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Ais Wallenstein 2020 年 8 月 13 日 上午 5:56
Is Steam Achievement Manager (SAM) safe to use?
Because i want to unlock some of online achievements from a dead game (offline server).
最後修改者:Ais Wallenstein; 2020 年 8 月 13 日 上午 6:46
引用自 TheFoolKilla:
引用自 Ais Wallenstein
Because i want to unlock some of online achievements from a dead game (offline server).
its safe lmao
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grody_antagonic 2020 年 8 月 14 日 上午 2:55 
引用自 Phoenix's Hellfire
And wouldn't you know it the majority of games that are restricted are cheap cash grabs with free achievements? Hurr durr
All games without a major publisher are "restricted", when they first launch at Steam (exceptions may occur)
最後修改者:grody_antagonic; 2020 年 8 月 14 日 上午 2:57
kitt 2020 年 8 月 14 日 上午 3:06 
引用自 Phoenix's Hellfire
引用自 kitt

and wrong..
that actually applies to you

引用自 kitt
even if you unlock 1000 achievements with 0 seconds playtime and at the same time that doesn't mean you cheated (using sam).
Wrong, you wouldn't get the achievements either...
引用自 kitt
It could mean that you played offline, you used your own Save Game on a different Account yada yada yada
Wrong, there is no game in existence, where all the achievemets come from save file alone. If you played on a different account then how would the Steam achievements appear on your current account? Progress is stored in a way where account only see their own data, except in the case of older games.


引用自 kitt
Also 1$ "trash" Games are not excluded on Trackers, they just don't give any points really for Leaderboards. I don't even start with restricted Game etc
Wrong, I can see you've never used a leaderboard that tracks achievements, any respectable one (e.g. Astats) intentionally exclude games that give tons of achievements for doing nothing
Edit here: I love how in a huge twist of irony you use an achievement tracker on your profile and guess what?
https://completionist.me/steam/profile/76561198022964310
9,323 …in Restricted
You have achievements in games that are restriced, irony!

引用自 kitt
But I think the OP got their Question answered, no need to assume more Stuff about Achievement Hunting with so many false Ideas...
No need for you to state false assumptions, because you don't understand how things function. Just admit ignorance, instead of exposing yourself as a moron.


1) where i'm wrong?
oh i see, you make up claims because you don't know how Steam works :)

2) why should i not get the Achievements?

3) i never stated that you get ALL Achievements from a Save File (you make up claims again). Also i don't get your other Part tbh.

4) funny because i link to at least 2 Sites with Leaderboards on my Profile and yet you ignore the Facts, great one.

5) restricted doesn't mean they are worthless or it will never be lifted, learn how Steam works

6) funny the only ignorance is coming from people who ask for stuff about Achievement Rules etc and then go full cry mode because people have a different way of competing (or just doing it for fun)


7) and yet i had more fun with 40 Cent Games than i had playing GTA 5
最後修改者:kitt; 2020 年 8 月 14 日 上午 3:08
grody_antagonic 2020 年 8 月 14 日 上午 3:38 
引用自 Phoenix's Hellfire
For the same reason why you wouldn't get the hours, because YOU ARE OFFLINE.
Achievements usually do work offline (though there are a few rather rare exceptions). The unlock time will state the time it goes online though, so that can be a problem and is a much discussed thing in the communities.
grody_antagonic 2020 年 8 月 14 日 上午 3:49 
引用自 Phoenix's Hellfire
it all depends on the game, and that still wouldn't unlock the achievements simultaneously, as games have achievements that require you to do things that aren't tied to recorded gameplay progress, and must be done in an active gameplay session.
True, yet the unlock-time would still state that all achievements that were aquired during an offline-session were unlocked at the same time (the time @ which they sync online with the server), which would be false (but that's just how it usually works).
Most games that doesn't require a constant online connection anyhow let you unlock achievements offline and in comparison the games that don't are rather rare (but they exist, yes).
kitt 2020 年 8 月 14 日 上午 6:48 
引用自 davidb11
Well, I'm leaving this thread because it's become some sort of weird holy crusade against everyone by Kitt.


actually you talk down (mostly because you don't like achievement hunters) to me after i provided you with the "proof" you wanted, then people make false claims how things work in a Community of Achievement Hunter, because not being part of it makes you an expert in it.

But go ahead and keep doing what you do but never ask for help again if you shoot the person who actually is providing you with the help.
最後修改者:kitt; 2020 年 8 月 14 日 上午 7:19
crunchyfrog 2020 年 8 月 14 日 下午 8:47 
引用自 Ais Wallenstein
I don't get it. Why would people care so much about the way you get your achievement anyway? Lmao. Did you get paid by completing it or what?

And like i already said before, i just want to use it to unlock broken achievements from some dead game server. Ofc, i won't regret anything as long i don't get banned from using it.

It's simple - it's because people will inadequate knowledge wrongly evaluate the importance.

You will see comments dating back to the start of the internet going on about cheating in games, about how it hurts others online. But you will ALSO see people make the same arguments for SINGLE PLAYER cheating, which is ridiculous. It's borne of a twisted sense of jealousy/self/whatever. They cannot bear that someone might be doing something easier than them. It's irrational and weird.

So the same goes for SAM. If normally they're unlocked legitimately, they get antsy for the same being unlocked by cheating it.

But here's the thing - basic critical thinking shows how it's a nonsense argument. They will say daft ad hoc excuses like "yeah but it affects those of us who earned it legitimately as it distorts the figures". No it doesn't, or at least, they CANNOT tell. Simply because you point out to them "hey, of those percentage of people shown as earning x achievement, which ones cheated?"

They cannot tell, ergo it's moot.

So yeah, it's like most things these days - people suck at basic critical thinking, empathy et al.

I've had plenty of discussions with people where I've openly admitted to cheating in many single player games. And my reasons I give are always the same - if I truly love a game and it's world (or it's mechanics) I want to complete it then go back and ♥♥♥♥ around in it nad investigate. No much different to how cheats in GTA are fun and widely used.

I recently bought Dark Souls 2 JUST for cheating like crap in it (offline of course). Simple reason being, it was dirt cheap in a sale and I'd played all I'd wanted on PS4 so I bought it just to screw around in and noclip. I'm also disabled and sometimes if I'm going through a bad patch and I'm halfway through a game and can't drop difficulty, I'll also cheat a little to get past something.

But here's the thing. Even with simple explanations like that, which CLEARLY demonstrates both they're legitimate reasons AND hurting absolutely nobody, they wil STILL chunter like babies about it, coming up with the most ridiculous ad hoc excuses and crying.

By all means try it using my examples above and you'll see.
crunchyfrog 2020 年 8 月 14 日 下午 8:49 
引用自 grody_antagonic
引用自 Phoenix's Hellfire
it all depends on the game, and that still wouldn't unlock the achievements simultaneously, as games have achievements that require you to do things that aren't tied to recorded gameplay progress, and must be done in an active gameplay session.
True, yet the unlock-time would still state that all achievements that were aquired during an offline-session were unlocked at the same time (the time @ which they sync online with the server), which would be false (but that's just how it usually works).
Most games that doesn't require a constant online connection anyhow let you unlock achievements offline and in comparison the games that don't are rather rare (but they exist, yes).

Indeed this is true.

There's many different ways achievments work on here. Many will not unlock if you drop offline. Some will pop en masse once you go back on, or start the game anew. Others will unlock but not have time stamps, and others again may pop up next time you're online, with ALL the same time and date stamp.

I've even had some games pop up achievements when I was not even running them a couple fo days after!
WhiteKnight 2020 年 8 月 14 日 下午 9:12 
Why hasn't Valve done anything to remove this software?. Honestly their achievement system sucks. I wished it was more like battle.net achievements.
🦜Cloud Boy🦜 2020 年 8 月 14 日 下午 10:34 
I have seen a person got a GAME BAN for using SAM.
WhiteKnight 2020 年 8 月 14 日 下午 11:25 
引用自 davidb11
引用自 WhiteKnight
Why hasn't Valve done anything to remove this software?. Honestly their achievement system sucks. I wished it was more like battle.net achievements.

Did you even read the thread?
VAlve literally does not care one single IOTA about SAM.
it's absurd to even think so.
Also, I swear I unsubbed from this thread.

Nope. I just saw the title and wanted to vent my frustration against Valve.
crunchyfrog 2020 年 8 月 15 日 下午 5:31 
引用自 WhiteKnight
引用自 davidb11

Did you even read the thread?
VAlve literally does not care one single IOTA about SAM.
it's absurd to even think so.
Also, I swear I unsubbed from this thread.

Nope. I just saw the title and wanted to vent my frustration against Valve.

Well, I strongly suggest you try communicating ACTUAL correct info. How are we supposed to know your true intent was to vent against Valve by picking an irrelevant topic to that?

SAM affects NOBODY - so why should anyone care a single ♥♥♥♥ about it?

And if you think it DOES affect others - please do prove the point by demonstrating which of my achievements on Killing Florr were unlocked via SAM.
Sazzouu 2020 年 8 月 16 日 上午 12:20 
引用自 Phoenix's Hellfire
Wrong, you wouldn't get the achievements either...

Wrong..
There is enough of games that unlock thousands of achievements by completing ONE task as well as there are such cases like this one...
引用自 Sazzouu
As well as poor implementation can lead to randomness such as randomly unlocking all achievements at once. I had several games where you can beat all achievements in one playsession but the unlocking happens when you close the game so even the timestamp says NOTHING about whether those were cheated or not.


引用自 Phoenix's Hellfire
Wrong, there is no game in existence, where all the achievemets come from save file alone.

Wrong...
Geometry Dash unlocks them all if you import your savegame from mobile to the PC version
最後修改者:Sazzouu; 2020 年 8 月 16 日 上午 12:21
crunchyfrog 2020 年 8 月 16 日 下午 6:25 
引用自 Phoenix's Hellfire
引用自 Sazzouu

Wrong..
There is enough of games that unlock thousands of achievements by completing ONE task as well as there are such cases like this one...
Wrong... The point I made was about a game offline not about whether or not the achievements are implemented properly... Try to actually address the points...

引用自 Sazzouu

Wrong...
Geometry Dash unlocks them all if you import your savegame from mobile to the PC version
Wrong... Steam exclusive achievements

P.S. Trash game for kids

Oh boy.... gatekeeping. That changes nothing. The point stands, as it IS a game whether you like it or not. Whether it's good or poor is irrlevant. The ONLY criteria is that it is up on Steam and therefore allowed by Valve.

That's poor form using that excuse.
crunchyfrog 2020 年 8 月 17 日 下午 4:14 
引用自 Phoenix's Hellfire
引用自 crunchyfrog

Oh boy.... gatekeeping. That changes nothing. The point stands, as it IS a game whether you like it or not. Whether it's good or poor is irrlevant. The ONLY criteria is that it is up on Steam and therefore allowed by Valve.

That's poor form using that excuse.

Reading, try it some time:
引用自 Phoenix's Hellfire
Wrong... Steam exclusive achievements
In case you didn't know the game has achievements that are only available on Steam.

Love it when fools insert their two cents without actually knowing what the discussion is about or following the discussion properly. :steamsalty:

Oh touche.

I ONLY tackled the point about you saying it wasn't a game, nothing more.

Way to miss the point.
dumbass bird 2020 年 11 月 9 日 上午 11:37 
Can you get achievements for games you don't have? I wanna get the items for Poker Night at the Inventory and I don't own that game (shocker right?)
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