"Due to recent changes to government laws in your region, we are unable to offer local payment methods for checkout at the current time."

[DS$]

Hey there, whenever I try to send someone to my friend that has an argentine account, I would get a message that I can't enter the card information. Whenever my friend try to add funds to his account he will receive the message "Due to recent changes to government laws in your region, we are unable to offer local payment methods for checkout at the current time.
". Do you guys know what is going? how long will that take? and when are we gonna be able to add funds in the Argentina accounts and send games and gift cards to each other? or is there is a way that we could add funds into our Argentina accounts.

[Zekiran]

Dude if it was up to me and lots of others, the countries that are undergoing such terrible economic disasters would be *helped out of it*.

But that ain't in my court, man.

I'm not an Argentine citizen. If I was, I'd be out trying to get this changed. I cannot help you here.

I'm sorry that the country is having issues like these - but the fact is that Valve *cannot change this*, and cannot support the rampant illegal activities that were going on *USING THEIR SYSTEM* to launder money. It was a big enough problem that it HAD to have this as a response.

And if you think for a second that any other large corporation isn't doing the same, guess again. World wide companies and corporations that deal with issues like these *absolutely* have to safeguard the millions of OTHER customers AND their own overhead, investors, or in valve's case their legal right to do business without being sued into oblivion.

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Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:

Messaggio originale di Zero-Hero:

That sort of attitude is just going to push people away from this platform. There's very easy fixes to this like requiring a verification code from an Argentinan carrier or outright banning gift cards from being redeemed when its being paid in a foreign currency. Other platforms don't have this problem because there's no gift card system in place and the credit card/means of transactions used to buy things has to be from the country the user's account is set to or it won't work. The most worrying thing is how legitimate Argentinan citizens can't fund their own account anymore

You are not understanding the problem here.

It's not MERELY a case of the exploiters fleecing cheap games. When a payment provision gets removed it's as I said earlier - Valve are having issues either with legitimacy or it's costing them money.

As I said earlier, this has happened in the past, especially with Paysafecard in certain regions.

You're assuming that it's just one issue and that's extremely unlikely.

And only one group can fix a country's economy to mend a problem like this - that country's government.

The Argentinan economy has always been in turmoil. Paysafecard isn't on the same level as big Argentinan banks, by your logic Steam has decided to block all means of transactions from the region just because the economy isn't doing well, if that was truly the case then Turkey users would also be affected since inflation is skyrocketing over there similar to Argentina.

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Messaggio originale di Zero-Hero:

Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:

You are not understanding the problem here.

It's not MERELY a case of the exploiters fleecing cheap games. When a payment provision gets removed it's as I said earlier - Valve are having issues either with legitimacy or it's costing them money.

As I said earlier, this has happened in the past, especially with Paysafecard in certain regions.

You're assuming that it's just one issue and that's extremely unlikely.

And only one group can fix a country's economy to mend a problem like this - that country's government.

The Argentinan economy has always been in turmoil. Paysafecard isn't on the same level as big Argentinan banks, by your logic Steam has decided to block all means of transactions from the region just because the economy isn't doing well, if that was truly the case then Turkey users would also be affected since inflation is skyrocketing over there similar to Argentina.

Apparently this has already happened before. Steam has temporarily halted the entire Argentinan currency from being used because of hyperinflation and they were losing a lot of money in 2019. This article goes in-depth into it: https://venturebeat.com/2019/08/21/steam-disables-argentinian-currency/

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Valve is free to operate its business as it sees fit. If Argentina represents too much risk at certain points they're free to react to that situation.

There's not really much in the way of arguments that makes Valve bearing the risk for Argentina's volatile economy more attractive. I don't think you can criticize or shame Valve into enduring that risk.

Messaggio originale di Zero-Hero:

The Argentinan economy has always been in turmoil. Paysafecard isn't on the same level as big Argentinan banks, by your logic Steam has decided to block all means of transactions from the region just because the economy isn't doing well, if that was truly the case then Turkey users would also be affected since inflation is skyrocketing over there similar to Argentina.

This argument is bogus. Turkey and Argentina aren't directly linked together, and what happens to one doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what happens to the other. And it's likely the economic situations aren't actually identical or close enough to expect that anything happening to Argentina should be happening to Turkey at the same time.

Of course if Turkey's situation was to progress far enough to warrant similar restrictions from Valve that would certainly put the kibosh on your belly-aching. And I doubt you'd feel satisfied
"as long it was happening to some other failing economy too".

[crunchyfrog]

Messaggio originale di Zero-Hero:

Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:

You are not understanding the problem here.

It's not MERELY a case of the exploiters fleecing cheap games. When a payment provision gets removed it's as I said earlier - Valve are having issues either with legitimacy or it's costing them money.

As I said earlier, this has happened in the past, especially with Paysafecard in certain regions.

You're assuming that it's just one issue and that's extremely unlikely.

And only one group can fix a country's economy to mend a problem like this - that country's government.

The Argentinan economy has always been in turmoil. Paysafecard isn't on the same level as big Argentinan banks, by your logic Steam has decided to block all means of transactions from the region just because the economy isn't doing well, if that was truly the case then Turkey users would also be affected since inflation is skyrocketing over there similar to Argentina.

You are so missing the point.

I never said they are the same.

I was iterating that from VALVE'S point of view as a vendor taking payments, the EFFECT is the same.

And it deonmstrably is. What happned with Paysafe was that it got compromised in Eastern Europe (but iirc not over the rest of the world as some people could still use it in certain regions soon after). Valve removed it simply because when that happens there's question over whether they'll get payment or increased fees from their banks due to fraud and returns.

This is not markedly different. If an economy in a country got tits up (and yes, I know Argentina has never been good and it's largely down to their weird politics) then that immediately causes problems for vendors as there's instability that can cause EXACTLY the SAME problems as I've just mentioned.

This is also underlined by the poster a couple above me that demonstrates this happened before.

So I'm sorry but you misunderstood.

[taahace]

We all know there is no "friend" and you made yourself an argentinian account to get cheap games lol