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While indeed you get to own a lot of games over the years, there are thousands of games, many of them worthy of being part of a gamers collection, and a lot of new ones released weekly.
I personally would like a return to the sales of old, with the flash sales, daily sales, community votes, even mini games during the event. Remember that tiny broken game on the front page in the Chrismas sale two years ago? That was fun, even if broken, and people got involved. Also, with all these timed sales, you felt an incentive to come on Steam and see what's cool for sale a few times per day, to not miss a great deal, and it was fun when you bought something good.
And overall the deals weren't that attractive anymore in previous sales. I've seen in the past some games during sales at -75%, -80%, but in recent sales at -50%, 40%, -66%. Its a weird trend to see older games with worse sales.
And you know, in the past, a lot of games were on these small sales during the whole event, and the flash deals made the difference. Now its like the outer layer of daily/8 hour/ flash deals was removed, and only the layer below remained.
Did you notice that as well?
Judging by the sales figures during those sales, people don't seem to care, despite the "complaints". Valve is selling just as much as they were before (if not more) and if sales are not going down...
I know I've bought more during the new sales, then I did with the old ones.
https://www.destructoid.com/this-is-what-the-modern-warfare-2-boycotters-are-playing-154944.phtml
Note that people SAY a lot of things. But very often their actions do not correlate to their vocalized intent.
https://youtu.be/f_2sGk7Uwe8?t=2094
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/LarsDoucet/20160205/265285/Why_I_trust_Valves_judgment_on_Seasonal_Sales.php
Apparently this isn't impacting people's ability to purchase games and isn't impacting how well those games are selling.
Remember to not mistake the 'vocal minority' as the 'everyone'. Anecdotes isnt data.
I am absolutely certain that the sales have changed for the worse since then, with lacklustre deals, half-hearted themes and a total absence of that 'must check the sale' feeling.
As I say, I have only been on Steam for about 3 years, and that isn't sufficient time that I would be remembering the old sales through rose tinted glasses, and having seen these '...are the Steam sales getting worse' threads consistently popping up around the major sales periods, feel that this should be telling Valve something, particularly since those threads tend to be very active.
That said, money talks and bullshi.... well... you know the rest, and there is little incentive for Steam to change anything when its sales figures (over the sale periods) remain so high.
I would LOVE for the old style sales to return and have that excitement about checking the latest deals 'just in case' that game I wanted was on a good offer, but if this coming sale is anything like the last couple, I'll check it from time to time, but my spending will be as 'uninspired' as the theming & discounts have been over the last few 'BIG' (sic) Steam events.
As to the comments made by Saturo earlier that suggest the problem.... :
...is that EVERYTHING IS ON SALE 24/7/365 somewhere on the Internet
Humble runs no less than like 3-5 bundles a week
Indie Gala runs new bundles basically every day
Every digital store on teh planet now runs seasonal sales
Sales are literally now the 'background noise'. We're desensitized to them. They're bombarding us constantly from all sides and all stores...
... I would say this;
Surely that 'fact' should provide incentive for Steam to make their sales as dynamic, varied and exciting as possible?
When I first joined Steam, I rarely even bothered (perhaps naively) checking other sites, as the deals they offered during the sales were so good that I would end up with 30 or 40 new games in my catalogue everytime they did a 'big' seasonal event.
Now I check competitor sites every time, and in point of fact, it has become rare for me to buy my games from Steam at all, as their pricing is just no longer competitive.
During the last big sales event they did, I bought (excluding gifts for friends) about 4 or 5 games and felt utterly indifferent to the fact the sale was on within about 3 days of it starting.
At the end of the day, I know I'm not entitled to discounted games... but I really would love to get excited by the Steam sales again and hopefully, this time round, they will really pull something out of the bag! :)
But the other problem there is that 'we' are basically the minority. We are the equivalent of the coupon clippers that buy 1 metric ton of cereal for $1 by doing 5000 transactions over the span of 3 days. We knew all the 'rules'. We were the 'in crowd'
And that's really the flip side of things. What a lot of people rae lamenting is really that they don't feel 'special' because they don't have that insider knowledge. Thta they are 'special' because they know how to game the system. We laugh when someone says "waah why is this game on sale I just bought it" "ahah idiot! always wait for a flash sale!" A lot of if is now the fact that basically everyone is on equal footing rather than there being a gap because we 'know' how it works vs a new user.
Then there's the other side from the developer perpsective. Even if we ignore the whole refund thing. The various mechanisms had a wierd dynamic going with developers. Aka how do I price my sale? Devs know the only way to really get traffic is to be on the store page. the only way to be on the store page before, was to be hand picked by valve. This means you have to choose how much to discount your game, such that its appealing to be picked. This means EVERYONE was racing to give the lowest possible discount not because it was warranted, but because it was the only way to even remotely ensure that your game was selected for curation. This has only become more and more of an issue because as more titles are added to steam discoverability is the mai nproblem. Which mean steeper discounts just to be 'seen'
The main issue now with Steam is discoverability. How do you find something you like. That's really where Staem is concentrating their efforts with regards to sales. Combining both curated titles to feature, but mixing that in with their discovery queue. This means devs can discount ttiles without having to firesale the hell out of them, but still get seen by people durin the sale.
Ultimately every system benefits some people and not others. Thta dynamic shifts over time as Steam tries out differnt things and as different problems come up with Steam's growth.
Yeah, how bad of us that we want Valve to respect and adhere to laws in our countries, how dare we demand such a thing, we really deserve to be punished for that...
Did they teach you those company lines before turning you into a mod? And how did people "abuse sales events"? By buying games at the cheaper prices or by using autoclickers for stupid clicker games?
I'm fine with the way the sales are now. It's nice not to have to worry about missing sales all the time. The only thing that could be worked on is the sales percentages, but I'm not surprised that was disappointing in the first few sales since flash sales were dropped. Publishers are probably trying to fond a decent median between what used to be the week percentage and the short flash sales.
Personally I was expecting to see some games simply not be part of the week sale and only be on sale one day for a deeper percentage, but we'll see what people will come up with.
There are still few countries with laws that even specifically address digital products let alone in the circumstances where it actually matters, and probably even less countries where you can go to the counter and return your used PC game after having bought it. (since tons of them are 'consumable' these days)
You were never ever legally entitled to refunds in the EU.
There is a 14 day span to walk back from every buying agreement without the need to give any reasons. You should better check your facts...
Btw exactly that's the reason why you can get a refund only in the first two weeks after you bought the game...
Maybe you're too bored with your life so you call that fun.
I call that headache.
Just give me some games on sale.
I'll look at whether I want to buy them.
I'll check my wishlist.
If I want to buy something, I will.
If I don't want to buy something, NO AMOUNT OF MAKING ME VISIT THE FRONT PAGE WILL CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE.
This is 1000% WRONG.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8620-QYAL-4516
As per EU law, you may forefeit your right of refusal at the time of purchase. When you click that SSA checkbox, you legally waive your rights to a refund. THIS IS 100% LEGAL AND IS ENFORCED BY EU LAW.
Steam has never ever been legally obligated to offer EU residents a refund. The EU says they don't have to. The EU made that legal.
People love to claim things but never actually look at the relevant law to see if what they 'think' is actually true
The Steam Refund Policy is entirely separate from the EU law. Steam is not legally obligated to give you a refund. You waive that right the instant you buy a game and it appears in your inventory.
That's why good sales are important to me, and the flash sales that had better deals were important for my collection, to buy games I wouldn't have bought otherwise. Good for me, the consumer, and the developers.