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Is it only me that think wave 2 HoE so tough?
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Nguyên văn bởi Vergil:
It’s not just you—me and every friend I play with agrees that the “normal” Wave 2 on HOE is ridiculously unbalanced.
We each have ~130 hours in the game and have beaten over 100 HOE matches. (I have 160 hours personally.)

Wave 2 Variations
From my past 100 HOE matches, Wave 2 only appears in three forms:

1. Fodder


2. Horde


3. Normal (the problem case)



Fodder Mutation

Spawns lots of Crawlers, including the tiny baby Crawler (normally only seen when Queen Crawler spawns them in boss wave).

Very easy and gives a big economic boost early on.


Horde Mutation

Almost exclusively spawns Cysts and Clots.

Includes Siren, Gorefast, Husk, Bloats, and Scrakes, but in very low threat levels.

Also very easy and boosts team economy.


Normal Wave 2 (Problem)

Spawns nearly every enemy type (except Fleshpound).

In a 6-player HOE match, you’ll get around 20 Scrakes—extremely hard to deal with right after Wave 1.

Most teams will have only Tier 1/Tier 2 weapons, often ineffective against Scrakes.

Without communication, random match teammates get overwhelmed.


Strategy for Survival

Buy shock traps or other CC weapons right after Wave 1.

Focus on weapons effective against Scrakes (no Fleshpounds in Wave 2).

One of the simplest and most reliable methods: pool dosh, let one teammate buy a Vulcan immediately after Wave 1, others grab shock traps for CC.

IMPORTANT: This is not the only viable approach—there are other effective strategies—but this one is beginner-friendly and has the highest consistency for guaranteeing survival, especially with random teammates.


Why It’s Unbalanced

Fodder and Horde: easy, great for economy.

Normal: demands specific strategy to “guarantee” survival.

Without preparation, most random matchmaking groups will fail.


Conclusion
Wave 2 on HOE should be rebalanced. The Normal variant is disproportionately harder compared to Fodder or Horde.
While I personally dislike using the Vulcan, I acknowledge that in combination with shock traps, it can practically ensure success with the right coordination.
Please note—this is not a Vulcan promotion, but an observation from experience. The point is about balance, not weapon preference.
And honestly, if you claim you’ve never lost a Normal Wave 2 with 5 randoms… you probably haven’t played enough HOE.

Exactly it, normal Wave 2 just unbalanced. If Wave 2 is Fodder and Horde, it is just steamroll. It is that normal wave spawn ungodly amount of Scrake. Play lot of HoE, wave 2 is where you need to sweat it to survive or you just fail.

Wave 3 spawn Scrake but not as often. People also get Tier 3/4 gun on wave 3 so it is breeze. Wave 4 manageable and kinda easy most of time.

Wave 5 is when Scrake and FP spawn in rapid fashion again but you are already prepare with best gun, armor and traps.

I am pretty sure normal Wave 2 just busted.
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