Masturbation a sin?

[Kaiyal]

While many automatically jump to the conclusion of yes. I want to make people think about this a bit. Now it is most certainly and widely known that lust and adultery are a sin and should understandably be rejected in our lives with God's Grace. Yes if you masturbate while lusting or have lustful imaginations during masturbation you are sinning but the act itself is what im questioning. As nowhere in the bible is masturbation adressed which begs the question, is it evil? My conclusion is that it isn't part of God's plan for sex but also doesnt seem to be evil in and of itself. It just isn't necessarily healthy and can become a habit and can hinder abstinance if not handled with self control. Whats your guyses stance on the issue im curious.

[Kaiyal]

God can take away addiction go to Him :D

[s o j o u r n e r]

Let us pray for the brethren. That we may keep our vessels in purity and holiness. To the praise of God eternal. And in everything that His will be done.

[Legion]

I struggle with this sin as well. It feels like it's impossible to overcome sometimes and I feel worthless and like I'm not saved. I know the Lord can take it all away but I just keep failing.



In regards to the OP I do believe mastubation is a sin by itself however between a husband and wife in the marriage bed I'm not sure that it is.

Sex outside of marriage is wrong no matter what the action is, thats one of the reasons why God created marriage, so that we can have a way to satisfy our sexual desires in a way that isnt sinful.

Sex between a Husband and Wife is not sinful and it's actually good for the ralationship between them, if they choose to mastubate during sexual intercourse then I don't see why that would be sin.

At the end of the day all you can do is pray and seek guidance from God. If you have doubts about it being a sin or not then do not do it.

The only way to satisfy sexual desires in a good non sinful way is to do it with your spouse, whether that involves masturbation with your spouse is up to the both of you and to God.

[MGGAR:A I Dr. Robo Jesus P.hD]

Yup... Don't do it lad

[TheDiBZ]

That's the nail in the coffin, I'm definitely going to hell now.

[rct]

masturbate all you want my dude

[Mr_C_]

TB původně napsal:

masturbate all you want my dude

This doesn't add anything to the conversation. Perhaps if you explain why you believe someone should masturbate all he/she wants - that would be substantial.

[Mr_C_]

MikeHunt původně napsal:

Don't listen to these pharisees, masterbation is NOT a sin, it's unclean practice... just like smoking or drinking. You should still try to get rid of that habit or at least reduce it because it can be harmful (becomes addictive) esp. if you watch porn.

In the interests of having a potentially edifying conversation about this, I will leave this here.

Otherwise, scroll back and see why it's sin, and then come back and tell us why you believe it is NOT sin.

[Kaiyal]

. Ofc, masterbation is a selfish act and can lead to addiction but sometimes it's simply impossible to resist, especially when you're under heavy stress. [/quote]
Thats when you rely more on God and not yourself, im slowely but surely getting better at fighting this battle, and God is the reason.

[Mr_C_]

MikeHunt původně napsal:

I never said it's NOT wrong... All i'm saying is that God will not treat masterbation in the same manner as something far more serious like adultery for example. For starters, masterbation is not even mentioned in the Bible lol

So, if something is wrong, God won't punish it? "Something is wrong" is another way of saying "it's sin". It's not truly in the act, but in the heart - you ARE committing adultery in your heart, and Jesus told us that it's the same thing as committing a physical act of adultery (Matt. 5:27-28). The physical act of adultery is a sin, so the intention in the heart of committing a physical act of adultery is also a sin.

"But what about hentai (or whatever other sex-related images)?" That would be the next question, I guess. I would say it's the same; if the drawn image were a live person, that would be adultery - drawn or not. It's still a "person" you have the intent in your heart of having sex with.

Are you seeing the pattern? THE INTENT OF THE HEART.

MikeHunt původně napsal:

Onan wasn't punished for spilling the seed on the ground alone, he refused to impregnate that woman so he can get the inheritance, and THAT's what was evil in God's eyes, not the mere act of "spilling the seed" lol. Please educate yourselves you can even find it on wikipedia

Thank you for sharing; I already knew that about Onan. It's called "levirate marriage", where the issue from Tamar - who Onan didn't impregnate - would have carried on from the first husband Er, cutting Onan's children with any other wife out of the picture as far as Er's inheritance is concerned (see Genesis 38:1-11 for the full story). That's still no excuse; see my answer above.

MikeHunt původně napsal:

And one more thing... take me for example. I was born ugly and stupid (my iq is 43) so i will die a virgin that's fo sure. What am i supposed to do when i feel the surge of sexual hormons lol? Don't forget that God is the one who programmed us to feel sexual excitement from time to time. Ofc, masterbation is a selfish act and can lead to addiction but sometimes it's simply impossible to resist, especially when you're under heavy stress.

I'm sorry to hear about your issues, but that's not an excuse either. If you know right from wrong - sin from not sin, and it's apparent that you do - then you are held accountable. If a court of law in the US would hold you accountable if you broke the law (and I'm pretty sure it would), then God will surely hold you accountable if you did wrong as well.

God created those desires, but Satan twists them and perverts them to draw us away from God. God's intention is that those desires will be satisfied by a proper mate of the opposite gender.

To put it in a slightly different way, just because God gave you certain desires and you're slightly challenged is no excuse. Sin is still sin, and wrong is still wrong.

You may disagree with me, of course. That's your right. But thanks for clarifying your position.

[Kosher Pork ✞ Jesus Saves ✞]

It is not explicitley named or singled out in Scripture as a sin, but it is an incredibly addicting activity. More than that, it can actually have a negative impact on your quality of life and service by numbing your dopamine receptors and pulling you into activities that are blatantly sinful such as pornography due to your brain craving a stronger hit. After dealing with an addiction to it for over 7 years and using every possible excuse/technically to let myself indulge in it, I have to give a blunt "Yes."

Believe me, I've tried every possible excuse to justify the activity. Quitting feels horrible at first due to withdrawals in your body and brain, but the difference it has made in my mental health, prayer life, and ability to enjoy other things has made it totally worth it. Eventually, you just lose the urge or it becomes easier to ignore.

[Mr_C_]

MikeHunt původně napsal:

I agree that masturbation is wrong but what you are doing here is also wrong. You are deciding who is going to be punished, can you please let God do that ok?

Luke 18:9-14

Instead of helping me (or anyone else with the same problem who might be reading this thread) with some advices on how to overcome this unclean habit called masterbation, you are constantly trying to remind me that i'm a sinner, that God will punish me, that i'm commiting adultery even if i masterbate to my favorite 2D waifu. True Christians never judge others and never act as if they know who is going to be punished or not.

Sounds like you feel convicted about it. That's not me judging you - that's God judging you.

As for the Luke 18:9-14 reference, I never said I don't have the same problem with masturbation. I never said, "God, thank you that I'm not like him," because I AM like you. You are not "terminally unique" with your problems. If you have read other discussion threads, you would know that I agonize over this problem.

I also don't try to justify it like you're trying to do. I don't go patting people on the head, saying, "It's ok, God loves you. Nothing bad will happen to you. God will give you grace, so carry on." The Bible says, "Shall we continue in sin so that we might get more grace? Certainly not! How can we who died to sin continue to live in it?" (Romans 6:1-2)

I'm not judging you, God's Word is judging you. Stop trying to deflect your bad feelings about it onto me. I'd be a bad Christian if I didn't warn you (see Ezekiel 33:1-6).
If you want to make it all personal, make it personal with God and get on your knees and pray about it.

[Mr_C_]

GawviGet'em původně napsal:

Sooo......I have been dealing with this for awhile and then i stumbled upon this group and you guys have really encouraged me, so thank you guys so much and could i ask you guys to pray for me? :)

Sure thing!

[[JBX] Shark]

Masturbation is not a sin

[Mr_C_]

$haЯk původně napsal:

Masturbation is not a sin

Your reason(s)?