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76561198852652603 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 2:14
False overwatch ban
This is my alt i also have a main and i log on to find that i'm overwatch banned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn6sVOLSrIk
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ReBoot 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 3:48 
引用自 The Giving One
The profile of this account now shows a VAC ban.

If both bans are seen, that means that both systems caught the account cheating.
Well, case closed then. VAC is always active by default, theres no debating that
The Giving One 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 3:49 
引用自 ReBoot
Well, case closed then. VAC is always active by default, theres no debating that
Exactly. I was not sure as the OP mentioned an alt in the thread title post, but I guess OP was talking about this account all along. Thanks.
Commander Makara 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 4:20 
ONLY Winaman and COmpetitive MM cases are reviewd byu OW

If there's another method of deploying Game Bans beyoind OW review in CSGO, Valve have not mentioned it.

Competitive and Wingman are only available on official, dedicated matchmakign servers.
Console commands and CSGO SDFK mods are not enabled on these servers.

In these gamemodes:
It is not possible to force a match with specific teams.
It is not possible to know the player s on the opposing teams until the match is establsihed.

To communciate in this manner, the players in question would need to be willign to cooperate to communictate to the detriment of one team despite those never having any prior history.

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As for a cheat providing information, are the cheats still active once the player is deceased and spectating another?

It's not impossible of course, but less likely than the cheat being the target of reports.

Either way, the effect of which would be more difficult to determine was undeniably disruptive beyond all reasonable doubt. Cheats must b blatant for OW conviction.

Refere to John McDonald's GDC comments.
ReBoot 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 4:25 
引用自 Commander Makara
ONLY Winaman and COmpetitive MM cases are reviewd byu OW

If there's another method of deploying Game Bans beyoind OW review in CSGO, Valve have not mentioned it.

Competitive and Wingman are only available on official, dedicated matchmakign servers.
Console commands and CSGO SDFK mods are not enabled on these servers.

In these gamemodes:
It is not possible to force a match with specific teams.
It is not possible to know the player s on the opposing teams until the match is establsihed.

To communciate in this manner, the players in question would need to be willign to cooperate to communictate to the detriment of one team despite those never having any prior history.

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As for a cheat providing information, are the cheats still active once the player is deceased and spectating another?

It's not impossible of course, but less likely than the cheat being the target of reports.

Either way, the effect of which would be more difficult to determine was undeniably disruptive beyond all reasonable doubt. Cheats must b blatant for OW conviction.

Refere to John McDonald's GDC comments.
You're making it so extremely complicated.
First, scumbags losing on purpose to boost a friend in the other team are real. They just switch back and forth, in on game, scumbag A helps scumbag B, in the next game, scumbag B helps scumbag A.
Second, a cheater in your own team providing information doesn't need to be dead. Ever heard of wallhacks? A dude on your team can have a wallhack and tell the team where rhe enemies are while still being alive (and staying so as the wallhack helps heaps). The point here is, the person USIMG that information will get reported and rightfully banned despite not actually cheating.

Haven't touched CSGO for a while, but I can tell you for a fact that both scenarios happen.
最后由 ReBoot 编辑于; 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 4:34
Gilga ™ |Yonaguni| 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 4:37 
And another level 0 account with a VAC ban.
The Giving One 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 4:43 
引用自 Gilga ™
And another level 0 account with a VAC ban.
Yea, I cannot confirm, but interestingly enough, a user with an avatar exactly as that seen on the YouTube page of the OP of this thread, also posted out of order in another thread here, and that account in that post has a VAC ban as well, just as this account the OP uses here in this post has now also ended up showing a VAC ban.

So that "main" account the OP was talking about ? I bet that one is now VAC banned also.
引用自 The Giving One

So that "main" account the OP was talking about ? I bet that one is now VAC banned also.

Unlucky^^

Maybe the one account with first OW and then VAC shared the same telephone number with the other that has a VAC now.
最后由 .#𝚌𝚊𝚞𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 编辑于; 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 4:48
The Giving One 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 4:46 
Unlucky^^

Maybe the one account with first OW and then VAC shared the same telephonen number with the other that has a VAC now.
Good point, and that is very possible. I just want to stress I cannot confirm they are the same users but it is just interesting to me.

Both systems seem to have caught this account cheating, since the profile here now shows a VAC ban where it started from Overwatch.
76561198852652603 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 4:49 
So now it's a vac? oml
The Giving One 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 4:50 
引用自 Bloody.cr3
So now it's a vac? oml
Yep. Because both systems caught your account cheating.

That is about as conclusive as you can get.

EDIT.....................

Multiple investigators voted unanimously on the cheating actually being seen in the gameplay...if one single judge votes "no", they don't ban. (Overwatch)

Then, a totally different and independent system (VAC), which is fully automated, also actually detected identifiable cheats from the computer that was used to play.

The VAC ban takes priority in such cases and is finally displayed, as you will not have two bans for one game for the red text on your profile. The VAC ban all on its own will suffice.

So, two totally different and totally independent systems, each having nothing to do with the other, caught your account cheating.

Absolutely correct.
最后由 The Giving One 编辑于; 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 4:55
Commander Makara 2019 年 1 月 5 日 上午 5:04 
It may be too late, given the Delayed ban system, but it woudl be adviseabl to ensure the security of the account, enable steamguard and deauthorise other devices etc. then completely clean the device of possible cheats before conencting to secure servers with the main account.

Using different accounts to cheat is not necessarily going to save one account if you don't remove the cheats effectively.
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