What's the big secret about the gaming community that nobody in the community will tell you?

[Punk Rubber Riley]

I hear a lot of talk in my circles on Youtube about how the companies are all evil, and the "consumers" are always being mistreated! Hogwash I tell you! I have a slight feeling that the community is also full of bull! What's the silent part that every person in this community knows (or lack there of) but won't say?

[DarkCrystalMethod]

All the kiddos want the best games evar but right now and completely for free.
Devs can't sustain that level of creativity nor charge nothing for all their hard work.
They're ruining the industry for everybody.

[Punk Rubber Riley]

Publicado originalmente por DarkCrystalMethod:

All the kiddos want the best games evar but right now and completely for free.
Devs can't sustain that level of creativity nor charge nothing for all their hard work.
They're ruining the industry for everybody.

Do you know why it's like this if true?

[Tito Shivan]

As someone said: "It takes two to tango"

[feytharn]

The 'secret'? There are billions of 'gamers' from many different countries and cultures, with different backgrounds and different expectations. A group of that size is not a community, nor do they have more in common than the fact that they play some kind of video games.

The secret is: There is no one 'gaming community'.

[Volfogg]

Internal conflict in communities. People will always want to tear each other apart, that's natural way of things.

[lailaamell]

Every gamer secretly hates some games soley for someone else like it

[Ender]

"What's the big secret about the gaming community that nobody in the community will tell you?"

There is No MoDeRn AuDiEnCe in The Gaming Community

[yeeck]

The big secret is... it is just another entertainment community?

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

I remember when Reality TV viewers made fun of Gamers but RTV is far more toxic and brain rotting.

[Wasted]

I'd love to tell you but it's a secret, sorry.

[D. Flame]

It's just part of the cycle.

{START}

1.) Gaming is niche, but decently profitable. Companies make good games, and gamers are happy to pay for them.

2.) Game companies start getting greedier and greedier.

3.) Companies decided to focus on a wider audience over their loyal base.

4.) Core game audiences are alienated in the process.

5.) Turns out that the "wider audience" have no interest in purchasing anything to begin with.

6.) The industry suffers (e.g., Studios close left and right, Big Budget flops in the headlines, mass layoffs).

7.) Game industry realizes it screwed up, and it refocuses on a more targeted audience.

Return to: {START}

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It has happened multiple times before, and it is happening again.

Atari 2600, video gaming almost died when the ET flop happened. Nintendo brought it back from the brink with the NES.

PS3/Wii had a shift towards casual gamers. It made them a huge short term profit, but casual gamers are also the "we have X game at home" crowd, meaning not a good source of repeat customers. FS brought it back with Demon's Souls, but not immediately. It was so bad that Sony passed on publishing DS in the west because they were convinced that it would flop. Now Soulslikes are their own genre.

Flops like Concord just show that companies are once again pandering to people who are not interested in buying anything.

[Punk Rubber Riley]

Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:

It's just part of the cycle.

{START}

1.) Gaming is niche, but decently profitable. Companies make good games, and gamers are happy to pay for them.

2.) Game companies start getting greedier and greedier.

3.) Companies decided to focus on a wider audience over their loyal base.

4.) Core game audiences are alienated in the process.

5.) Turns out that the "wider audience" have no interest in purchasing anything to begin with.

6.) The industry suffers (e.g., Studios close left and right, Big Budget flops in the headlines, mass layoffs).

7.) Game industry realizes it screwed up, and it refocuses on a more targeted audience.

Return to: {START}

======================================================================

It has happened multiple times before, and it is happening again.

Atari 2600, video gaming almost died when the ET flop happened. Nintendo brought it back from the brink with the NES.

PS3/Wii had a shift towards casual gamers. It made them a huge short term profit, but casual gamers are also the "we have X game at home" crowd, meaning not a good source of repeat customers. FS brought it back with Demon's Souls, but not immediately. It was so bad that Sony passed on publishing DS in the west because they were convinced that it would flop. Now Soulslikes are their own genre.

Flops like Concord just show that companies are once again pandering to people who are not interested in buying anything.

Ouch!!!! Hopefully they learn to stop shooting themselves in the foot! seriously, gaming is supposed to be a good time, I don't understand why so many people are just complaining and focusing on the latest drama, like all of a sudden people think that tabloids are just the second coming of Christ! Also, I completely forgot what this thread was about, so you can take my points anyway!

[Punk Rubber Riley]

Also, why did two people in this thread get banned? Maybe I shouldn't be listening to people after all!

[Kargor]

Publicado originalmente por Punk Rubber Riley:

I hear a lot of talk in my circles on Youtube about how the companies are all evil, and the "consumers" are always being mistreated! Hogwash I tell you! I have a slight feeling that the community is also full of bull! What's the silent part that every person in this community knows (or lack there of) but won't say?

Isn't that obvious? They are putting puzzles into the games to solve mysterious research problems for secret military branches.

[miakisfan]

Publicado originalmente por Punk Rubber Riley:

I hear a lot of talk in my circles on Youtube about how the companies are all evil, and the "consumers" are always being mistreated! Hogwash I tell you! I have a slight feeling that the community is also full of bull! What's the silent part that every person in this community knows (or lack there of) but won't say?

There is a give and take here that your *friends on Youtube* aren't telling you.

Any time I hear someone blame something on just one side in gaming I automatically remind myself they are just as much to blame for what is happening with gaming in general.

Gamers always want more for their buck but aren't willing to admit that might be just as big a problem as those *greedy companies*.

Until both sides come to the realization that there is limitations with all things that go with gaming, i.e. OS, more data equals more chances for bugs, etc. the problems will continue.

You have to find a happy place for everyone and that rarely works out with the human factor involved.