Will Far Cry 6 ever be in Steam?

[Lapa]

Its in ♥♥♥♥ Uplay store and Epic Games store but will it ever be in steam? Epic has stolen us many games before and they always came to steam 1 year later

[nullable]

Ubisoft and Epic working together is not stealing from Steam or it's users.

Companies paying others for exclusivity rights isn't a bribe.

I mean I'm not against colloquialisms or anything, but at a certain point you're wading into hyperbole and outright dishonesty.

I mean not liking the situation is fine. But trying to cast pretty mundane and typical business agreements as borderline criminal activities and malicious is really making a mockery of the issue and yourselves.

And I'm saying that as someone who almost exclusively buys PC games from Steam and wouldn't mind everything being available on the platform. But those days are gone and no amount fussing and wailing is going to bring them back. And companies who don't work to maintain Steam as the only store that matters aren't evil, bad, greedy or anything. It was never their job to make Steam the center of the universe no matter how convenient some of would find that to be now.

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by crunchyfrog:

Originally posted by ReBoot:

... so buying up market share. Which is what Sweeney is doing. As i said, I don't see the Monopolies Comission going after this anytime soon (among other reasons, EGS isn't a monopoly), but it's still buying market share and artificially restricting customer choice.

No, there's a disitinction.

Buying up services, trading or whatever is no different to Tesco (the supermarket) agreeing contracts with the fruit and veg company I used to work for to supply exclusively one brand of apples.

THIS monopolies stuff governs BUYING the companies, not deals.

What Epic does though is equivalent to hanging out at the loading dock of the Tesco and watching what products come in to the store. If something looks like it's going to be popular, they approach the driver with a sack of money and say "Hey. This is yours if you don't sell these apples at Tesco."

Meanwhile, Tesco already had a display for those apples set up, but the product never arrives.

[CZBGR Icepick]

Originally posted by 8bitbeard:

What Epic does though is equivalent to hanging out at the loading dock of the Tesco and watching what products come in to the store. If something looks like it's going to be popular, they approach the driver with a sack of money and say "Hey. This is yours if you don't sell these apples at Tesco."

Meanwhile, Tesco already had a display for those apples set up, but the product never arrives.

That is a terrible analogy.

[nullable]

Originally posted by CZBGR Icepick:

Originally posted by 8bitbeard:

What Epic does though is equivalent to hanging out at the loading dock of the Tesco and watching what products come in to the store. If something looks like it's going to be popular, they approach the driver with a sack of money and say "Hey. This is yours if you don't sell these apples at Tesco."

Meanwhile, Tesco already had a display for those apples set up, but the product never arrives.

That is a terrible analogy.

Yeah, implying that games basically belong to Steam and developers/publishers aren't free to negotiate better deals for themselves and change their minds at any time. Especially when Valve doesn't expect or require exclusivity, and enables those choices by having fairly open and developer friendly platform...

And anyone who thinks selling games isn't a business concerned with money is just lying to themselves. Grumbling about the role of money in the industry just seems baffling to me.

I mean to go along with the analogy. It's really more like Epic offering a better price to the orchard, and the orchard going with that. Tesco is free to haggle t keep that product if they want. And it doesn't matter how outraged Tesco customers are that the orchard sold their apples for a better price to a different store. The orchard isn't wrong for doing so. And neither is the store for offering a better deal.

[Shotgun]

There is a contemporary push by big publishers to get users to use their own proprietary platforms. It's not just a pricing thing either, because they can adjust their pricing on competitor platforms so that their net profits are the same across the board. It's your data that they want, and it's worth a lot to them to be able to maximize revenues from product offerings, to sell to third parties for marketing purposes, and in cases of companies like Tencent (de facto owners of Epic Games) as a full data sharing requirement with the government (Chinese, in this case).

It's only going to get worse from here on. In fact the entire industry is pretty much colluding to take down Steam at this point, before cutting up the pie among themselves.

[Lapa]

at least Uncharted will be in Steam

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by 8bitbeard:

Originally posted by crunchyfrog:

No, there's a disitinction.

Buying up services, trading or whatever is no different to Tesco (the supermarket) agreeing contracts with the fruit and veg company I used to work for to supply exclusively one brand of apples.

THIS monopolies stuff governs BUYING the companies, not deals.

What Epic does though is equivalent to hanging out at the loading dock of the Tesco and watching what products come in to the store. If something looks like it's going to be popular, they approach the driver with a sack of money and say "Hey. This is yours if you don't sell these apples at Tesco."

Meanwhile, Tesco already had a display for those apples set up, but the product never arrives.

No, that would be theft. Because those apples at the point of delivery will have already been paid for by Tesco. So that analiogy isn't quite right.

If you actually mean a supermarket finds out who supplies Tesco and rings up that supplier to try and get supply undercutting Tesco then yes, this happens ALL the time.

When I worked as a fruit and veg trader, ANY company that had Marks and Spencer as client would religiously be offered new contracts from customers and suppliers trying to find out what our recipes were, and then the supplier too.

Fun note, M&S at that time (1990s) had in their supply contract that you couldn't deal with tesco,. so yup it absolutely did happen and does.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by CZBGR Icepick:

Originally posted by 8bitbeard:

What Epic does though is equivalent to hanging out at the loading dock of the Tesco and watching what products come in to the store. If something looks like it's going to be popular, they approach the driver with a sack of money and say "Hey. This is yours if you don't sell these apples at Tesco."

Meanwhile, Tesco already had a display for those apples set up, but the product never arrives.

That is a terrible analogy.

What being imply seems wrong, but that only if Tesco paid for the apples in the first place would be an issue, and would be theft, but if not own, or bought by Tesco the orchard is free to sell to anyone, or change their mind at any point in which is all fair play. But what actually happen back in 2019 with Epic they reach out to game publishers to take large exclusivity deal agreement either promises of fixed sales, and/or upfront money to have them do bait switching on their consumers that already paid in advance which is actually misleading as it was anti consumers, but also breaking the law, and the publishers, took a nasty backlash that happen thought-out 2019. Epic got wiser not to repeat same crisis to upset the userbase, as they almost cause lawsuit for the publishers if refunds were never provided at all.

[Mythical Ostrich]

Likely not for a while. They have a deal with Ebin and use their own store (which is equally as trash).
But Ubisoft games are pretty mediocre at best so it's no big deal to me.

[Thenetor47[FR]]

i have the hope that Ubisoft may return to Steam because of how EA returned to Steam after all the years it left the boat, so maybe it will take the same time or longer for Ubisoft to return into Steam, but i fear that they'll abandon a lot of franchise during those time.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by Thenetor47FR:

i have the hope that Ubisoft may return to Steam because of how EA returned to Steam after all the years it left the boat, so maybe it will take the same time or longer for Ubisoft to return into Steam, but i fear that they'll abandon a lot of franchise during those time.

Well knowing Ubisoft that known to make bad decisions, and even say the dumbest things in the past, and doesn't actually keep to their word couple times is bad enough alone, I don't mind if they're gone as they had nothing of value truely, maybe assassin creed but at this point they made so many, not sure if even worth it really that just IMO.

[Washell]

Originally posted by Lapa:

but will it ever be in steam?

For a small part that's up to you. If you become one of the people who refuse the buy games anywhere but Steam, that customerbase may grow too big to be ignored by publishers like Ubisoft.

Whether you want Valve/Steam to have such power of the market is another thing though.

[my new friend]

Originally posted by SpicyXHotSauce🌶️🎃:

Yes it'll be on Steam next year, we have the other Far Cry games here already.

Far Cry New Dawn was released right around the same time Ubisoft made it apparent they were going to extend their partnership with Epic. Even a Ubisoft rep stated Far Cry 6 will not be on Steam.

Originally posted by UbiBaron:

Hi all,

Far Cry 6 will not be available on Steam, it can be purchased through the Ubisoft Store or the Epic Games Store.

- Ubisoft Support

https://steamcommunity.com/app/552520/discussions/0/3058492678367772486/#c3058492678369280434
Now, Ubisoft is taking a long look at the Steam Deck and may come back in the future though. https://gamerant.com/ubisoft-games-steam-deck-one-condition/

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Originally posted by Thenetor47FR:

i have the hope that Ubisoft may return to Steam because of how EA returned to Steam after all the years it left the boat, so maybe it will take the same time or longer for Ubisoft to return into Steam, but i fear that they'll abandon a lot of franchise during those time.

Well knowing Ubisoft that known to make bad decisions, and even say the dumbest things in the past, and doesn't actually keep to their word couple times is bad enough alone, I don't mind if they're gone as they had nothing of value truely, maybe assassin creed but at this point they made so many, not sure if even worth it really that just IMO.

I couldn't agree more.

Generally, I tend to think "the more the merrier", however in regard to Ubisoft, they are the company that excels in producing mediocrity regularly.

Every game is the same base cookie cutter open world ♥♥♥♥, devoid of any real meaning oe character, but instead filled with meaningless filler "fetch this, go here" content.

Aside from ZombiU, I've not seen anything remtoely interesting in them for years. Coupled with them contiuously repeating past mistakes about things like DRM, I do not welcome them one bit.

[crunchyfrog]

Originally posted by SpicyXHotSauce🌶️🎃:

Originally posted by my new friend:

Far Cry New Dawn was released right around the same time Ubisoft made it apparent they were going to extend their partnership with Epic. Even a Ubisoft rep stated Far Cry 6 will not be on Steam.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/552520/discussions/0/3058492678367772486/#c3058492678369280434
Now, Ubisoft is taking a long look at the Steam Deck and may come back in the future though. https://gamerant.com/ubisoft-games-steam-deck-one-condition/

Far Cry 6 will appear eventually on Steam, just matter of time. It's hard to take the word of developers seriously nowadays as they say one thing but do the opposite.

Well, to be fair on some here (not all, mind), it ain't always their fault.

Because they will often state their terms about what they are doing or intend to do, then the publisher steps in near release and changes things. And they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Granted it's a pain in the arse either way, but it is a real issue.