They make controllers for sissies now

[itzDerrio]

Got stick drift on my THIRD ps5 controller, switched to PC and got stick drift in both analogs with the series X/S controller. why are these feeble, cheap material, mediocre battery life POS controllers so expensive when they get problems on their own just for being used like A CONTROLLER? the ps2 and 3 controllers felt plasticy and cheap but they were durable af, and u could enlist the xbox360 and gamecube controller into the military. back then controllers could have that rattling sound inside and still function like brand new, now they just break for no reason just from being used

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by sumolagann:

DS4 controllers are the only controller I like of anything new but the build quality is so bad, it's really irritating. Have to get another one due to the stick spazzing out at random. fixes for awhile if I blow in it, but it's relatively new.

I did attempt to repair the R2 on the last controller with youtube videos, but I couldn't make it function again and the little pieces that come out are too confusing and weird to put back.

Any good solution for someone who doesn't want to open their controller crunchyfrog? I'd also just buy something else or a knockoff if it's the same shape, Dualsense was unusable for me.

You didn't need to buy a new one.

You can easily fix it and here's how bnecause I've done it a number of times to them.

OPen the thing up and get the joystick caps off so you can see the potentiometers. Get an aircan or carefully blow in there to dislodge any of the carbon dust as that's what is the main culprit.

Once you've done that, get yourself some switch cleaner (I always use Servisol as it's as good as the more expensive stuff, though not exactly cheap itself - but it does last for ages). Spray that in those pots and liberally move the joysticks continuously for a couple of minutes. Do it again.

Then put the thing back together and it should be OK. If you still have issues, go back in and repeat, being a bit more diligent.

The last one I did this to was over 18 months ago and it's still holding up strong.

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

I have Playstation 2 controllers that still have zero drift. They still work flawlessly. Meanwhile, I have had half a dozen or more modern controllers (PS4, Switch, Xbox 1) controllers that had to be repaired or replaced due to drift.

Yup because the design changed and they went' for cheaper pots.

PS2 still use carbon tracks on plastic parts but instead of flimsy thin sheets they're a bit more robust. I suspect (but havent' checked) that the carbon track is thicker too. It's defintely more riobust as it sits on a firmer plastic substrate.

With the modern ones they're not much thicker than old cassette tape, and because of this it's dead easy for the carbon dust to scratch off and interfere with the signal.

Upgrading to hall effect alternatives from Gulikit or just cleaning them via the method I've detailed above works fine though.

I hope they address this in future conoles though as this is a terrible design choice.

[P R O P H Y L A X I S]

Originally posted by itzDerrio:

Got stick drift on my THIRD ps5 controller, switched to PC and got stick drift in both analogs with the series X/S controller. why are these feeble, cheap material, mediocre battery life POS controllers so expensive when they get problems on their own just for being used like A CONTROLLER? the ps2 and 3 controllers felt plasticy and cheap but they were durable af, and u could enlist the xbox360 and gamecube controller into the military. back then controllers could have that rattling sound inside and still function like brand new, now they just break for no reason just from being used

Playstation has ALWAYS had spaghetti joysticks.

[sumolagann]

Originally posted by crunchyfrog:

Originally posted by sumolagann:

DS4 controllers are the only controller I like of anything new but the build quality is so bad, it's really irritating. Have to get another one due to the stick spazzing out at random. fixes for awhile if I blow in it, but it's relatively new.

I did attempt to repair the R2 on the last controller with youtube videos, but I couldn't make it function again and the little pieces that come out are too confusing and weird to put back.

Any good solution for someone who doesn't want to open their controller crunchyfrog? I'd also just buy something else or a knockoff if it's the same shape, Dualsense was unusable for me.

You didn't need to buy a new one.

You can easily fix it and here's how bnecause I've done it a number of times to them.

OPen the thing up and get the joystick caps off so you can see the potentiometers. Get an aircan or carefully blow in there to dislodge any of the carbon dust as that's what is the main culprit.

Once you've done that, get yourself some switch cleaner (I always use Servisol as it's as good as the more expensive stuff, though not exactly cheap itself - but it does last for ages). Spray that in those pots and liberally move the joysticks continuously for a couple of minutes. Do it again.

Then put the thing back together and it should be OK. If you still have issues, go back in and repeat, being a bit more diligent.

The last one I did this to was over 18 months ago and it's still holding up strong.

Honestly I had too much trouble trying to take it apart, it wasn't going back together easy and the little pieces coming off the triggers worries me, so I don't really want to attempt on this new one. The other controller had no analog issue, it was the right trigger, and I failed to repair it with a youtube tutorial. The little wire loop piece was confusing, couldn't get it back on right. Wish it stayed together better while opening. I thought it would be easy enough, but it feels like it was not made to be opened at all. appreciate the advice though.

[itzDerrio]

Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

Originally posted by itzDerrio:

Got stick drift on my THIRD ps5 controller, switched to PC and got stick drift in both analogs with the series X/S controller. why are these feeble, cheap material, mediocre battery life POS controllers so expensive when they get problems on their own just for being used like A CONTROLLER? the ps2 and 3 controllers felt plasticy and cheap but they were durable af, and u could enlist the xbox360 and gamecube controller into the military. back then controllers could have that rattling sound inside and still function like brand new, now they just break for no reason just from being used

Playstation has ALWAYS had spaghetti joysticks.

i dont remember the ps2 controllers being pieces of ♥♥♥♥

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by itzDerrio:

Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

Playstation has ALWAYS had spaghetti joysticks.

i dont remember the ps2 controllers being pieces of ♥♥♥♥

They're not.

SOme people just either are dioshonest or shouldn't be talking about things they don't understand.


PS2 controllers are pretty damned robust. They use the same pots are their other rival manufacturers, and there is nothing at the semiconduitor level or design level that shows obvious shortcuts.

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one of the only issues i see with ps2 controllers is the hook ups cause you can't just plug them into usb you need a adapter.

ps3 controllers are also decent but the batteries are starting to go in most of them.

[itzDerrio]

Originally posted by Unicorn - Rainbow Unit:

one of the only issues i see with ps2 controllers is the hook ups cause you can't just plug them into usb you need a adapter.

ps3 controllers are also decent but the batteries are starting to go in most of them.

the ps3 controller still has a better battery than the ps4/ps5 controllers . controllers are overpriced trash now

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100% agree i think i paid like 15 dollars for a ps3 controller, ps4 ones are like 40 dollars and ps5 controllers are over 70, i was recently in a store and they wanted 150 dollars for a controller, it blew my mind.

remember when consoles where expected to give you two controllers when purchasing them and you sometimes got things like light guns or active mats.

I think the LED light on the ps4 and ps5 controllers are why the batteries die so much quicker, also the rumble feature will drain your batteries.

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by Unicorn - Rainbow Unit:

one of the only issues i see with ps2 controllers is the hook ups cause you can't just plug them into usb you need a adapter.

ps3 controllers are also decent but the batteries are starting to go in most of them.

You're not wrong, but thankfully adaptors for PS2s are cheap as chips as there's not much needed to convert them.

Alterntively, it's dead easy to modify original Xbox controllers are they are USB as standard - all you need to do is change the plug on the end. You can easily do this by cutting the plug off and putting a USB connector on yourself, or do as I do and make an adaptor cable so I can use it on either.

As for the PS3 controller battiers - yeah they're dying now as they've come to the end of their life, but those also are easy and cheap to change out. Assuming you even need to as you can still use them in cabled mode.

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by itzDerrio:

Originally posted by Unicorn - Rainbow Unit:

one of the only issues i see with ps2 controllers is the hook ups cause you can't just plug them into usb you need a adapter.

ps3 controllers are also decent but the batteries are starting to go in most of them.

the ps3 controller still has a better battery than the ps4/ps5 controllers . controllers are overpriced trash now

I find the biggest problem with modern controllers is the adding of features that raise the price and yet are rarely used.

Case in point - the PS4 controller touchpad. That really isn't used much in any games and is a gimmick. It's not intuitive at all, and even the loudspeaker isn't really needed either. It would greatly reduce price if they did a version without either of those things on there.

I truly don't understand how they can decide to push these things and raise the price when they cut corners on the pots used for the analogue joysticks.

[itzDerrio]

Originally posted by crunchyfrog:

Originally posted by itzDerrio:

the ps3 controller still has a better battery than the ps4/ps5 controllers . controllers are overpriced trash now

I find the biggest problem with modern controllers is the adding of features that raise the price and yet are rarely used.

Case in point - the PS4 controller touchpad. That really isn't used much in any games and is a gimmick. It's not intuitive at all, and even the loudspeaker isn't really needed either. It would greatly reduce price if they did a version without either of those things on there.

I truly don't understand how they can decide to push these things and raise the price when they cut corners on the pots used for the analogue joysticks.

because casuals and kids make them the most money i guess

[Karumati]

Originally posted by crunchyfrog:

Originally posted by itzDerrio:

the ps3 controller still has a better battery than the ps4/ps5 controllers . controllers are overpriced trash now

I find the biggest problem with modern controllers is the adding of features that raise the price and yet are rarely used.

Case in point - the PS4 controller touchpad. That really isn't used much in any games and is a gimmick. It's not intuitive at all, and even the loudspeaker isn't really needed either. It would greatly reduce price if they did a version without either of those things on there.

I truly don't understand how they can decide to push these things and raise the price when they cut corners on the pots used for the analogue joysticks.

modern controllers are much more comfortable in hands

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Originally posted by Karumati:

modern controllers are much more comfortable in hands

depends on hands :) I prefer old PS controllers because they lay comfortably in my palm and not too heavy. xbox type controllers are too bulky for my female hands.

[Karumati]

Originally posted by <<---{!}--->>:

Originally posted by Karumati:

modern controllers are much more comfortable in hands

depends on hands :) I prefer old PS controllers because they lay comfortably in my palm and not too heavy. xbox type controllers are too bulky for my female hands.

I have small hands too, but i like new controllers a lot more.