Boycott Steam's marketplace until they address their authenticator issues

[Juan Hitchcock]

It's beyond ridiculous that Steam is requiring their mobile authenicator to be able to sell on the marketplace. If you refuse, you get a 15 day hold on your items. I personally do not own a smartphone. I don't like them, and they're overpriced. Reasons for others varies and that's perfectly fine. So here is my proposal to the many that fall into this category. Boycott the marketplace. Remove all and previous items from the market. Do not purchase anything in the market. Steam makes a cut from each sale. Don't give Steam another cent without addressing this issue.

[Sludge Metal Mike]

Nah. I like using the market

[Juan Hitchcock]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sludge Metal Mike:

Nah. I like using the market

This discussion isn't about whether or not you like using the market. I like using the market myself, but not when I have to wait 15 days as punishment for not using a certain software.

[Sludge Metal Mike]

not a punishment, account security
http://store.steampowered.com/news/20631/

[Juan Hitchcock]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sludge Metal Mike:

not a punishment, account security
http://store.steampowered.com/news/20631/

Of course it is punishment for not using their software. They can call it whatever, doesn't me it's true. I only sell trading cards or sometimes other items that at most are valued at 20 cents. Having to wait 15 days is a ridiculous amount of time for such a small amount. Especially when I'm on my Steam account nearly everyday. Since you are a regular seller, it makes since for you to have this added protection for your account. Not everyone is an avid seller. The average person should has a choice and my choice is to not use the market until they address this issue that plagues a good amount of gamers that use Steam.

[Sludge Metal Mike]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Reble:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sludge Metal Mike:

not a punishment, account security
http://store.steampowered.com/news/20631/

Of course it is punishment for not using their software. They can call it whatever, doesn't me it's true. I only sell trading cards or sometimes other items that at most are valued at 20 cents. Having to wait 15 days is a ridiculous amount of time for such a small amount. Especially when I'm on my Steam account nearly everyday. Since you are a regular seller, it makes since for you to have this added protection for your account. Not everyone is an avid seller. The average person should has a choice and my choice is to not use the market until they address this issue that plagues a good amount of gamers that use Steam.

Your choice is mobile auth or 15 days - you don't have to like it but its there and its not going anywhere. boycott all you like, but all the avid sellers are using the auth - read the article

[Juan Hitchcock]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sludge Metal Mike:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Reble:

Of course it is punishment for not using their software. They can call it whatever, doesn't me it's true. I only sell trading cards or sometimes other items that at most are valued at 20 cents. Having to wait 15 days is a ridiculous amount of time for such a small amount. Especially when I'm on my Steam account nearly everyday. Since you are a regular seller, it makes since for you to have this added protection for your account. Not everyone is an avid seller. The average person should has a choice and my choice is to not use the market until they address this issue that plagues a good amount of gamers that use Steam.

Your choice is mobile auth or 15 days - you don't have to like it but its there and its not going anywhere. boycott all you like, but all the avid sellers are using the auth - read the article

You fail you understand. I'm not an avid seller. Just a regular ol' Joe Gamer. My option is ether wait the 15 days or go buy a phone that I physcially have trouble using just to install an app so I can sell my trading cards. I welcome any discussion in this matter, but you are not bringing up any point that relates to my situation and others in similar situations. Reading an article about account protection has nothing to do with this issue. If my account gets hacked, I'm not worried about my 50 cents of trading cards that I may lose. I can still recover my account. Not having the mobile authinicator does not prevent that. As your article says; "Steam Support will no longer restore items that have left accounts following a successful trade or market transaction (a process that previously created duplicates of original items)."

[Sludge Metal Mike]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Reble:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sludge Metal Mike:

Your choice is mobile auth or 15 days - you don't have to like it but its there and its not going anywhere. boycott all you like, but all the avid sellers are using the auth - read the article

You fail you understand. I'm not an avid seller. Just a regular ol' Joe Gamer. My option is ether wait the 15 days or go buy a phone that I physcially have trouble using just to install an app so I can sell my trading cards. I welcome any discussion in this matter, but you are not bringing up any point that relates to my situation and others in similar situations. Reading an article about account protection has nothing to do with this issue. If my account gets hacked, I'm not worried about my 50 cents of trading cards that I may lose. I can still recover my account. Not having the mobile authinicator does not prevent that. As your article says; "Steam Support will no longer restore items that have left accounts following a successful trade or market transaction (a process that previously created duplicates of original items)."

I do understand, you fail to understand that this is implemented to protect your steam account, more so those with valuable steam accounts - they will not recover items and as you do not have the mobile auth the 15 days is there to PROTECT you as it give you 15 days to see if your account has been compromised. you may not like it, but its here

[Juan Hitchcock]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sludge Metal Mike:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Reble:

You fail you understand. I'm not an avid seller. Just a regular ol' Joe Gamer. My option is ether wait the 15 days or go buy a phone that I physcially have trouble using just to install an app so I can sell my trading cards. I welcome any discussion in this matter, but you are not bringing up any point that relates to my situation and others in similar situations. Reading an article about account protection has nothing to do with this issue. If my account gets hacked, I'm not worried about my 50 cents of trading cards that I may lose. I can still recover my account. Not having the mobile authinicator does not prevent that. As your article says; "Steam Support will no longer restore items that have left accounts following a successful trade or market transaction (a process that previously created duplicates of original items)."

I do understand, you fail to understand that this is implemented to protect your steam account, more so those with valuable steam accounts - they will not recover items and as you do not have the mobile auth the 15 days is there to PROTECT you as it give you 15 days to see if your account has been compromised. you may not like it, but its here

Yes, you surely don't understand. I DO NOT want my Steam account to be protected under the premise that I HAVE to have this software that I DO NOT want. I don't need the hassle of a 15 day wait in the name of protection. I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand. It's not difficult. Yes this may be here, but it will limit the market. This will change sometime in the future. As far as where it goes, who knows. Even if I'm the only one, so be it. If you are going to keep commenting, offer something useful. If I wanted to be protected, I would buy DRM-free games.

[PaskaT]

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[Demag]

This is getting super frustrating trying to sell stuff on the market. I post a card for sale and since I have to wait 15 days the price will change and I will miss out all because I don't have a certain type of phone.
Please remove this feature unless you're going to open it up to all devices!

[MongoTheRed]

I completely agree that it is absolutely punishing those that keep their account secure due to others not doing so and losing items through the marketplace. If it wasn't for the fact that others lost items this would not be happening. I join your boycott. I will not give them my wife's cell number so they can sell the information to 3rd parties who will continually call us and annoy us.

[MongoTheRed]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Reble:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sludge Metal Mike:

I do understand, you fail to understand that this is implemented to protect your steam account, more so those with valuable steam accounts - they will not recover items and as you do not have the mobile auth the 15 days is there to PROTECT you as it give you 15 days to see if your account has been compromised. you may not like it, but its here

Yes, you surely don't understand. I DO NOT want my Steam account to be protected under the premise that I HAVE to have this software that I DO NOT want. I don't need the hassle of a 15 day wait in the name of protection. I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand. It's not difficult. Yes this may be here, but it will limit the market. This will change sometime in the future. As far as where it goes, who knows. Even if I'm the only one, so be it. If you are going to keep commenting, offer something useful. If I wanted to be protected, I would buy DRM-free games.

2v1 Sludge Metal Mike. Lets see who else chimes in.

[Lunacy]

Not everyone has a specific type of phone, I would guess maybe 15% of steam can even use the apps to skip the wait. Not only did it kill off trade sites but is also killing the market as everything has inflated beyond a buyable price.
Literally all they have to do is give us e-mail confirmation, everyone has one of those and it's more closely guarded than your phone.

[CoDii]

I do not want to boycott the market, but it is a punishment to all who have no smartphone, no supported smartphone or do not want to use the steam guard app. I personally have no smartphone and I will not buy any of the phones. I have my reasons.
It is fine to use the steam mobile guard to secure the account but it is not fine to force user to the steam mobile guard that the can effectivly use the community market, to have no wait time.
There must be a other way.
This must be a pain for all users who trade often. I trade not often but some days I trade the collected cards of my games.

For example Holiday sale on 20 december :
You got 15 event cards / items or anything else.
Without a Mobile Guard you're offer will placed on 04 january in the new year. the item is not that much worth than on 20 december, so you are nearly not able to sale that item.
All others with Mobile Guard can trade items fast and a happy about there trades.

So at all, it is a punishment.
So Valve should think about that community market and should give non smartphone users a other way to secure better the account and to offer them a fair trade chance on community market

[Skywalker]

The market with the restriction is a broken feature for me, so I won't use it. Not sure if it counts as boycott.

On the other hand, I guess someone motivated to have some items traded or sold fast could ask the staff at community market support to manually lift the restriction for that trade, with sufficient proof of account ownership in the ticket. Not sure if it will work, of course... But if the point of this feature is really to protect the accounts, it should.