2 accounts on one pc with same game, one cheats -> both banned?

[ZanyScum]

Hello,
I am a regular reader of this forum to gloat and for the Schadenfreude,
but now I read one of the few posts where it is possible the "I did nothing" guy really did nothing.
He said, he has been banned on his 2nd account in an internet cafe.
That started me thinking.

Situation:
The cafe has steam installed and CS installed.
User 1 uses his account AC1 to cheat and gets banned.
User 2 uses his account AC2 without cheating.

Will user 2 be banned too because CS is only installed once?
I expect this to happen, but I would like to know.
Not really useful, just curious.

[Slimebulance]

No, once my main account got banned for cheating, i started using my smurf as a cs:go account. Diffrence is when the cheat is still running.

[ZanyScum]

So we have to assume the "I have an Internet Cafe account" reason is as valid as the dog/cousin/brother. I see.
Thanks.

[ReBoot]

Its entirely possible that the cafe owner is an idiot and sessions rom different users leak.

[ReBoot]

Naughtyhands の投稿を引用：

ReBoot の投稿を引用：

Its entirely possible that the cafe owner is an idiot and sessions rom different users leak.

I found that the Korean owned internet cafes are far superior than the ones ran by Americans. Almost every American owned icafe I went to was lacking in security whereas the Korean ones, though not REALLY secure, was pretty secure.

Ive never been to the states (I assume that's what you mean by "America"). But the world is bigger han two countries anyway.

[ReBoot]

Naughtyhands の投稿を引用：

ReBoot の投稿を引用：

Ive never been to the states (I assume that's what you mean by "America"). But the world is bigger han two countries anyway.

True but most internet cafes in the States are ran by Americans and Koreans. You'll get the occasional Armenians and Russians.

Why are we talking about the United States here? Don't you think there are way more countries that

[Silicon Vampire]

If you choose to use your own account on a cafe computer you can not verify the security of, then you have to deal with any consequences.

[The Giving One]

Silicon Vampire の投稿を引用：

If you choose to use your own account on a cafe computer you can not verify the security of, then you have to deal with any consequences.

This is the right answer. Also, seen in this support FAQ linked below the actual text from it about VAC..which is also linked in the pinned thread.

"Use only trusted machines to play on VAC-Secured servers - if you are not sure whether or not the machine you are using to connect to Steam may have cheats installed, do not play on VAC-Secured servers."

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-RADZ-6869&l=english

It completely amazes me how someone would log into an internet cafe and use their Steam account or log into any personal account for that matter (email, for example), and play VAC protected games on it from their account login session.

[ZanyScum]

Ok, then we are back to: he might be a not-cheater :)

[3am]

Maybe not a cheater.... just daft... but the end resut is still the same...

[The Giving One]

ZanyScum の投稿を引用：

Ok, then we are back to: he might be a not-cheater :)

Not sure what your point here is, but yes there are ways for an account to get a VAC ban applied to it and the actual rightful user of that account did not cheat. There are a couple of different ways that can actually happen.

But the end result is the same and it is the rightful user's responsibility anyway, and that is the account is banned.

[Silicon Vampire]

The only thing that does matter: Cheats were detected while account was connected to a VAC secure server. Let's not be calling anyone a cheater.

[ZanyScum]

My point is just: are all "I did not cheat" guys cheaters, or did some really not cheat.
You never know, and some of the stories are really good.

[The Giving One]

ZanyScum の投稿を引用：

My point is just: are all "I did not cheat" guys cheaters, or did some really not cheat.
You never know, and some of the stories are really good.

No, just because an account has a VAC ban that does not mean the rightful user of the account did in fact cheat while using it. I thought I just said that.

For example...

You loan the use of your account to your "brother" (actually an SSA violation anyway) and HE uses it to cheat. You did not cheat while using the account but the ACCOUNT was still used to cheat.

Also, the internet cafe example that has the same result. Someone else installed cheats on the machine and YOU log in and play your VAC protected games on it...YOU did not "mean" to cheat because you did not know the cheats were installed on that computer, but your account still gets the VAC ban if your account is played on VAC protected servers and VAC detects the files, as it almost surely will.

[shiel]

To add on to what TGO said, sometimes people will use a stolen account to cheat on. Also if you family share with someone and they cheat while playing one of your games, you both get your accounts banned.