Tired of these stupid cheaters...!

[Princess]

When will you actually DO something about the stupid <removed> that makes cheat for every <removed> game there is?? Im am so tired of playing at all since there is a cheater in almost every game with 60-0 ruin the game for everybody..... I will SURELY not buy one more game until you do something that makes it impossible to cheat.. Just look at Battlefield.. How many cheaters are there? 0.... Im playing Black Ops 2 and pretty much every day I found one stupid cheater that I reports.. And what happens..?? As usually ... nothing...!

[91340226750316541]

That' because Ghosts is a brand new very popular game. Of course there would be hackers there.

[Silicon Vampire]

Your issue is with the developers, not VAC.

Any popular P2P MP game without server admins is going to be a cheat-fest.

[Reported.]

Welcome to the real world.

Every goodie needs a baddy. Just like how every anticheat mechanism needs to be reversed, there is good vs evil etc. Its a symbiotic relationship. ying and yang, that sorta shiz.

Point being: there is always gonna be cheaters. It will never change. Its human nature. The way I see it, those cheat developers need a profit somehow. Just like how anticheat developers for Valve are kept in a job by said cheat devs.

[washu73]

mudlord lähetti viestin:

Welcome to the real world.

Every goodie needs a baddy. Just like how every anticheat mechanism needs to be reversed, there is good vs evil etc. Its a symbiotic relationship. ying and yang, that sorta shiz.

Point being: there is always gonna be cheaters. It will never change. Its human nature. The way I see it, those cheat developers need a profit somehow. Just like how anticheat developers for Valve are kept in a job by said cheat devs.

lets assume for a second that suddenly overnight there were no more cheaters, I know this improbable but bear with me.
Then Valve would probably have less overheads allowing them to make their games cheaper for the same profit, OR they would keep the programers on the payroll and their games would have more content or come out faster because there are more people working on it.

You are assuming a symbotic relationship between cheat developers & anti-cheat developers, when a parasite/host relationship is probably more accurate.

[ KARR™]

Movietajm lähetti viestin:

Just look at Battlefield.. How many cheaters are there? 0....

Can i point you towards the posts on battlelog that are asking when all the cheaters are going to be banned?

[Teclis(Loris)]

Vac is worst; i know people have use cheat for 1 year on dungeon siege never get ban, but who they selled items are been banned: i see on profile player with multiple ban from vac why let them continue to cheat game when he get 1 , 2, 3 ban or mote gj valve really anti cheat sistem

[Spawn of Totoro]

Teclis(Loris) lähetti viestin:

Vac is worst; i know people have use cheat for 1 year on dungeon siege never get ban, but who they selled items are been banned: i see on profile player with multiple ban from vac why let them continue to cheat game when he get 1 , 2, 3 ban or mote gj valve really anti cheat sistem

Ya, because cheating in a co-op game (Dungeon Siege), that isn't even VAC protected, for a year means VAC doen't work.

Those with a VAC ban are banned form a specific game. Not from gaming. That wouldn't be justifiable.

[91340226750316541]

Teclis(Loris) lähetti viestin:

Vac is worst; i know people have use cheat for 1 year on dungeon siege never get ban, but who they selled items are been banned: i see on profile player with multiple ban from vac why let them continue to cheat game when he get 1 , 2, 3 ban or mote gj valve really anti cheat sistem

Dungon Siege isn't VAC protected.....Before you trash talk, learn your facts.

[Legendary old man]

Silicon Vampire lähetti viestin:

Your issue is with the developers, not VAC.

Any popular P2P MP game without server admins is going to be a cheat-fest.

He posted the name of a cheat website in his first post which is still their and bypassed the word filter. You are slipping.


Everyone hates cheaters. They are trying to combat them sir. We all feel your pain.

[Reported.]

washu73 lähetti viestin:

You are assuming a symbotic relationship between cheat developers & anti-cheat developers, when a parasite/host relationship is probably more accurate.

No, its symbiotic. One cannot exist without the other.

[Silicon Vampire]

mudlord lähetti viestin:

washu73 lähetti viestin:

You are assuming a symbotic relationship between cheat developers & anti-cheat developers, when a parasite/host relationship is probably more accurate.

No, its symbiotic. One cannot exist without the other.

WHAT? I think we could all do without cheaters. I know I could.

I think parasitic seems much more accurate.

[Legendary old man]

It is parasitic because the host can survive without the parasite and the parasite requires the host to survive. Damn they ugly. http://www.cracked.com/article_17199_the-7-most-horrifying-parasites-planet.html

[Reported.]

Silicon Vampire lähetti viestin:

WHAT? I think we could all do without cheaters. I know I could.
I think parasitic seems much more accurate.

Yes, a completely morally sound society (non cheating) would be nice. Realistically though, it will never happen. And hating on cheaters also gets nowhere.

[Psycho-Ward]

I don't plan on buying Black Ops 2 or Ghosts, if they can't fix what they got and want us to buy more, no.
So developers and sellers are losing from me, as one who cares, but I am not just one, there are many more out there like me.
I also like stats. My stats are all messed up because of cheaters, kdr, win/loss ratio, get into games and leave so you don't keep giving the cheater kills etc. So VAC needs to work well or better. Why not ban a cheat altogether, cheats in one game - cheats in all? Ban the whole account and name, provide more id on signup... I don't know what the answer is, but it really needs to be better. As of now, wont be playing mw3 multi anymore, can't be bothered with the cheaters. Looking back, I am sorry I even bought it now and wasted so many hours on it.

[Silicon Vampire]

The developers of the game are the people you should aim that at. Valve can not change the way MP or VAC is implemented in other devs software.