPT IS CLEARLY IN the Bible, even though not specifically called "Trinity", same with mortal and venial sins.
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Context is key, that is also why i put "deadly" I was talking about all sins separate us from God. Salvation sense.

Here the context is talking about a Brother and most likely a PHYSICAL Death. And the sin wasn't declared...

2. (1 John 5:16-17) Praying for a sinning brother.

If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.

a. If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin… he will ask: When we see a brother in sin, John tells us the first thing to do is to pray for that person. All too often, prayer is the last thing we do, or the smallest thing we do in regard to our brother having a difficult time.

b. And He will give him life: God promised to bless the prayer made on behalf of a brother in sin. Perhaps such prayers have special power before God because they are prayers in fulfillment of the command to love the brethren. Surely, we love each other best when we pray for each other.

c. There is sin leading to death: Because John wrote in context of a brother, it is wrong to see him meaning a sin leading to spiritual death; he probably meant a sin leading to the physical death of the believer.

i. This is a difficult concept, but we have an example of it in 1 Corinthians 11:27-30, where Paul says that among the Christians in Corinth, because of their disgraceful conduct at the Lord’s Supper, some had died (many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep). This death came not as a condemning judgment, but as a corrective judgment (But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world [1 Corinthians 11:32]).

ii. Apparently, a believer can sin to the point where God believes it is just best to bring them home, probably because they have in some way compromised their testimony so significantly that they should just come on home to God.

iii. However, it is certainly presumptuous to think this about every case of an untimely death of a believer, or to use it as an enticement to suicide for the guilt-ridden Christian. Our lives are in God’s hands, and if He sees fit to bring one of His children home, that is fine.

d. I do not say that he should pray about that: Apparently, when a Christian is being corrected in regard to a sin leading to death, there is no point in praying for his recovery or restoration — the situation is in God’s hands alone.

e. There is sin not leading to death: John takes pains to recognize that not every sin leads to death in the manner he speaks of, though all unrighteousness is sin.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/comm/guzik_david/study-guide/1-john/1-john-5.cfm
Originally posted by CrEaTiVe ✞ Jesus Saves ✞:
Here the context is talking about a Brother and most likely a PHYSICAL Death. And the sin wasn't declared...
I think this could also be a translation issue as well, because the translation of First John chapter 5, specifically verse 16 changes wildly from translation from translation. I'm looking at it in a website that lists them all and it's blowing my mind! The most glaring change is that a lot of translations have "God" in verse 16 where it normally (in my KJV) it just says "he" in the clause of "(he) shall give him life for them that sin not unto death." So, that could be part of the confusion but I don't know. Also, I really love the commentary you provided and I agree with it wholeheartedly! :steamthumbsup:
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St. Olga May 11 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by CrEaTiVe ✞ Jesus Saves ✞:
Context is key, that is also why i put "deadly" I was talking about all sins separate us from God. Salvation sense.

The Didache (1st-early 2nd century):
"Chapter 2. The Second Commandment: Grave Sin Forbidden. And the second commandment of the Teaching; You shall not commit murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not commit pederasty, you shall not commit fornication, you shall not steal, you shall not practice magic, you shall not practice witchcraft, you shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is born. You shall not covet the things of your neighbor, you shall not swear, you shall not bear false witness, you shall not speak evil, you shall bear no grudge. You shall not be double-minded nor double-tongued, for to be double-tongued is a snare of death. Your speech shall not be false, nor empty, but fulfilled by deed. You shall not be covetous, nor rapacious, nor a hypocrite, nor evil disposed, nor haughty. You shall not take evil counsel against your neighbor. You shall not hate any man; but some you shall reprove, and concerning some you shall pray, and some you shall love more than your own life."

"Grave Sin Forbidden" you will ignore this?
Mr_C_ May 11 @ 5:29am 
Originally posted by St. Olga:
Originally posted by CrEaTiVe ✞ Jesus Saves ✞:
Context is key, that is also why i put "deadly" I was talking about all sins separate us from God. Salvation sense.

The Didache (1st-early 2nd century):
"Chapter 2. The Second Commandment: Grave Sin Forbidden. And the second commandment of the Teaching; You shall not commit murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not commit pederasty, you shall not commit fornication, you shall not steal, you shall not practice magic, you shall not practice witchcraft, you shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is born. You shall not covet the things of your neighbor, you shall not swear, you shall not bear false witness, you shall not speak evil, you shall bear no grudge. You shall not be double-minded nor double-tongued, for to be double-tongued is a snare of death. Your speech shall not be false, nor empty, but fulfilled by deed. You shall not be covetous, nor rapacious, nor a hypocrite, nor evil disposed, nor haughty. You shall not take evil counsel against your neighbor. You shall not hate any man; but some you shall reprove, and concerning some you shall pray, and some you shall love more than your own life."

"Grave Sin Forbidden" you will ignore this?
Thanks for the quote, but the Didache isn't biblical canon. All we need to know is already in the Bible.
St. Olga May 11 @ 5:56am 
Originally posted by Mr_C_:
Thanks for the quote, but the Didache isn't biblical canon. All we need to know is already in the Bible.

A document written during the time of the Apostles and clearly approved by them, serving as a concise but important overview of Christian faith and practice, and sent to churches across Rome is dismissed simply because it's not part of the biblical canon? That seems illogical, especially since it was taught to the earliest Christians. And speaking of consistency. The word "Trinity" doesn’t appear in the bible even once, but you guys just say that the concept is there and i completely agree with that, but the same principle should apply to other teachings of the Church. Teaching about grave and venial sins, which is obviously in the bible, and first Christians, Apostles and their disciples, clearly taught it.
Dario May 11 @ 7:40am 
Teaching of the Apostles are in the Bible which is inspired by The Lord and so we can trust them 100%, the rest of the writings are useful information to consider but do not have authority to bind our faith. Your claim about how "Apostles clearly taught it" is just that - your claim.
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Originally posted by BeastUSMC22:
So one time if i'm correct i heard god tell me that the seven deadly sins are connected like a chain like how one leads to another like gluttony can lead to sloth, envy can lead to wrath and so on and so on

also i know that "the seven deadly sins" is not really mentioned in the bible however all sin that is in this world is deadly and god hates sin so sin can be connected in some way but let me see what you guys think

I wonder if there's an 8th deadly sin.

One where it's made from all of the other 7 deadly sins.

Might not be the case, but it is something to think about sometimes, lol.
Originally posted by Prussia:
Originally posted by BeastUSMC22:
So one time if i'm correct i heard god tell me that the seven deadly sins are connected like a chain like how one leads to another like gluttony can lead to sloth, envy can lead to wrath and so on and so on

also i know that "the seven deadly sins" is not really mentioned in the bible however all sin that is in this world is deadly and god hates sin so sin can be connected in some way but let me see what you guys think

I wonder if there's an 8th deadly sin.

One where it's made from all of the other 7 deadly sins.

Might not be the case, but it is something to think about sometimes, lol.
Their is another thing called the 7 heavenly virtues but if we thing about it the 7 deadly sins could be like a dominion of sins if you understand what i'm saying (not like churches but like a group of sin)
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