Jackstepper Nov 29, 2016 @ 5:49pm
I think I was VAC'd because of a bot I use with a game called Tibia.
So I was VAC'd a while back. Before posting here I did extensive research to figure out what's up and why it happened. Come to find out it's for having "cheating" software on your computer. While playing Steam games I run two bots for a Tibia OT Server I play on. The main one I use is called WindBot https://tibiawindbot.com/index.html and the other is called MageBot http://www.tibiadb.com/ . I use both of these bots to farm charactes on an Open Server of Tibia that allows bots, it has no affiliation with Steam whatsoever I can see... BUT it is a software that injects into my Tibia client, because I have this running while I was playing games on Steam did this cause me to get VAC banned? It really sucks because I can't play one of the games I like to play. Is there anything I can do or am I just up the creek without a paddle?

Thanks!
Last edited by Jackstepper; Nov 29, 2016 @ 5:49pm
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Mr. G Nov 29, 2016 @ 5:52pm 
If those are the only type of cheating software on your computer, then more or less that is why you where banned.
Mr. G Nov 29, 2016 @ 5:55pm 
Originally posted by Jackstepper:
Well this really sucks haha. It's not even "cheating" because the server allows botting: http://middlearth.net/?subtopic=latestnews

I don't even know who to contact about this, everything I go to is a dead end.

Sadly, regardles of whatever the case was...your ban stays.

http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/882959527688934488/
Jackstepper Nov 29, 2016 @ 5:55pm 
Originally posted by Captain Price:
If those are the only type of cheating software on your computer, then more or less that is why you where banned.

Well this really sucks haha. It's not even "cheating" because the server allows non-afk botting: http://middlearth.net/?subtopic=latestnews

I run it on another monitor while I play games on steam so I can monitor it. I don't even know who to contact about this, everything I go to is a dead end.
Jackstepper Nov 29, 2016 @ 5:57pm 
Wow.... that's kinda insanely crappy.
Mr. G Nov 29, 2016 @ 5:57pm 
Originally posted by Jackstepper:
Wow.... that's kinda insanely crappy.

It can at times appear that way.
Jackstepper Nov 29, 2016 @ 5:58pm 
So there's no appeal process at all? Like nothing I can do? Not even contact Steam support?
Mr. G Nov 29, 2016 @ 6:01pm 
Originally posted by Jackstepper:
So there's no appeal process at all? Like nothing I can do? Not even contact Steam support?


Nope, VAC bans are final and can't be undone.




Originally posted by the chesterfield:
Originally posted by Jackstepper:
So I was VAC'd a while back. Before posting here I did extensive research to figure out what's up and why it happened. Come to find out it's for having "cheating" software on your computer. While playing Steam games I run two bots for a Tibia OT Server I play on. The main one I use is called WindBot https://tibiawindbot.com/index.html and the other is called MageBot http://www.tibiadb.com/ . I use both of these bots to farm charactes on an Open Server of Tibia that allows bots, it has no affiliation with Steam whatsoever I can see... BUT it is a software that injects into my Tibia client, because I have this running while I was playing games on Steam did this cause me to get VAC banned? It really sucks because I can't play one of the games I like to play. Is there anything I can do or am I just up the creek without a paddle?

Thanks!



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I'm guessing your caps lock key is broken...
Jackstepper Nov 29, 2016 @ 6:02pm 
So what I read it says if it's "wrongfully done" it will automatically be overturned? How does that work haha.
Mr. G Nov 29, 2016 @ 6:03pm 
Originally posted by Jackstepper:
So what I read it says if it's "wrongfully done" it will automatically be overturned? How does that work haha.
You read correct. If the system detected you, it will detect a false ban the same way it banned you to begin with. If you were wrongly banned, then it will indeed fix itself.
Jackstepper Nov 29, 2016 @ 6:06pm 
Well that's promissing. Hopefully it will just take time. Idk if I should keep playing other games like Rocket League with it running in the background or not because I don't want to lose more of my games too.

I wish I could just ask someone to compare what they were seeing to what Magebot and Windbot do and see that it matches up so they see I'm not trying to hack Steam or anything.


Thanks for your info anyway man. Appreciate the feedback.
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Jackstepper Dec 2, 2016 @ 5:49pm 
I'm really having a hard time understanding how valve can just VAC ban you and take all the money you spent on steam with certain games and just erase it. I've done even more research and I never was untrusted, didn't go through a review thing, I was just VAC'd randomly with no explanation.
XBL Laberbacke Dec 2, 2016 @ 6:06pm 
Originally posted by Jackstepper:
I'm really having a hard time understanding how valve can just VAC ban you and take all the money you spent on steam with certain games and just erase it. I've done even more research and I never was untrusted, didn't go through a review thing, I was just VAC'd randomly with no explanation.
They tell you beforehand in their Steam subscriber agreement (or something). That you didn't read it isn't their fault. And the explanation is: You did something forbidden. You don't have to do it a couple of times, just once.
The Giving One Dec 2, 2016 @ 6:49pm 
There are ways for an account to earn a VAC ban where the rightful user of the account did not actually cheat, but the ban is still your responsibility.

Please read the pinned thread. Be sure to also read pages linked from within that pinned thread.

http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/882959527688934488/
The Giving One Dec 6, 2016 @ 5:53pm 
Originally posted by Jackstepper:

I've never used a CS:GO cheat. Perioed. I use bots for Tibia which I explained above. I had pretty trash stats on CS:GO.
Don't pay attention to Bear Minimum. He trolls threads here and posts misinformation all over the place. You can see that in his post history.

There are other ways for an account to get a VAC ban where you did not actually cheat. All covered in the information from the pinned thread.

Please read the pinned thread. Be sure to also read pages linked from within that pinned thread.

http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/882959527688934488/
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