diablo like games with a few necessities.

[eqalidan]

ok, I know of and own most of the big diablo like games, however its been a while since i played one and cant remember the details for each one.

Im looking to go into one and play a character up, but I don't really feel like playing a game that encourages/requires trading, one of the things I didnt like about diablo 1/2 was rare item drops, as in the uniques that were the best you could get and rare/magic would not get an rngesus blessed roll and be better, had drop chances of 1 in a billion to one in 10 trillion (I beleive there is a bow with that drop chance, there was an article around the time where 1 in a trillion was to large a drop rate and there were 10 in game so they upped the drop rate to 10 trillion)

I want to, with in reason, be solo self farm and not feel like im getting ♥♥♥♥♥♥ on drops.

[Neomerlinux]

zaphodikus eredeti hozzászólása:

Anyone know if
https://store.steampowered.com/app/345180/Victor_Vran_ARPG/
is actually as much fun as it looks?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/462290/Victor_Vran_Mtorhead_Through_The_Ages/

Need I say more?

[crunchyfrog]

zaphodikus eredeti hozzászólása:

Anyone know if
https://store.steampowered.com/app/345180/Victor_Vran_ARPG/
is actually as much fun as it looks?

Yes, it is.

It's frankly better than The Van Helsing games and I rather like them. It's more fluid and a bit more cohesive too.

It's more of a slightly linear path than something like Diablo (well, I';m more referring to Diablo 3 and the end game content), but it's still well worth the cash.

[eqalidan]

Neomerlinux eredeti hozzászólása:

So, what about Borderlands or Hellgate? You didn't specify that the RPG couldnt be in first person mode - they both are (Hellgate can be played in 3rd person, if you wish). I love both of these series for the Diablo-esqe item system and leveling.

borderlands 1 had a fairly good powerscale
borderlands 2 demands you play the game 1 specific way and no other way works passed level 40 and the exponential growth sees a white drop overpowering legionaries around that level when they are 1, maybe 2 levels apart.
borderlands 3, I have no idea, I played an hour or so on a free weekend and just got it though humble,

hellgate, while I can enjoy playing it, its a hot mess of a game

and yes, I don't care about the style of game be first person/over shoulder/top down/new/old what I am specifically looking for is just a game that takes the diablo style idea of looting, and hopefully has a level of rng that makes every item that drops potentially a best in slot, not just 'I need boots of the quick blacksmith because only those boots have an effect that synergises with the bandit ass stabber'

I honestly dont find games like these fun when they take out the element of any item can be great and instead force sets or legendaries to be the end game because at that point its no longer fun to loot anything, you effectively kill off even wanting to pick up 3-4 tiers of items

zaphodikus eredeti hozzászólása:

Anyone know if
https://store.steampowered.com/app/345180/Victor_Vran_ARPG/
is actually as much fun as it looks?

it has been a long time since I played it, if I remember right it plays like a diablo style game with more flexibility in the movement. its worth picking up on sale if you like the genre, but i dont remember its replayability or continuted play passed the story

[Neomerlinux]

eqalidan eredeti hozzászólása:

Neomerlinux eredeti hozzászólása:

So, what about Borderlands or Hellgate? You didn't specify that the RPG couldnt be in first person mode - they both are (Hellgate can be played in 3rd person, if you wish). I love both of these series for the Diablo-esqe item system and leveling.

borderlands 1 had a fairly good powerscale
borderlands 2 demands you play the game 1 specific way and no other way works passed level 40 and the exponential growth sees a white drop overpowering legionaries around that level when they are 1, maybe 2 levels apart.
borderlands 3, I have no idea, I played an hour or so on a free weekend and just got it though humble,

hellgate, while I can enjoy playing it, its a hot mess of a game

and yes, I don't care about the style of game be first person/over shoulder/top down/new/old what I am specifically looking for is just a game that takes the diablo style idea of looting, and hopefully has a level of rng that makes every item that drops potentially a best in slot, not just 'I need boots of the quick blacksmith because only those boots have an effect that synergises with the bandit ass stabber'

I honestly dont find games like these fun when they take out the element of any item can be great and instead force sets or legendaries to be the end game because at that point its no longer fun to loot anything, you effectively kill off even wanting to pick up 3-4 tiers of items

Umm, i just go pew pew and smash smash and then stuff goes kaching. I don't read what skills do, or items. In games like this, I allways pick the items with the most "magic find" bonus and don't look into anything else. Then i go back to the pew pew and smash smash to find more bling bling.

[zaphodikus]

^^ sometimes this is all I want, mindless drops and the caching sound of gold Diablo did that well in the 1st game even.

Sometimes I want finesse, personally much more into solid RPG's with party based combat, but personally I found Borderlands very slow, so I guess you cannot please everyone all of the time. But choices do seem to be few lately, goign to grab a copy of Victor Vran at any rate.

[Kargor]

UberFiend eredeti hozzászólása:

zaphodikus eredeti hozzászólása:

^^ sometimes this is all I want, mindless drops and the caching sound of gold

https://store.steampowered.com/app/258970/Gauntlet_Slayer_Edition/

It "lacks" the loot.

[crunchyfrog]

UberFiend eredeti hozzászólása:

zaphodikus eredeti hozzászólása:

^^ sometimes this is all I want, mindless drops and the caching sound of gold

https://store.steampowered.com/app/258970/Gauntlet_Slayer_Edition/

NO, do not recommend this.

It is a VERY VERY Poor shadow of Diablo.

It's extremely short, lacks loot, lacks any real replayability, and basically lacks ANYTHING the OP wants.

[Neomerlinux]

GOf--=D eredeti hozzászólása:

sacred or sacred 2

I agree. If you don't know these classics, better check them out:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/12320/Sacred_Gold/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/225640/Sacred_2_Gold/
forget about Dre, err three thou

[zaphodikus]

Sacred series. Yep I did enjoy at least one of them. Getting old now, but fun.

[eqalidan]

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

UberFiend eredeti hozzászólása:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/258970/Gauntlet_Slayer_Edition/

NO, do not recommend this.

It is a VERY VERY Poor shadow of Diablo.

It's extremely short, lacks loot, lacks any real replayability, and basically lacks ANYTHING the OP wants.

did the gauntlet games ever go back to being more arcade style where you go as far as you can, or did they never go back from the save system they added at some point?

but yea, gauntlet is not even close to a diablo style game,

[eqalidan]

zaphodikus eredeti hozzászólása:

Sacred series. Yep I did enjoy at least one of them. Getting old now, but fun.

tried going though 2 recentlyish, stopped after a while because I was grinding my face on something that should have been easy at my level but I couldn't figure out what i did wrong.

[eqalidan]

zaphodikus eredeti hozzászólása:

^^ sometimes this is all I want, mindless drops and the caching sound of gold Diablo did that well in the 1st game even.

Sometimes I want finesse, personally much more into solid RPG's with party based combat, but personally I found Borderlands very slow, so I guess you cannot please everyone all of the time. But choices do seem to be few lately, goign to grab a copy of Victor Vran at any rate.

almost everything I want in these games are for sets to not be the end game and legendaries to not be the be all end all, but so often they are. I like rngesus takeing the wheel and rolling something amazeing but devs tend to tier gear in ways this is not allowed to happen. I think last epoch is suppose to make everything viable but I didnt play far enough into that yet to dive into the crafting system... honestly I see that as a double edge sword, because if crafting becomes the end game, than looting takes a hard back seat.

[Brian9824]

Ehh its not really hard to get a 5l in path of exile, really easy TBH. Trading does make it easy, but its incredibly easy to trade in the game using their website so *shrug*

[zaphodikus]

eqalidan eredeti hozzászólása:

zaphodikus eredeti hozzászólása:

^^ sometimes this is all I want, mindless drops and the caching sound of gold Diablo did that well in the 1st game even.

Sometimes I want finesse, personally much more into solid RPG's with party based combat, but personally I found Borderlands very slow, so I guess you cannot please everyone all of the time. But choices do seem to be few lately, goign to grab a copy of Victor Vran at any rate.

almost everything I want in these games are for sets to not be the end game and legendaries to not be the be all end all, but so often they are. I like rngesus takeing the wheel and rolling something amazeing but devs tend to tier gear in ways this is not allowed to happen. I think last epoch is suppose to make everything viable but I didnt play far enough into that yet to dive into the crafting system... honestly I see that as a double edge sword, because if crafting becomes the end game, than looting takes a hard back seat.

This game?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/899770/Last_Epoch/

[crunchyfrog]

eqalidan eredeti hozzászólása:

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

NO, do not recommend this.

It is a VERY VERY Poor shadow of Diablo.

It's extremely short, lacks loot, lacks any real replayability, and basically lacks ANYTHING the OP wants.

did the gauntlet games ever go back to being more arcade style where you go as far as you can, or did they never go back from the save system they added at some point?

but yea, gauntlet is not even close to a diablo style game,

No it's kind of burned into the ground now. This was the last venture I'm aware of.

It went through quite a few iterations as you say, but this last one was half heartedly designed to be something like a replayable thing, but it didn't employ anything remotely like well. On top of that it didn't feel remotely finished. A few vapid levels, devoid of any meaningful content and then it's over.

Nobody in their right mind wants to replay that.

So no, sadly they never returned ... yet, and at this stage I doubt it ever will.