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Thanks for the effort, I do appreciate it. Ill just slowly stop playing cs....
I will leave this for now, just in case, so read it later when you come back :
The reason why this happened is, you did a clean boot, and in that boot, your GPU drivers are not even loaded up or utilized. So getting that error in this case was perfectly normal. It was supposed to give you the error in that boot, because you cannot play games in that boot without the GPU being utilized as it is of course needed.
Clean boot is basically a very limited state for Windows troubleshooting, so most drivers are not even being used in that boot.
Just to explain what happened there.
Here is the deal with the VAC error as I see it so far :
I am a bit worried about you removing hardware from your PC while it was running, and if you removed the CMOS battery, then you should check your BIOS settings manually now, and also especially since you said you updated the BIOS earlier. If the PC was already running, then nothing "should" have happened to the settings, but I have to suggest you check them anyway.
Yes, I know you had the VAC error before doing this, but this might be further clouding the issue, and causing a whole new set of problems than the one you had before that was already causing the VAC error.
Go to your BIOS settings and read the manual for the motherboard. BE VERY CAREFUL here, and only change anything that you know is safe to change and that is not set correctly.
However, removing a RAM stick while the PC was running was not a good thing to do, so we can only hope for now that has not caused anything new that might be a problem for you also.
According to the specs from Steam, you seem to have them all installed as of that time :
But I can't know you do. Make sure ALL the RAM is correctly installed and seated fully and properly, with the PC turned off of course. If you don't know about static protection, be aware of it before doing anything inside a comptuer :
https://www.howtogeek.com/169994/how-to-protect-your-pcs-hardware-from-static-electricity-when-working-on-it/
You can try to reformat and do a clean install of Windows and then all device drivers if you want to, but I would say that is a bit preemptive at this point.
My guess is, you recently installed something or updated something such as the Killer Manager we keep taking about, and that is causing your error, but I could be wrong.
It might also have to do with your internet connection and the hardware you use for that connection. I was going to get into that next, if needed, but we did not get that far yet.
What you want to do is up to you. Yes, sometimes a clean install of the OS can correct some issues, but you said the OS scan said there was no integrity violations and your drivers and BIOS are all up to date.
As long as removing the hardware did not cause any damage, this all leads me to think it is a software conflict issue, perhaps, but again I could be wrong.
This is the nature of troubleshooting something, when the person that is trying to help does not have access to the computer and hardware that is involved. You just have to take steps one at a time to work the problem using process of elimination.
You are doing well so far, attempting things we have suggested, so what you do is up to you.
I still suggest checking the BIOS settings and other things we have talked about. Please read back over the thread to make sure you did not miss anything.
So the Killer Network manager is not on my PC as far as I can tell. I have searched
my programs and features
in device manager.
not seen in my services
- Where else could it be?
Bios, RAM and CMOS
For BIOS, I simply tested it by loading "optimized defaults"
Save it
Exit
Load back into BIOS
Load my OC profile, which I use, and check if there are any differences to the BIOS other than speed of fans, CPU ratio etc. - which there were none.
Im not sure what you mean by "Go to your BIOS settings and read the manual for the motherboard" What am I doing here? The manual details what each thing would do, and clarifies what enabling or disabling it means. Not any recommendation.
RE the CMOS battery. That I took out while PC was shutdown/properly.
I had just done this (pulled it out when PC was awake) to the RAM as I had issues with it, but that's to do with the die of the RAM and my current motherboard not being fully able to run at advertised speeds of 3200MHz. Other than that RAM is correctly installed, I recently even did a Memtest for 4 hours, 0 errors
Windows update
Peculiar is this. Before the problem, when i went into windows security, there was nothing available for me to change press or start. I searched the internet, and the solution was to just refresh windows. Ok. Easily done.
I then refreshed my windows, and I was able to turn on/of windows defender, virus & threat protection etc.
I dont remember the exact timeline, but Im pretty sure it was AFTER I had done this, the problem started occurring.
Do you think the firewall I have now is somehow interfering whit VAC, even if I have put in exceptions to CSGO, steam and other related services? Unlikely...
internet connection and the hardware you use for that connection
The problem has happened while on wifi and ethernet (in the form of personal hotspot.
Im not too sure if they are managed by the same thing, but even if they were, the two windows refreshes should have made the problem go away by now.
Programs
Going into recently installed programs, the only program that I recently installed would be FL studio, the others I have already deleted (HitFilm express is the other (which I deleted), I have no other recollection of any other recently installed software.)
I think I even uninstalled some Killer software not too long ago, but I have it present in my network drivers in device manager, so it should be fine?
Next steps...
What I think Im going to do is restart this PC, and clean my C drive, take out all my other drives, and see if the problem happens.
Or I could take out all my drives, download CS onto my C drive, see if problem happens, and then if it does, do what I mentioned above.
If it keeps on happening then..... Im throwing my PC out my parents room which is 3 stories up.
EDIT: Something I didn't mention. I was having an issue with my steam overlay not working around/before the error started popping up (shift+tab) and one of the fixes was disabling all services. This fixed it, but now even with all services on, it still works. Likely when I reinstalled steam it fixed the issue. What if when I disabled all, and then enabled all, a program that needs to be ON/OFF for VAC to work properly has been turned to the wrong position?
edit 2: I am going to sleep, thanks again for keeping up with me and this problem! If there were more people like you in this world.... wed have gone places by now.
This right here was the most important thing to me that you replied with. You gave excellent replies to the rest mind you, and provided very detailed information, but if you had an issue with your Steam overlay, and disabling some services seemed to fix it, that might still suggest a software conflict with Steam. That is, if you are sure you have exceptions in your firewall and Windows Defender, if that is your antivirus.
What I would suggest is to look closely at msconfig after allowing all processes to run after a fresh boot up next time you turn on your PC or restart it. Look under services and startup (task manager in Windows 10).
Anything third party might be suspicious. You can safely check the box there to "hide all Microsoft services" as of course, those are not an issue and should not be disabled.
You need to be careful what you disable here, if anything. Research what a process is for or part of before disabling it. If you have any Killer processes running, they should show up here. Of course, the one for the driver is needed and should not be disabled.
You can also provide some screenshots if you wish and we can also take a look at what you have running.
I can't really think of anything else as of now. You have covered a lot and seem to have done most all of what I normally go over with users that have the error. Thanks for the kind words, by the way. I would be happy to try to continue to help, but hope to not also send you in circles at the same time, trying to figure this out.
Screenshots :
1. Click Windows Start and type in msconfig and run that resulting process. Go to the services tab and check the box on bottom "Hide all Microsoft services". Take screenshots of all that is left.
2. Then go to the startup tab on top of that same window (Task Manager in W10). Expand the header on the left so we can best see the process name (small window, so do the best you can). Take screenshots of all that there also. Don't forget to scroll down if needed and get everything in the shots, please.
Post all the links to the above screenshots here, using a file hosting site such as imgur.com, which is free to use.
I tested not enabling any and the problem still occurred. Startup servies are here : https://imgur.com/a/vEHgjIw
Here is a ss of the tab "details" https://imgur.com/a/iyTwFnd
As we speak, I am resetting my C drive and keeping my personal files but deleting everything else. I will then restore my Windows firewall to default settings, and crewate new exceptions and hope that the problem wont occur then. If it does, I have no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idea what this is about.
Many of those processes just needlessly take up system resources as you game.
I can't be sure, but the first ones I usually consider suspect are any that are "manager" or "service" or "updater" processes. You can do these actions yourself anyway, so they are not even needed most of the time, and can run automatically on boot, and waste your boot time and take up resources.
One such I see is "Adobe Genuine Monitor Service". It 'monitors' and it's a 'service' for that monitoring. As far as I know, this should not be an issue with VAC, BUT it is a process as I have described above.
So for example here, you could disable all that, reboot to apply the changes, and then try again to see if VAC is happy.
I know you said you may have done some of this already and it did not help the problem, but I wanted to give any feedback and not leave you hanging there and just bail.
"Corsair Gaming Audio Configuration"
Do you have any hardware even related to this process ? Why is that one in the list ? It seems to be in the "high" list for startup impact. Have you had the hardware that is related to this process in that PC for a long time ?
Remember, programs that you have had for a long time might not be an issue, then all of a sudden one or more of them gets an update and it possibly creates a new software conflict with Steam, games, or VAC.
I want to make sure you understand that this is completely shooting in the dark here from me at this point. I can only give suggestions on what might be causing the error.
It MIGHT help to maybe describe how often or when you GET the error. Is it exactly about the same time each time you try to connect to a VAC server, or does it seem to be random ? That might help narrow things down.