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VAC detect cheatengine at Dota 2 WHEN "Playing With Bot" Seriusly? Why?
And, my account suspended for 1 month...

I know VAC is serius matter at game online mostly at playing multiplayer...
BUT, why VAC also detect at Local game? "playing with Bot"?

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Is my mistake to use cheat engine (yeah..) AND connected to Internet (dam. it...). But, I'm only want to test that Gold in dota 2 can be hacked by simple cheat engine method. So I try it at local game "playing with bots" and use cheat engine. AND... you got a lot gold, then play ONLY 1 game and exit game.

And Next day, My account suspended by VAC... (-_-")
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It's OK steam or administartor will not unsuspend my account, (Anyway, my live is not for dota 2) But may I want to give my word to developer of Dota 2.
that, VAC should NOT active when Local Game... You know, "Playing with Bot" is very Local, even you can play it offline.
And I not understand, Why Local game must have VAC enabled but your local game will never upload to server. It's very unnecessary.

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Thanks for reading... :)
I'm sorry if I have bad English and wrong captions...
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bonfriggle May 26, 2014 @ 4:13am 
You should never experiment with hacks. End of story.
Astori Heichalot May 26, 2014 @ 8:06am 
Originally posted by FS Archduke:
If your story is true,
there is no evident of truthfulness

lets say if he did only once, but his real intention is not clear whether it was only for testing purposes or for future plans.

bot game isnt so local, because:
1. it connects to server
2. selecting all bots or few players with bots is just a few click in an already created room

1 month of punishment is way too light,
I hope the VAC flag stays there even after the ban duration ended.

CS cheaters receive permanent ban, so should Dota 2, both games are multiplayer competitive
76561198015167906 May 28, 2014 @ 5:42am 
yeah... it up to you astori, if you want to believe it or not....

if you want to prove bot game, you should know about LAN, Localhost, Internet and relation with them.

"bot game isn't so local" <- WRONG STATEMENT, Bot game is Local.
and, LAN, Localhost, WAN, Internet ALL must connect to SERVER to gain connection.

BOT game probably operate at localhost (127.0.0.1 - default but different port) are fully operated at Inside PC.
BOT game, if you still don't believe, open steam offline then play dota 2, you can still play "practice with bot".
What That means? That mean BOT game doesn't need internet to play. They create a Connection system it self, it called Localhost.
Main executable (program) will fork (create) child (for this purpose bot player). Child and parrent (main program) are connected via Localhost but them separately run in different prosess.

It that clear astori?

Anyway, I use cheat engine because I boring with only single mode play dota, 5v5 and play (default).
You know, at dota 1, I know there was a mode i like to play, for example -wtf mode.
It's make player at dota have alternative playmode, and not get boring with original mode.

Oh once more, I also hate cheater, IN MULTIPLAYER
Last edited by dika_saja; May 28, 2014 @ 5:51am
Welene Wios May 28, 2014 @ 6:10am 
Originally posted by dika_saja:
And, my account suspended for 1 month...

I'm only want to test that Gold in dota 2 can be hacked by simple cheat engine method.

Look on the bright side. Your little experiment was a success!
ecznos May 28, 2014 @ 11:19am 
They removed your vac ban? Wow..
Astori Heichalot May 28, 2014 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by dika_saja:
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Oh once more, I also hate cheater, IN MULTIPLAYER
not a valid statement
you cheated, because you can

one saying "hate cheater" or "hate to cheat" or "dispite cheating" isnt a ground to stand whether one do/did cheat previously or been cheating all this time
spoof May 28, 2014 @ 11:04pm 
the dota temp VAC bans do not show up on the profile.
check the wiki for it.

cheating offline with bots is basicly just as bad.
you are messing with the creative content of the game developers , thats like adding a beard to the mona lisa.
John Caveson May 29, 2014 @ 12:22am 
Unfortunately, robots don't recognize human "intention". It detected a cheat and acted accordingly. Sorry bud.

At least your experiment was a success.
NOT FUFUFAFA May 29, 2014 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by spoof:
the dota temp VAC bans do not show up on the profile.
check the wiki for it.

cheating offline with bots is basicly just as bad.
you are messing with the creative content of the game developers , thats like adding a beard to the mona lisa.

...what? Cheating offline is not bad. It IS not, and will never be.

So what if I want to add beard to a copy of Mona Lisa picture? Will I get jailed? REALLY? Wtf?

It's just in Dota it's already connected to Steam's server once you open Dota 2, unless Steam is started in Offline Mode. That's probably why the Topic Creator got banned/suspended.
Cardinal Funky May 29, 2014 @ 7:52am 
:boomer:Well, I hate cheaters also. However, I have cheated in a few RPG's, and some of the modding in Skyrim can be clarified as cheating, lmao. However, even trying an actual cheating device to either try it out, or for personal gain, it just isn't right.:jianh:
spoof May 29, 2014 @ 8:09am 
...what? Cheating offline is not bad. It IS not, and will never be.
than you are just selective in what rules to break and what rules not to break.

using developer commands to play and have fun is fine online and offline.
changing creative content and code is not fine online or offline.

I never said add a beard to a copy of the mona lisa.

Last edited by spoof; May 29, 2014 @ 8:09am
Satoru May 29, 2014 @ 8:11am 
VAC bans for cheating

Not for what YOU think is cheating
NOT FUFUFAFA May 29, 2014 @ 12:19pm 
Originally posted by spoof:
...what? Cheating offline is not bad. It IS not, and will never be.
than you are just selective in what rules to break and what rules not to break.

using developer commands to play and have fun is fine online and offline.
changing creative content and code is not fine online or offline.

I never said add a beard to a copy of the mona lisa.

Because you're making a big deal out of nothing.

Cheating OFFLINE means cheating for yourself in a closed environment.

Changing creative content.....

...............................

*facepalm*
Last edited by NOT FUFUFAFA; May 29, 2014 @ 12:20pm
Serhado May 29, 2014 @ 12:24pm 
You made a mistake by using ce on steam while you were online and you should have added this command -nosecure
Hopper May 29, 2014 @ 1:35pm 
Be grateful Dota 2 doesnt give permanent vac bans at first and that it doesnt show up on your profile.
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