Ban Cyanide

[senillosa]

Older PCM games no longer work because cyanide has disabled the activation keys.

Complaints from players are not receive answer.
Or for some, have advertisements for the new cyanide games as an answer.

This is a scam.

Please remove cyanide from steam store, I don't know about you but stealing is not legal in my country.

[ShelLuser]

Can you share any actual examples? Because just flinging around accusations isn't exactly going to help your case.

When looking for Cyanide studios I found several older games:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/216910/Of_Orcs_And_Men/
That one is over 10 years old. Not sure what you mean with PCM but according to the game's community hub there are still players having fun with this.

Out of all the games made by Cyanide studios this is the oldest.

[ShelLuser]

Sorry for a double post but I discovered what OP means. As usual it's easy to fling around wild accusations while you have no clue what you're talking about.

Pro Cycling Manager was developed by Cyanide studios, that part is true. But it's actually from the Nacom franchise. Nacom is the one which published the game, and thus also takes care of licensing.

I dug up even older games... before Nacom it was Focus entertainment which released these games.

You need to talk about the publisher, not the developer.

But even in the PCM 2017 hub I see nothing that collaborates your accusations.

(edit)

Found it... the overwhelming complaints turned out to be one single thread in the PCM 2014 hub. Only 30 minutes old ;)

[senillosa]

There aren't many good PCMs on sale, the last good PCM was 2015 and it was also the most played PCM since 2012.

If you go to the 2015 forum you will see that I am not the only one complaining.

If you go to the forums much more used by the community like daily, the grupetto, PCM france you will see that the complainers are very numerous.

The fact that PCM 12 and 15 are the ones that bug while they are among the most appreciated is certainly not a coincidence and our suspicions are confirmed when we receive ads for PCM 22 and 23.

As for the war between focus and nacon, we don't really care, on steam PCM 2015 is sold on the Cyanide store page, not focus.

[Crazy Tiger]

You can report the game through the store page. On the right a bit down the page is a flag. Click it and report it.

I don't agree that Cyanide should be banned from Steam. Just about all of their games work without issue. This is, indeed, an issue with the publisher. And yeah, the publisher needs to rectify it

Originally posted by senillosa:

As for the war between focus and nacon, we don't really care, on steam PCM 2015 is sold on the Cyanide store page, not focus.

And yet the game is linked on the store page to the publisher as well, which is Focus Home Interactive.

[Ettanin]

Simply report the game as broken, stating that the activation system has been shut down, and if you bought it, request a refund.

[captainwiseass]

Why do so many gamers think they're entitled to a pound of flesh over a faulty consumer product?

[davidb11]

Originally posted by captainwiseass:

Why do so many gamers think they're entitled to a pound of flesh over a faulty consumer product?

Also, why do they act like they committed War Crimes or the Armenian Genocide?
That's what I want to know.

Like War Criminals get less flack from people for their crimes than gamers do for the most random things.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Cyanide games are working.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Originally posted by captainwiseass:

Why do so many gamers think they're entitled to a pound of flesh over a faulty consumer product?

In fairness, if the publisher disables game keys after its bought legitimately, thats a bannable from Steam level offense.

I dont know if the OP is correct or not but this is extremely shady from the description and worth looking into by Valve.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Originally posted by AmsterdamHeavy:

Originally posted by captainwiseass:

Why do so many gamers think they're entitled to a pound of flesh over a faulty consumer product?

In fairness, if the publisher disables game keys after its bought legitimately, thats a bannable from Steam level offense.

I dont know if the OP is correct or not but this is extremely shady from the description and worth looking into by Valve.

After it is legitimately bought on Steam. Keys revoked from games not bought on Steam do not count as a bannable offense. There have been a few illegal mass revocations these past two weeks and Steam Valve refuses to investigate.

[senillosa]

Finally people who say true and intelligent things.

Yes I bought the game on steam; Purchased on: Sep 10, 2016 at 9:05pm
And yes the keys have been disabled.

For the moment I have done as advised by a player above, I have reported the game with the little flag in the store, I hope steam will do what is necessary, either force cyanide to reactivate the keys or kick them out of the store.

[Lokiator]

Originally posted by senillosa:

For the moment I have done as advised by a player above, I have reported the game with the little flag in the store, I hope steam will do what is necessary, either force cyanide to reactivate the keys or kick them out of the store.

That's the correct action, except for the fact that it's the publisher, not the developer that is at fault. Cyanide is a developer, not a publisher.

It's an identical situation to books: An author writes a book, but rarely publishes it themselves. They usually send their book to publishing companies to find someone to take care of the printing, distribution, sales, etc. The publisher bears all that cost and pays a royalty back to the author.

So in your situation, it's the publisher that is in charge of distributing keys and, in rare cases, revoking them.

[senillosa]

At the time this game was released, Cyanide was neither at Focus nor at Nacon, so it was Cyanide that sold this game by self-publishing.

Focus has stopped editing PCMs as of 2014.
They edited the Tour de France series but not PCM.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by senillosa:

At the time this game was released, Cyanide was neither at Focus nor at Nacon, so it was Cyanide that sold this game by self-publishing.

Focus has stopped editing PCMs as of 2014.
They edited the Tour de France series but not PCM.

That's not true. Focus was the publisher of PCM until Cyanide got purchased by Big Ben (now named Nacon) in 2018.

[senillosa]

No, when we go to Focus they clearly say they stopped the PCM Edition after the PCM 2014.

But maybe that's the problem.
Since Cynide is no longer with Focus, nobody publishes the game anymore.