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There isn't a TWD map, its Withered Isle with a single new tileset. It doesn't change the map size.

Originally posted by Buster:

Originally posted by ▲△▽▼◀▷◁▶ⒷⒶ:

you are wrong.

where are your clowns then?
10 day thread and you have 0

Dude stop, you're giving the guy what they want

Don't even talk in this thread, ignore them

Originally posted by Notional ツ:

New driver works perfectly on my 5080FE. However, it does USE the gpu to its fullest now, meaning high temps and high rpm on the fans.

Already did a power test with my setup. Temperature and power is fine.

Sent link via the Watch.

5 minute timer where you just stand in your base and wait and do nothing... wow.. because i'm not running over the map to get my backpack..

You could have... looked at the achievements beforehand, if that's what drives you

i just made civilization :D

Never played one of the classic Battletoads I guess. This one got "wokealitied". yah..thats a word now. In other words..it sucks. Just like the last 1-2 Mortal Kombat games

Originally posted by brainless:

Good! Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you!

Yes! Very good! It seems you finally got what an ad hominem is!

Ok, so now that brainless has actually learned something, let's see if Gilver can still learn too!

That you have reading issues isnt exactly my problem.

Reading the thing that you wrote when you apparently meant to write something else is not a reading issue, much less on my end. Not my fault if you have trouble expressing what you actually mean...

He Painted Verso with the many burdens he was bestowed upon by Aline.

nooooop.
That post started pretty good actually but you just couldn't help yourself. You couldn't stop yourself from mixing in a bit of your own bias into what was otherwise factually correct.
He painted Verso as hiding his emotions. Why he does that is not explored in the game. Aline being the cause is your interpretation, not wrong but also not a fact and it doesn't become one just because you put it into the same sentence.

The Axons pretty much are supposed to be his childrens deepest inner feelings.

I wouldn't go so far as to say their deepest inner feelings, he draws what he sees but in a more abstract way than Aline does but still - thinking your daughter has great potential and is too shy or that your eldest had to grow up too quick and had too carry too much responsibility isn't that deep, most parents make those observations.
What the game is trying to show you is that parents (or really, Renoir primarily) know their children better than the children may realize.

Or want to realize:
Clea goes out of her way to destroy the Hauler. Presumably she needed its chroma but she could have destroyed Reacher or Visage or Sirene but she went and destroyed the one that represented her.
And presumably she could have painted over any being in the canvas to create her Nevrons but she painted over Alines representation of her.
This is the game writers adding depth to a character that is almost entirely off screen.
They are trying to tell you that Clea either hates herself or is unhappy with the way her parents perceive her.
Certainly that she's not _just_ the grumpy, distant older sister we see.

It's a shame all you got out of it was "oh yeah, she seems to like carrying burdens, it's her favorite hobby"

Aline losing herself in her Art just like her Axon despite the fact it hurts her and others

That too is not what Sirene is supposed to tell you about how Renoir thinks about his wife. It doesn't really matter for the argument but if you care maybe think about it some more, look up what a Siren is, re-watch the scene.

They are the truth packed in chaos.

Again, important distinction: They are Renoirs perspective, not necessarily "truth".

Really ? Even after i explained in detail ?
Riddle me this.

Ehh, I'll just skip over this block because I don't really understand what point you're trying to make.
You say Aline is gaining Chroma which goes entirely against the fact that she could keep fewer and fewer people alive and
"Or are you under the misconception that Renoire is anywhere near Alines level of power and she needs extreme amounts of Chroma holding him back ? Nah that would be stupid."

That's just like arguing over whether Wolverine is stronger than Batman: Completely pointless.
The game is written by artists to tell a story not a D&D campaign where characters have power levels.

And we actually do know how long the humans inside the paintings live. Why do you believe everyone was surprised hearing Verso is 100 years old and "not dead" by now regardless of the Gommage ? Why do you believe their hair turns grey like any other human in his late years ? Humans in the Canvas have the same lifespan normal humans do.

I mean - yes, the Lumerians live as long as people in the real world and brainless actually provided good evidence for that based on the expeditioner logs but your arguments are not logical.
None of the protagonists is older than 32, none of them have seen anyone older than 64, they would be surprised regardless.
And whose hair turns gray? Renoir and Verso have both been recreated at the age they were in the real world, they didn't age within the canvas at all.
Besides, gray hair means nothing - even if Gustav had gray hair (which I don't see) doesn't prove he couldn't age to 200.

Again, the fact that it took 20 years or something for the Lumierians to even realize the gomage was killing the oldest of them, that is valid proof. Well - evidence at least.

The people in the Painting are "make believes" they are not sentient they just play the part very well because as Painted Alicia said:" Those who are not dont know they are not."

Except that is not what she says...
She says "I envy them, those who can't see. Those who know not, that they are not. And those who live, blithe and free, sins forgotten and thus absolved."
But context man, you have to look at things in context!
She says this sentence,
looking at
MAELLE.
Who is the actual real world Alicia, not a Lumierian!

Painted Alicia envies Maelle because she doesn't know who she really is, living without the guilt of her mistake (causing the fire).
And yes, her words can be interpreted more generally, speaking of all who this applies to, but what she's saying is still "I envy those who are allowed to live in ignorance of who or what they are" and not "people who aren't real don't know they aren't real".
Because that would be stupid.
And wrong, because she herself is painted and does know that, so does her entire family.

This game is art (or intends to be at least) and not the instruction manual of your washing machine.

But i really love how people play a game thats literally about losing one self inside a dream and then the people still claim that dream was real.

Well, what I love is when people play a game that is meant to be open to interpretation but then don't comprehend that their interpretation isn't the only possible one.

Your logic-ing in reverse, You decide on a result (say - "the earth is flat"), then try to find proof ("look, I'm on a plane and my spirit level is even that's proof that the plane is flying on a flat surface not around a sphere"), ignore all proof to the opposite ("six-months-long polar nights? Look over there, a three-headed monkey!"), make sh*t up to fill the gaps ("umm, gravity doesn't exist, that's - uhh - that's electrostatic force fields.") and try to ridicule everyone who, very eloquently and patiently, disproves you ("hunhunhun, globetards, me big smart, big funny too")
Different topic, same strategy.
And I'm sorry to break this to you, but we can all see through it and it's not convincing.

But if you reply to anything, please answer me this:
Nevrons are created from chroma, yes?
And these Nevrons are created by the painted Clea.
Not by the real Clea, not by anyone from the "real" world, by her painted version, with Clea outside the painting.
Anything of this you disagree with?

In a similar way, Gestrals get reborn in the sacred river. Not by a painter but from chroma already in the painting.

So where is your evidence, anything that is actually in the game that can't be interpreted otherwise, that Lumierians can't produce new Lumierians through birth?
How are you so sure that Lumierians can only be created by a painter when other species in the game can come from "recycled" chroma?

Yes, maybe only Nevrons created by real Clea can be sentient and the others aren't and that makes Lumierians different.
That could be true but there is no evidence so it might also be false.
Yes, the Gestrals may be painted by Versos soul fragment - but he paints the entire canvas world so why not further Lumierians as well?

If you can't disprove this then you have to accept that the story can be interpreted otherwise.
You don't have to accept anyone elses interpretation, just that the other interpretations are no more silly than yours.


Also, how old are you? If you are under 60, I promise you will live to see a very real debate in the world over what it takes for an AI to be considered "sentient". You will experience in a much more serious context how very much non-obvious this is.