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Frankly people (or rather humans on the whole) really suck at perspective. We tend to remember the hits and ignore the misses, depedning on what angle you're taking.
So yeah people foget there have ALWAYS been absolutel showers of ♥♥♥♥♥ as far as games go.
Back in the early days on computing, before major companies were turning out games, most games were sold by bedroom coders off their own back, or in the backs of magazines. Only if they got really lucky did they maybe land a publishing deal with one of the fledgling corporations.
And there were TONS of bandwagon jumping garabge. Back on the ZX Spectrum there was quite a news cycle going round about some of this barely working crap that released - there was a famous example of a game called SQUIJ (or something like that), or another formula one style game that advertised itself as the most realistic on the Spectrum with it's innovative real steering control.
It was crap, and the reall control was a plastic ball you ran along the number keys to crappily mimic a steering wheel.
Then there's of course the legal case of ex-Atari emplyees wanting to turn out their own games for the Atari VCS under their new companies of Activision, Imgic et al. They won, but a consequence of that was a shower of fly by night companies and shovelware galore which led to the gaming crash that is famous.
Even after all that, when Nintendo famously rejigged their Famicom to get it into stores in the US and revitalise the market, the NES itself despite Nintendo's "Seal of Quality" also had a shedload of absolute garbage released for it.
It has always exisdted, but nostalgia and ignorance love to cloud judgement.
plus steam raising recommended prices for some countries
No it does not.
D.C.'s sales tax is 6%.
so yea it is so, steam just greedy and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the prices
or what about in the beginning when steam sold eu games at 60 dollars? they still paid taxes then
You literally said D.C.'s tax was included when it is not. That is false and highly misleading.
Average is irrelevant when each state has its own rate from 0% to 9.55%. All of which is only added upon checkout and not reflected in the price shown on the store page.
What happened in the beginning is irrelevant since they were forced to change that specifically for the EU.
they still selling it in dollars in countries that pay taxes including US but all of a sudden everyone else pays in euro , they dont even bother to support local currency just to make more money
if its added only at the checkout why does it say 80 euros and it costs 80 euros for the same game sold for 70 dollars, make it the same or at least the same currency not decide to enforce the higher currency just cuz they love money
They didn't change it out of the kindness of their own hearts. Most places have a reduced USD price if they don't have their own currency and must use USD.
I never said Euro prices only add tax upon checkout.
This is the issue when talking about how taxes work to people outside of NA. Some people just won't get it.
In the US that's not the case. The prices in the store are excluding taxes. So on checkout the taxes get added.
Simply put, in the EU we know what we're going to pay by just looking at the store page. In the US they need to do some extra math.
what i dont get is why they sold dollar games in states that include tax in the price but then sold the same game for other countries that include tax but priced as euros when euro didnt match dollar all these decades, even more so the price of euro is higher for some games than dollars
I'm sorry but that's the most ridiculous assertion I've heard.
Do you have any evidence for this claim?
i am not selling it for the full price either i am open to offers too
have a think on it
theres a subscription to another game making thing too that i also have, i forget the name i think it is 12months? can have that too
Considering in the mid to late 90's an unskilled part time job for an 18 year old would get you £3 per hour (about £5.70 adjusted for inflation) and now the same job would pay £7.50.
A price of about £60 to £75 for a AAA game would be fair in this day and age, whats wrong, whats a ripoff and imho downright immoral is all the cosmetics,battle passes, live service BS, the crates, gambling and the way they nickle and dime you, that and the way DLC is sold. At least back in the mid to late 90's when you had expansions, they were sizable and significant content.
Many things rise at their own rates, unlike say, food. Entertainment especially.
Back when I ran my own DJing business, the prices generally charged never changed for decades to much of a degree (except for a slight allowance for petrol).
Games in the early 1980s cost £29.99 - I have a poster on one of my walls of Centipede for the Atari VCS with that price tag I took from Computer and Video Games back in the day. I used to get my wage which was only YTS (Youth Training Scheme) money, a mere £50 a week (including allowances, the base was about £35 iirc). So one cartridge took most of my wage.
At that time the average weekly wage was a shade under £100.
The thing is prices are nothing to do with this, and it's a fallacy to measure it this way. Just like most things price is set in majoris by what the market can bear and not really an awful lot else.
more people today have consoles as the 80/s 90/s generation grew up with computer games that started off on home computers or consoles that had bat n ball type stick games, in the UK the Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k and Commodore C64 were the most popular early computers for playing games on, and the different consoles as each one came along like the original Atari and others. They are considered a norm nowadays, our parents thought it was all b****cks and wasting time, we accept it as normal for todays kids to play them, and they make money now from playing them
everythings gone the other way lol
I remember as a kid getting games for 99p sometimes, on tape cassette on the BBC B micro computer which was a 32k machine :p in the mid-to-late 80's/ 1990ish
I have bought a few games for less than that the last few years in sales etc through Steam, they are usually quite old or just bloody rubbish though.
To see 16bit graphics in todays games and the popularity of some of them (Minecraft) :O is a joke to me but I get the creativity thing for the younger kids with it all. Still, todays machines and some of the games being put out feels like we are going backwards at times, I said this years ago and all that seems to have happened since is more airbrushed characters and stuff that needs GB instead of MB, its like a lot of games are just as crap as they always were but you need a more expensive machine to play them on because they look more lifelike or whatever :s
so with that in mind I feel that back when the time that 'gamers' were more considered geeks or not cool, and let's be honest if you can think back and not be able to name the friends who didnt really feel like going out for drinks or to meet girls etc (before dating apps) and preferred to stay in on their latest game all weekend, if you cannot think who that was, it was most probably you, so every weekend was like saving 50 quid minus what you blew on takeaways and baby wipes, and thinking nothing of blowing 40 or 50 on a game every few weeks wasn't anything to worry about, so the prices hold over time and start reducing when newer more attention grabbing titles are released.
Wages and cost of living was more in line back then than they have been in more recent times, even though we always felt broke, at the time you sacrificed a night out or something if you didnt just have the cash to chuck around, now people struggle to pay bills and eat properly so for some the latest game is just a dream, an unfortunate fact for too many.
Anyway, prices jumped up even more, where 75 GBP was considered acceptable in some cases, I might have spent that on some jeans or something but I would have to have had a regular income not be a student or on benefits and been somewhere that had a nice little shop carrying a few specific labels at that particular time, planets had to align for me, not just a matter of 'i have to have it' so spend 75 quid on a game but i had friends that did do that, and i played theirs, and i still thought it wasn't worth it in most cases. I had some dodgy mates and they would get the snide versions and ♥♥♥ games, so I basically played all the new titles and could not understand why they stayed in all the time playing some of them.
I was always a PC guy, point n click strategy games of Championship Manager mostly, i had mates who were either Nintendo or Sega, sometimes both, then it became PS or XBox but they were always the same thing, still are to me, running around shooting stuff, collecting badges, or driving a car round n round, collecting badges, or something else, samey same old gaming engine just changing the aesthetics, going around, getting more badges :s with Nintendo still prancing around in the background with kiddy stuff and the old faithful sellers moving into puzzle and 'braintraining' games!
The games seemed to stagnate for too long and by the time the newer consoles came out and re-released an updated version of whatever big-selling game, it was essentially the same, but those who loved those games continued to buy them and pay the prices demanded.
As being online became more popular to the point where today you need to have Android tech on you just to confirm you are logging onto a pc to play a game :s you are basically telling the 'SALESPEOPLE' in advance that you have an XxXxXxX phone worth XXX Pounds/Dollars/Sheckels/Grotes whatever, and that phone is connected to a home wifi LAN (average price taken into consideration for your region/country) so just from that they can judge that there is a disposable income of a certain amount to class these items as 'must-haves', and then they come up with an 'across-the-board' price that everyone can pay and will pay without twisting their arm too much because they can work out what is an affordable or acceptable price for the majority, and then theres spending patterns and all kinds of other stuff :s
Add in the fact that any clown with an android device can instantly go online and buy anything in a click, usually because an app told them to because they were saving money, or the fear of losing out on the voucher or collector points that are going to expire soon made them take advantage of further 'savings' or points boost, whatever, or maybe it is just that whole not wanting to be left out, because all the cool kids are playing blahblahblah and if i dont play it too they'll all be tiktokking and facebookng and instagramming and twitching all their crap and boohoohoo I won't be a part of it :( add that and people will pretty much pay anything until someone with a working braincell tells them to stop and wind it in. So, anyone who thinks it is just too much, will be outnumbered by those who just pay it, don't forget the double standard of today's living too, where we can applaud cleaners etc for scrubbing up the s**t during lockdown so we dont all die of Covid because they are <hearty heart hands> HEROES, whilst we throw our litter on the floor when we get round the corner or cant be bothered to wedge our bins against a wall on a windy night, someone ewill clean it up! Since Covid, a lot of people do not have the capacity to think further than the next group thing they have to be a part of because the last thing they want is to be all alone and left out like ooooh Covid lockdown oooooh and if that group thing is gaming, and everyone you know online that mean so much to you are playing the latest 120 quid game then ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you better get your credit card out, or wash a lot of pots for your mummy.
When you consider the cost of other things you may stop doing (SAVINGS) because you are spending all your time on a game you just spent all your money on (OUTGOINGS), then is it really a rip-off or just another sacrifice?
Amen.
You are healed my son...