Is Steam Achievement Manager (SAM) safe to use?

[Ais Wallenstein]

Because i want to unlock some of online achievements from a dead game (offline server).

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Oh I wasn't talking about achievements, I was talked about other files.

Hence. If anything program is gonna to modified any .exe where monitored and protected by VAC. Avoid it.

They're not exe's. They're not dlls. That's the point so stop moving the goalposts again.

YOu clearly said you were referring to achievements. That's what this thread is about.

They are NOT checked by VAC EVER.

Does you even heard yourself? I wasn't talking about achievements file modified and get vac ban, I was talking about other thing that is unrelated to here.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Publicado originalmente por Mythical Ostrich:

SAM has never resulted in a VAC ban.

SAM are not without any risk.

Publicado originalmente por blunus:

Since when VAC cares about achievements?

Not really, but as I said. It doesn't mean it is no risk.

Againm, your words belie you yet again. Why do you keep doing this?

YOu mentioned SAM CLEARLY.

THat IS an achievement manager ONLY. Nothing else.

Stop wriggling and moving the goalposts. How hard is it to say you're wrong when I gaveyou the offical evidence?

UNless they are the game executable or the game libaries, they WILL NOT BE CHECKED.

It doesn't matter whether achievements or ANY other program. If it doesn't inject code into those files then it WILL NOT be checked.

THat's something you sai dI was wrong on, and now you're chaningn your stance.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

SAM are not without any risk.


Not really, but as I said. It doesn't mean it is no risk.

Againm, your words belie you yet again. Why do you keep doing this?

YOu mentioned SAM CLEARLY.

THat IS an achievement manager ONLY. Nothing else.

Stop wriggling and moving the goalposts. How hard is it to say you're wrong when I gaveyou the offical evidence?

UNless they are the game executable or the game libaries, they WILL NOT BE CHECKED.

It doesn't matter whether achievements or ANY other program. If it doesn't inject code into those files then it WILL NOT be checked.

THat's something you sai dI was wrong on, and now you're chaningn your stance.

No. I didn't mean SAM will be monitored and get you vac banned.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Againm, your words belie you yet again. Why do you keep doing this?

YOu mentioned SAM CLEARLY.

THat IS an achievement manager ONLY. Nothing else.

Stop wriggling and moving the goalposts. How hard is it to say you're wrong when I gaveyou the offical evidence?

UNless they are the game executable or the game libaries, they WILL NOT BE CHECKED.

It doesn't matter whether achievements or ANY other program. If it doesn't inject code into those files then it WILL NOT be checked.

THat's something you sai dI was wrong on, and now you're chaningn your stance.

No. I didn't mean SAM will be monitored and get you vac banned.

OPk then please explain what you did mean by the statement that

"SAM are not without any risk" then?

Again, your comments are confusing. So what does this mean?

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

No. I didn't mean SAM will be monitored and get you vac banned.

OPk then please explain what you did mean by the statement that

"SAM are not without any risk" then?

Again, your comments are confusing. So what does this mean?

SAM may be safe to use, yes.
But still be careful of any program that is gonna modifying any restriction files where it is monitored by vac. That made SAM as lower risk.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

OPk then please explain what you did mean by the statement that

"SAM are not without any risk" then?

Again, your comments are confusing. So what does this mean?

SAM may be safe to use, yes.
But still be careful of any program that is gonna modifying any restriction files where it is monitored by vac. That made SAM as lower risk.

Nope, the point you seem to be missing is that SAM is NO risk. No more than any other program on here.

VAC CANNOT and DOES NOT check it. Whether you MEANT this is moot because it ain't all about you - discussions are comments for EVERYONE readong, so I try to make it as all encompassing and clear as I can.

There's no other risdk to it. Unless you have any evidence of otherwise. It remains every bit as safe as a game on here or reading the forums because it's unaffected.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

SAM may be safe to use, yes.
But still be careful of any program that is gonna modifying any restriction files where it is monitored by vac. That made SAM as lower risk.

Nope, the point you seem to be missing is that SAM is NO risk. No more than any other program on here.

VAC CANNOT and DOES NOT check it. Whether you MEANT this is moot because it ain't all about you - discussions are comments for EVERYONE readong, so I try to make it as all encompassing and clear as I can.

There's no other risdk to it. Unless you have any evidence of otherwise. It remains every bit as safe as a game on here or reading the forums because it's unaffected.

Prove it. It is still lower risk. And I'm not wrong about files being monitored by VAC. You must want me to modified file on my account and get me vac ban. That is a bit of silly.

PA: I don't care what you think of my comment, but you need to understand that I'm not change my mine based on your opinion.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Nope, the point you seem to be missing is that SAM is NO risk. No more than any other program on here.

VAC CANNOT and DOES NOT check it. Whether you MEANT this is moot because it ain't all about you - discussions are comments for EVERYONE readong, so I try to make it as all encompassing and clear as I can.

There's no other risdk to it. Unless you have any evidence of otherwise. It remains every bit as safe as a game on here or reading the forums because it's unaffected.

Prove it. It is still lower risk. I don't care what you think of my comment, but you need to understand that I'm not change my mine based on your opinion.

Already have. I quoted you the exact phrase from Valve's own words above.

IT ONLY CHECKS GAME FILES AND LIBRARY FILES.

Acheivements are not anywhere in those at all. They're nothing to do with them.

From Valve's own quote I gave you. So where's your claim it does and they are somehow wrong about their own stuff?

Where's your evidence now that you have moved goalposts again? What is possibly bad about SAM that affects ANYTHING? Where's your evidence to show this is remotely possible?

[[☭]-Soviet-Triumph-]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

I'd to understand that I'm not change my mine based on your opinion.

VAC is not packed with Steam client itself in any way and only applicable when developers of selected games choose to implement it in their game, if you're unlocking stuff with SAM when you're actively playing in VAC enabled server then you're at risk, because you know, VAC is running in your background checking processes and irregular programs. but unless, it's safe.

[davidb11]

VAC does not care about SAM.
There is no risk there.
Please don't fuel the fire.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por ☭-Soviet-Triumph-:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

I'd to understand that I'm not change my mine based on your opinion.

VAC is not packed with Steam client itself in any way and only applicable when developers of selected games choose to implement it in their game, if you're unlocking stuff with SAM when you're actively playing in VAC enabled server then you're at risk, because you know, VAC is running in your background checking processes and irregular programs. but unless, it's safe.

No it isn't.

Sam does NOT touch any game files even if you run it in the background and unlock whiel playing oonline.

AS I linked in the VALVE OFFICIAL statement- the ONLY thing that VAC checks is the game executables and the libarayr files.

Achievements and SAM are nowhere close to those files. SO you can run them ANYTIME.

Just like I run in game plugins like on screen keyboard and controller plugins to help with access. They don't get banned either because they do not touch the executables or library files.

It's fine to be cautious but this is demonstrable fact. It ONLY checks those games files for injections into THEM.

Now if Valve are wrong and we are too then please demonstrate your evidence your claim is so.

[[☭]-Soviet-Triumph-]

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

IT ONLY CHECKS GAME FILES AND LIBRARY FILES.

I'm pretty sure it checks memory processes in realtime when it's running, some advanced cheats nowadays doesn't even require a direct modification of game files or dll injection and VAC detected & banned even those ones.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Prove it. It is still lower risk. I don't care what you think of my comment, but you need to understand that I'm not change my mine based on your opinion.

Already have. I quoted you the exact phrase from Valve's own words above.

IT ONLY CHECKS GAME FILES AND LIBRARY FILES.

Acheivements are not anywhere in those at all. They're nothing to do with them.

From Valve's own quote I gave you. So where's your claim it does and they are somehow wrong about their own stuff?

Where's your evidence now that you have moved goalposts again? What is possibly bad about SAM that affects ANYTHING? Where's your evidence to show this is remotely possible?

That is your opinion and I'm not change my mind. I'm not considered SAM is a risk free. It is still lower risk.

And I'm not wrong about modified files being monitored by VAC that could lead to vac banned.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por ☭-Soviet-Triumph-:

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

IT ONLY CHECKS GAME FILES AND LIBRARY FILES.

I'm pretty sure it checks memory processes in realtime when it's running, some advanced cheats nowadays doesn't even require a direct modification of game files or dll injection and VAC detected & banned even those ones.

Again, you're wrong. What part of the above post with a quote FROM VALVE'S OWN STATEMENT don't you grasp?

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Prove it. It is still lower risk. I don't care what you think of my comment, but you need to understand that I'm not change my mine based on your opinion.

IT ONLY CHECKS GAME FILES AND LIBRARY FILES.

I already said that since the begin.