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It happens because Woke people hurl their insults at anyone who isn't Woke freely. Ever seen a Woke calling people r.cist? How about N@zi? The truth is Woke culture revolves around insulting, shaming, gas lighting, and when that doesn't work then it's censorship. The difference between you and him is that when you get insulted you can cry about it and the system comes to your rescue. When people like you go on the offensive we all have to take it. This is because Woke culture has taken over corporations and therefore creating this imbalance.

People won't view you as an enemy, even if they disagree with you, if you wouldn't be using the system as a weapon to silent your opponents. That's why you get treated like an enemy, and an imbecile.

Edit: I actually would agree with a society where people respect others, even if they disagree with them. I just don't see how Woke culture would ever allow that to exist.
Big surprise: My experience is the polar opposite: Anti-woke people see a woke conspiracy in every dissenting opinion, and because they see themselves as the victims of this so-called conspiracy, they think they can "fight back" by all means, insult everyone disagreeing with them and - in the worst case - use violence. It's usually anti-woke, not woke people who see all black and white, and who see people either as friends or enemies. In these forums on Steam I've rarely seen woke people soreading hate - it's always the anti-woke who think that their alleged victimhood justifies their aggression and hate

There's a simple ground rule: Treat others as you want to ne treated. I don't disagree that some woke people are quick to call others insulting names, but then it's your right to report them, too. I's quite telling that we can't even agree on this one ground rule. It's not "abusing a system" to remind people to be respectful, but a matter of general human decency.

The logical fallacies here involve gaslight, sidetracking, downplaying, double standards, and straight up denial. Lets see them at work if your reply

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Big surprise:

Nice use of gaslight. What's surprising? That people disagree with you? It's what a one sided culture of censorship does, it makes people intolerant of opposing views so that when they encounter them they behave as if it was a crime committed and therefore censorship is justified.

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My experience is the polar opposite: Anti-woke people see a woke conspiracy in every dissenting opinion,

This fallacy falls into denial..

While I can say that this isn't an argument about your experience with non-wokes but about censorship, Woke opinions can't be considered dissenting. By definition”dissenting” means deviating from commonly accepted beliefs or practices. Your opinions are systemically approved and enforced ones. Woke cultures rule corporations and the systems we have to use to function. You are not dissenting when you are Woke. The people opposing you are. Which is why it's your culture the one doing the censorship, not the other way around. Censorship is a function of power, and not a function of being correct or right.

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and because they see themselves as the victims of this so-called conspiracy, they think they can "fight back" by all means,

More gaslight. Labeling your opponents as conspirators is no longer effective in arguments with them. Especially when the subject being discussed is censorship. Who is the judge to determine what is and what is not a conspiracy? It also sounds as if you think a conspiracy, as a concept, is by default wrong. That's not how it works. A conspiracy could be in the right. It boils down to what is being conspired and force they are opposing. Censorship is always worth opposing. It's that simple.

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insult everyone disagreeing with them and - in the worst case - use violence.

That is factually, incorrect. You and they too, are on an anonymous board, where they can't see you in person, they can't censor you because you are Woke, and unless you are here to complain about some hacker dropping in on you, labeling online insults as violence, assuming they even occurred in the first place, is actually incorrect. This is why Woke culture is dying and it's losing its power. People are finally seeing it for what it is.

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It's usually anti-woke, not woke people who see all black and white, and who see people either as friends or enemies.

The fallacy at work here is sidetracking. How these people see you is not what is being discussed here. We are talking about censorship. I'm pretty sure that whatever they think of you it's not far away from what you think of them.




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In these forums on Steam I've rarely seen woke people soreading hate - it's always the anti-woke who think that their alleged victimhood justifies their aggression and hate

The fallacy at work here is downplaying. You downplay the enormous efforts Woke culture goes through in order to cause harm and offense to their opponents, and pretend it's the opposite of that. For example, when the Woke call somebody a racist, or any “ism,” that is a serious accusation that can't be taken any other way than an insult. So the moment this is what's happening they are already on the offense and can't possibly claim to have the moral right to proceed to censorship.

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There's a simple ground rule: Treat others as you want to ne treated.

The fallacy at work here is the double standard. Does the rule you mentioned applies when you label people “ism” for not agreeing with you? Or is that something that only works for your opponents to protect you from being offended while you, yourself, reserve the right to insult and censor at will? Double standards are a very common fallacy among the Woke and one of their main incentives for censorship.

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I don't disagree that some woke people are quick to call others insulting names,


The fallacy at work here is denial. You been denying this very thing all along. Labeling opponent's insults as violence, while claiming that what Woke culture is doing is just name calling. Censorship and labels warrant their dislike. Don't expect people to respect you if you practicing censorship.

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but then it's your right to report them, too. I's quite telling that we can't even agree on this one ground rule.

Fallacy at work here is Shaming. Standing up to censorship is the morally right position. Don't expect the people you censor to feel ashamed. You didn't teach them a moral lesson. You exercised power, which in turn validates their negative disposition towards you and your Woke culture.

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It's not "abusing a system" to remind people to be respectful, but a matter of general human decency.

Fallacy at work here is gaslight. You are not reminding them to be respectful if you get them banned. You are exercising authority over them. They don't have the same authority over you. Even if you are labeling them racist, any ism, or if you are being offensive, abusive, and disrespectful of their beliefs or persons.
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