When is the last time you bought something from Steam ?

[Fall2YrDoom]

O excuse me, I meant rent .. I know it's been a long long time.. Thing's have not changed so I will continue with purchases elsewhere.. I still get all the mods and everything steam offers besides the little kiddie Achievements thing. All in all I hope Steam changes there policy and give back our purchasing power.. Anyway what was your last game you bought ?? curious as to what people play these days for FUN..

[Fall2YrDoom]

Big mistake, you have no purchase power anymore, all games on PC are now rentals, you do not own the rights to it. You can not sell the game here.

[rawWwRrr]

Originalmente postado por Fall2YrDoom:

Big mistake, you have no purchase power anymore, all games on PC are now rentals, you do not own the rights to it.

We own a license that grants us the right to download, install, and play a copy of the game, which has been the rights we've always enjoyed. Reseling games was always a loophole to those licenses because you had physical possession of the disc copy, but the license agreement still didn't allow you to resell it. Just because we got away with it didnt make it legal.

And we've never owned games, only licenses to use a copy of the game. Ownership of a game implies you are the developer or publisher which we are not.

[Fall2YrDoom]

Try and sell a game ??? At least before we could get back some of our money, not anymore.. Do I have to spell it out for you, You have no purchase power here...

[Fall2YrDoom]

You know what purchase power or ownership rights means right ?

[Haruspex]

Originalmente postado por Fall2YrDoom:

Big mistake, you have no purchase power anymore, all games on PC are now rentals, you do not own the rights to it. You can not sell the game here.

I understand what you're advocating for, and I understand why. I also understand that it will never happen, and I'm personally comfortable with that.

The days of physical game ownership on PC have been left behind a long time ago. About 17 years ago or so. That's when I would mark the shift. Steam was about 4 years old and hit it's stride. The PC game section of stores went from an entire aisle to a single 4 foot section, and the only games there were seek and find, match 3, and usually The Sims and World of Warcraft.

Console is following suit. Already digital outsells physical. They're releasing consoles without optical disk drives at all. Some physical releases are just digital releases in disguise, either containing just a key, or being a disk without the game data, requiring you to download the game. Big retailers like Walmart and Target are phasing out their physical game sections.

I will be surprised if the next generation of consoles, the PS6 and Xbox whatever isn't 100% digital.

[Pierce Dalton]

Originalmente postado por Haruspex:

Originalmente postado por Fall2YrDoom:

Big mistake, you have no purchase power anymore, all games on PC are now rentals, you do not own the rights to it. You can not sell the game here.

I understand what you're advocating for, and I understand why. I also understand that it will never happen, and I'm personally comfortable with that.

The days of physical game ownership on PC have been left behind a long time ago. About 17 years ago or so. That's when I would mark the shift. Steam was about 4 years old and hit it's stride. The PC game section of stores went from an entire aisle to a single 4 foot section, and the only games there were seek and find, match 3, and usually The Sims and World of Warcraft.

Console is following suit. Already digital outsells physical. They're releasing consoles without optical disk drives at all. Some physical releases are just digital releases in disguise, either containing just a key, or being a disk without the game data, requiring you to download the game. Big retailers like Walmart and Target are phasing out their physical game sections.

I will be surprised if the next generation of consoles, the PS6 and Xbox whatever isn't 100% digital.

Next step is doing to games what they did to movies...

[Haruspex]

Originalmente postado por Pierce Dalton:

Next step is doing to games what they did to movies...

Yeah, I see the writing on the wall there. Timed exclusivity deals. Subscription services. Streaming.

At least for AAA games. I'm going to hold out as long as I can. Plenty of smaller releases and indies to enjoy without having to worry about it... for now at least.

[Fall2YrDoom]

I don't like how the little guy working for them get's the brunt of the force so I spend 20$ now and then.

[Fall2YrDoom]

Sorry up to 40$ I have spent 40$ on a game here..

[crunchyfrog]

Digital games are always effectively "rented".

Why did you not realise this? Don't blame Steam for this as all digital platofmr s are the same and you should price accordingly.

Honestly, the weird way people think amazes me.

[crunchyfrog]

Originalmente postado por Haruspex:

Originalmente postado por Pierce Dalton:

Next step is doing to games what they did to movies...

Yeah, I see the writing on the wall there. Timed exclusivity deals. Subscription services. Streaming.

At least for AAA games. I'm going to hold out as long as I can. Plenty of smaller releases and indies to enjoy without having to worry about it... for now at least.

There's plenty to go round though.

I've said it many times. I've been around since the start of gaming and still keep and play all my old systems and games. I enjoy them all. There's two periods I deem the golden ages - one was the explosion of the earyl 1980s. The other was the PS2 era.

But this is the first era where I haven't bothered buying a new console (except the Switch). Because there's nothing of interest exclusively on the PS5 or Xbox.

Because triple A is utter crap and they've painted themselves into a corner of ballooning costs that has made them too afraid to gamble resources so they make safe, pap, and banal trend chasing awfulness.

But there's plenty in the indie space thankfully. So I go there.

[Start_Running]

Originalmente postado por Fall2YrDoom:

Sorry up to 40$ I have spent 40$ on a game here..

I have never spent even half as much ion a single game and it baffles me that you can.

Originalmente postado por crunchyfrog:

Digital games are always effectively "rented".

Why did you not realise this? Don't blame Steam for this as all digital platofmr s are the same and you should price accordingly.

Honestly, the weird way people think amazes me.

I mean. I understood that when I signed up for GoG and Steam, and Battle.net. And II have no regrets or misgivings. I mean The fact that my owned game library went from 30 or so to over 1K says that this has worked out well for me. I can't eveb uinmagine how I;'d store physical copies of all them games

[crunchyfrog]

Originalmente postado por Start_Running:

Originalmente postado por Fall2YrDoom:

Sorry up to 40$ I have spent 40$ on a game here..

I have never spent even half as much ion a single game and it baffles me that you can.

Originalmente postado por crunchyfrog:

Digital games are always effectively "rented".

Why did you not realise this? Don't blame Steam for this as all digital platofmr s are the same and you should price accordingly.

Honestly, the weird way people think amazes me.

I mean. I understood that when I signed up for GoG and Steam, and Battle.net. And II have no regrets or misgivings. I mean The fact that my owned game library went from 30 or so to over 1K says that this has worked out well for me. I can't eveb uinmagine how I;'d store physical copies of all them games

Yup it's a really simple formula I worked out back then.

When I first bought my Xbox, I realised that digital distribution meant I didn't get a physical copy and was therefore down to how long the service lasts, or the hard drive. So I budgeted accordingly.

To me, I always prefer physical. Mostly because I still play all my games, so that's MY metric. So according to this, I adjusted the price I would be willing to pay for it, as it is still a bit of a gamble.

It's a really easy and straightforward premis, so I don't get why people can't grasp it.

And no, likewise I never spend more than about £15 on any game regardless of physical or digital.

[N3tRunn3r]

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