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nitramyar.rm 26 kwietnia 2023 o 20:16
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Windows 7/8 users being shafted by Steam policy
I have just seen the notification that Steam will cease operating on Windows 7 and 8 after January 2024. This, in my opinion, is an absolutely disgusting way to treat many, many Steam users. Like countless others, I decided long ago that the Windows, especially 10 and onwards, had become resource hungry bloatware that is more interested in spying on users than providing a stable OS.
I have contentedly used Windows 7 for years with no problems, and to sell out your users like this in the name of "security" considerations is just garbage. Just yesterday I purchased a new game, that will now apparently be useless in eight months. I don't have the option to simply upgrade as you people so arrogantly suggest, since I am a retiree who cannot afford a new overpriced OS, as well as a new PC that will run it.
Will Steam be refunding the full price of all the software that I (and hundreds of thousand of others) have purchased, that will soon be arbitrarily snatched away? You are telling us that software we have purchased with hard earned money, that resides on our computers, will cease to function simply because you have made an executive decision to make a deliberate change to cause such a thing. That is what I would call theft.
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Godspeedhero 26 kwietnia 2023 o 20:25 
It really does suck.
Spawn of Totoro 26 kwietnia 2023 o 20:29 
Ubuntu is free, as well as many other Linux distributions.

Valve has to update the software that Steam uses. One of those happen to be Chromium and they dropped support for Window 7 and 8 in January of this year. Valve waiting to update Steam until a year latter, in order to give users time to update or find an alternative OS.

Yes, it sucks, but that is how it has always been with technology.
Iron Knights 26 kwietnia 2023 o 20:32 
How about a Refund or make all purchased items DRM Free, aka run without steam ?
I will uninstall steam Yesterday, if they do that and give me the good .exe files.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Iron Knights; 26 kwietnia 2023 o 20:32
how do you think win98, xp, and vista users feel

steam dropped support for them too
DarkCrystalMethod 26 kwietnia 2023 o 20:58 
Birthdays happen every year. Certainly a family member knows your situation and can spring for a new license for Windows10.
And if you have your license for Win7 just use it in the install of Win10(Microsoft still allows it) and that costs nothing. I only worry about your older hardware not being able to run it.
Stiletto 26 kwietnia 2023 o 21:18 
What sickens me is that the push from Window 7 to 10/11 has been so much more aggressive than it ever was going from XP to 7 or from 98 to XP. It's one thing to release new software that doesn't support older operating systems, so you need to buy the newer OS to play the newest applications or games. But Steam is a platform that provides an insane amount of access to games from as far back as the 1980s. There's no reason that Steam should require the latest operating system to run games that weren't even designed to run on that operating system.

If they do this, EVERY game not created for Windows 10 should be made DRM-free. Or there should be a stripped-down client for older OSes that still allow their customers to access their purchases. In my opinion, the key reason for this is because Chrome started the trend of locking out those who don't upgrade. Steam seems to be wagering that the people who refuse to upgrade will not be enough of a deterrent to merit the development of a "Steam basic", and considering how frequently their terms and conditions change, I'm sure they planned for this. Nonetheless, I predict there will be a lawsuit or two and they're deserved.

Do not sell people 45 year old games then turn around and tell them what operating system to use.
SLG 26 kwietnia 2023 o 21:22 
Upgrading your Windows do not cost you money. There was free updates to upgrade from 7 to 8/8.1 and 10.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: SLG; 26 kwietnia 2023 o 21:23
DarkCrystalMethod 26 kwietnia 2023 o 21:24 
I wonder where the MacOS X only and Linux only games are
The End 26 kwietnia 2023 o 21:34 
Początkowo opublikowane przez nitramyar.rm:
II have just seen the notification that Steam will cease operating on Windows 7 and 8 after January 2024.
Other platforms will do the same.
Upgrade to Windows 10 and if you have the HW to windows 11 go for that.
Windows 11 have a lot of nice features. Just look at "Linux Windows Subsystem" a really nice feature IMO.

Take the dive and get the latest Windows your system support.
Iron Knights 26 kwietnia 2023 o 22:06 
Początkowo opublikowane przez DarkCrystalMethod:
Birthdays happen every year. Certainly a family member knows your situation and can spring for a new license for Windows10.
And if you have your license for Win7 just use it in the install of Win10(Microsoft still allows it) and that costs nothing. I only worry about your older hardware not being able to run it.
I don't WANT Win 10, I don't NEED Win 10. You do need a license for Win 10, the free offer expired after year 1 release.
Iron Knights 26 kwietnia 2023 o 22:10 
Oh, I love Linux, but they're ♥♥♥♥ at gaming, they're cool and most apps. free for office or work related tasks. Have app. manager installers. You can be the noob and run the best Windows like GUI or you can be the Master, sitting on that black console, sending command lines away. (middle ground is the guy who knows just enough to ♥♥♥♥ up Linux, danger)
KalGimpa 26 kwietnia 2023 o 22:18 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Iron Knights:
Oh, I love Linux, but they're ♥♥♥♥ at gaming, they're cool and most apps. free for office or work related tasks. Have app. manager installers. You can be the noob and run the best Windows like GUI or you can be the Master, sitting on that black console, sending command lines away. (middle ground is the guy who knows just enough to ♥♥♥♥ up Linux, danger)


nope

so far, not a one of my games cannot be played on linux

i do not like win 10 and have been using linux as my full time gaming for a bit now

dual boot and try it before bashing, as running linux through the command lines has not been a thing for quite some time
Iron Knights 26 kwietnia 2023 o 22:51 
Dual boot ruined my Win 7 MBR twice. Never Again.
Wine is a soros (hungarian) idea of "windows compatibility".
Make my computer run my games in Linux and I'll believe it, till then, NOT.
Console command is a real thing for Linux users that don't like GUI and not gaming.
KalGimpa 26 kwietnia 2023 o 23:01 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Iron Knights:
Dual boot ruined my Win 7 MBR twice. Never Again.
Wine is a soros (hungarian) idea of "windows compatibility".
Make my computer run my games in Linux and I'll believe it, till then, NOT.
Console command is a real thing for Linux users that don't like GUI and not gaming.


i know what it is

you say it like it is a requirement or you will jack up your pc

it is not and you will not

again, not sure when the last time you tried it was, but i have my 70+ year old dad using a linux computer, and he has no troubles at all

no clue what you did to ruin your dual boot, but it is a simple process that can be run completely by the installer

again, something i have done many times, when playing around with the different distros

and whatever proton has done to make wine run so smoothly, i do not know, but it is running everything in my library, including mmo's like gw2, eso, dcuo and others

if you are not willing to try, that is on you, but valve has given people a choice and completely opened gaming on linux
little_tree_ash 26 kwietnia 2023 o 23:09 
Początkowo opublikowane przez SLGray:
Upgrading your Windows do not cost you money. There was free updates to upgrade from 7 to 8/8.1 and 10.
Upgrading your windows does cost you money, the new hardware to run the newer windows costs even more! My current PC is better then most off the shelf, but its hardware is unable to support windows 10/11.
It's just luck that I've been putting some money aside to replace components, but It's still going to take until december to buy it all because it requires windows 11 to support the software the hardware needs.
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