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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Not Big Surprise:
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You mean like a straight camp? Or what do they do or did in your neck of the woods?
that would be one such example, yes
I could call it evilness, point out bible verses, win the argument...I could also be pious about my approach and show you 2 Timothy 3 and say this is why we're like this, in full displays of sin, but I have another route. Though I did initially thought it might've been a prophecy or divine assistance that God is letting people act out their fallen ways (never mind btw). Even across time people were very evil by their nature so they've always existed in many forms around the world prior to God predicting how people would be like in the last days.

I think we're a lot like Adam and Eve from the garden of Eden in the first book of the bible, sinful nature yeah, but in what they do which is biting into forbidden fruit that they weren't suppose to access. I personally always thought there were many forbidden fruits and I think it's a process that is always happening with people. But I also think there's a different way in how it may be internalized spiritually for the person. Every man is a sinner and isn't safe from committing sins, but the one thing that the sinner has a choice in is accepting the very forbidden fruit that they have eaten. Eve was told “You will be like God…” and she bit into her forbidden fruit anyways with the idea of superseding God and being able to make her own decisions in a situation or matter, even at the cost of a potential life long paradise. (Sound familiar?)

The curse is that we would always be sinful no matter what however, I'm also inclined to believe through the tasting of forbidden fruits does something happen to people. And I'm inclined to believe that people stop being virgins by losing their virginity to this world. Revelation 14 talks about the 144,000 sealed with God as being virgins "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.". The 144,000 are elected for a special assignment of course, but it's interpreted that they aren't just literal virgins (I would believe they are also physical virgins though). "defiled with women" might mean that these 144,000 did not align themselves with worldly ideals by refusing to be corrupted by a tempting world, hence women. It's these people that remain as such and pure during the great tribulation before they receive the ultimate protection of God. So really it's a testament of will and faith that these people have for God even during the worse of times, never compromising on their virginity status.

I'm scrolling down an amazing comment section of folks talking about their experiences with conversion therapy and it honestly doesn't surprise me, in what they're saying about God, the practice, and free will in general. At its core it's people who have made a covenant with the world in some way, the same way a man and woman come together to form a covenant and either one of them stops being a virgin. And like how Eve took a bite of the forbidden fruit and truly ingrained it, with the promise of a thing that she was hoping for, it opens up a pandora's box-like for them to do the process all over again. The main takeaway being that people that are of this world will always seek the next forbidden fruit in hopes of getting what they want, even if that means losing their faith in God, losing one's true self, and clinging onto worldly ideals. The reason why the 144,000 are considered is because God wants a group of people that are not of this world, in every sense of it, because I believe he plans to do something special with them and they all have to be virgins for his glorious plan to work out.

From my understanding when it comes to conversion therapy and other help groups, they do want to help, but it cannot be helped, not ever, and not once (maybe). It makes a lot of sense why people are in support of this and as well as physical walk-in clinics or offices. It would quite mean the end of the world for these types of people if they don't have a sliver of support, and most people and experts don't have the discernment to address this so they default to the general answers of the world. I think it means these people found a forbidden fruit so tasteful and irresistible, that they would possibly fight to the ends of the earth to maintain this fruit, as we've seen with you and others. Outside of conversion therapy or possible detractors, the issues were always present in these people because clinging onto forbidden fruit will always be a bad thing in the eyes of many no matter how hard you try to justify this fruit, and bring along negative side effects. So when talking about 2 Timothy 3 again in a new context people are now practically in unison with sin, not virgins anymore, but clinging onto forbidden fruits and that could be why God is now more rejected because his will doesn't align with the allowance of sin of which man is willing to compromise on.

Sin was only one part of the equation, but what makes something a forbidden fruit is finding ways to keep it, justify it, and attempting to supersede God’s will with it. And that is why the 144k are pure compared to other men on earth because they might fall but they’re still in full resonance with God and to them a forbidden fruit has no bearing and they know better than to want to replace God with worldly ideals. All in all, God does want us to repent of our transgressions and even forbidden desires so that he remains at the center of your life and not worldly idols.
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