People who insult?

[Toxin]

So does Steam dont care about people who insults others on profile?

[Toxin]

Автор сообщения: KillahInstinct

Автор сообщения: Toxin

Insulting people is breaking the (first) rule.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4045-USHJ-3810

Thanks, I had never read the rules.. ;)

Not sure what your post is meant to add to the topic, or are you just confirming what I said?

Yeah, but how is steam handling the insults? Reported many people and deleted everything, but just wondering. I mean if I just report and do nothing, the insults are still on my profile. Is there some hidden rule not to delete what people write? Im just curious about the steps.

[KillahInstinct]

Right, knew I forgot to reply to something. Profiles are a bit a class of their own. Unlike forums, guides and other UGC that are very much public and a 'forced' experience for users, and thus moderated. Profiles can be private, people can be blocked and comments be deleted - with self moderation an option there is no real need to moderate that (not to mention, impossible).

That said, there are options to report profile comments but I am unfamiliar with how they work. If at all.

[KillahInstinct]

Автор сообщения: Lar Dass

Автор сообщения: KillahInstinct

Thanks, I had never read the rules.. ;)

Not sure what your post is meant to add to the topic, or are you just confirming what I said?

Insulting =/= defending

I think you have a different definition of 'defending'. Calling people names and such is not defending. Check your bans if you are confused about them, they generally include the quoted part of your ban (and a link to the rules).

[crunchyfrog]

Автор сообщения: Lar Dass

Автор сообщения: KillahInstinct

Thanks, I had never read the rules.. ;)

Not sure what your post is meant to add to the topic, or are you just confirming what I said?

Insulting =/= defending

Nor does moving the goalposts equal that you're right.

The fact is simply this. If a person insults you, REPORT, BLOCK, MOVE ON. Let Valve deal with them.

By engaging in the SAME behaviour it does not give you a get out of jail free card. You're simply now engaging in the SAME behaviour.


Ask yourself this. If you saw a car tearing along overtaking everybody obviously breaking the speed limit, and you go tearing after them, what do you think the police would say if they stopped both of you?

Would your defence of "I was chasing them because they were breaking the law" wash?

Of course not, you'd both be done for speeing and probably reckless endagerment.


The fact remains this - REPORT, BLOCK, and MOVE ON is not just simple, but it also saves you any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or being pulled into childish behaviour like this.

There is no excuse EVER for breaking the rules.

[Lar Dass]

Автор сообщения: crunchyfrog

Автор сообщения: Lar Dass

Insulting =/= defending

Nor does moving the goalposts equal that you're right.

The fact is simply this. If a person insults you, REPORT, BLOCK, MOVE ON. Let Valve deal with them.

By engaging in the SAME behaviour it does not give you a get out of jail free card. You're simply now engaging in the SAME behaviour.


Ask yourself this. If you saw a car tearing along overtaking everybody obviously breaking the speed limit, and you go tearing after them, what do you think the police would say if they stopped both of you?

Would your defence of "I was chasing them because they were breaking the law" wash?

Of course not, you'd both be done for speeing and probably reckless endagerment.


The fact remains this - REPORT, BLOCK, and MOVE ON is not just simple, but it also saves you any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or being pulled into childish behaviour like this.

There is no excuse EVER for breaking the rules.

the whole point of op is that valve doesnt deal with them, well in profiles its easy to delete comments or privatise comments to friends only but not so much for discussions

[crunchyfrog]

Автор сообщения: Lar Dass

Автор сообщения: crunchyfrog

Nor does moving the goalposts equal that you're right.

The fact is simply this. If a person insults you, REPORT, BLOCK, MOVE ON. Let Valve deal with them.

By engaging in the SAME behaviour it does not give you a get out of jail free card. You're simply now engaging in the SAME behaviour.


Ask yourself this. If you saw a car tearing along overtaking everybody obviously breaking the speed limit, and you go tearing after them, what do you think the police would say if they stopped both of you?

Would your defence of "I was chasing them because they were breaking the law" wash?

Of course not, you'd both be done for speeing and probably reckless endagerment.


The fact remains this - REPORT, BLOCK, and MOVE ON is not just simple, but it also saves you any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or being pulled into childish behaviour like this.

There is no excuse EVER for breaking the rules.

the whole point of op is that valve doesnt deal with them, well in profiles its easy to delete comments or privatise comments to friends only but not so much for discussions

Cool, because I wasn't responding to OP was I?

I was responding to YOU, and the point stands.

[Lar Dass]

Автор сообщения: crunchyfrog

Автор сообщения: Lar Dass

the whole point of op is that valve doesnt deal with them, well in profiles its easy to delete comments or privatise comments to friends only but not so much for discussions

Cool, because I wasn't responding to OP was I?

I was responding to YOU, and the point stands.

defending still doesnt mean insulting, you can defend a point/game/review/screenshot etc without having to insult the other person, there is no mention of light defending in the rules
your example was defending (the law) while also breaking the law, but in many cases i have seen it is usually just defending without breaking the rules part
even something as simple as "leave this thread flamebaiter" could get someone banned

[crunchyfrog]

Автор сообщения: Lar Dass

Автор сообщения: crunchyfrog

Cool, because I wasn't responding to OP was I?

I was responding to YOU, and the point stands.

defending still doesnt mean insulting, you can defend a point/game/review/screenshot etc without having to insult the other person, there is no mention of light defending in the rules
your example was defending (the law) while also breaking the law, but in many cases i have seen it is usually just defending without breaking the rules part
even something as simple as "leave this thread flamebaiter" could get someone banned

Absolutely, but here's the thing.

I was addressing the point entirely.

I never said you were wrong.

and "leave this thread flambaiter" is easily seen as flamebaiting itself. So that's why report, block and move on works.

[KillahInstinct]

Lar Dass, think this guide might help you.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=143962136

[Boomie]

Автор сообщения: Lar Dass

Insults won't result in them getting banned. But defending yourself against the trolls will result in YOU getting banned. Steam mod logic

I mean you’re not wrong. It almost seems like they pick favorites at times.

I remember a time where I was simply stating that mods seem to censor certain types of criticism.

Funny enough, that post was deleted and censored. Apparently it was for “spamming”.

[crunchyfrog]

Автор сообщения: Boomie

Автор сообщения: Lar Dass

Insults won't result in them getting banned. But defending yourself against the trolls will result in YOU getting banned. Steam mod logic

I mean you’re not wrong. It almost seems like the pick favorites at times.

I remember having a post deleted long ago for simply stating that mods seem to censor certain types of criticism.

Funny enough, that post was deleted and censored. Apparently it was for “spamming”.

Yeah. I don't believe a word of that at all.

Because quite simply whenever people have claimed such a thing, a mod comes along and points out PREVIOUS posts that led up to that decision.

I'm not saying that's the case with yours, butwhile mistakes can happen, I doubt that's the case.

Generally speaking, mods on game related forums here can be a wild west as their managed by the appointees by the publishers themselves. In those cases, if they play up there's strict procedure to report them (and you can message a Steam mod too).

But for Steam mods themselves, I've never seen an issue that wasn't either reversed or explained fully.

[Boomie]

Автор сообщения: crunchyfrog

Автор сообщения: Boomie

I mean you’re not wrong. It almost seems like the pick favorites at times.

I remember having a post deleted long ago for simply stating that mods seem to censor certain types of criticism.

Funny enough, that post was deleted and censored. Apparently it was for “spamming”.

Yeah. I don't believe a word of that at all.

Because quite simply whenever people have claimed such a thing, a mod comes along and points out PREVIOUS posts that led up to that decision.

I'm not saying that's the case with yours, butwhile mistakes can happen, I doubt that's the case.

Generally speaking, mods on game related forums here can be a wild west as their managed by the appointees by the publishers themselves. In those cases, if they play up there's strict procedure to report them (and you can message a Steam mod too).

But for Steam mods themselves, I've never seen an issue that wasn't either reversed or explained fully.

It was a Steam mod. I’m not gonna bring up that post because I don’t wanna get suspended for “spamming” again.

[crunchyfrog]

Автор сообщения: Boomie

Автор сообщения: crunchyfrog

Yeah. I don't believe a word of that at all.

Because quite simply whenever people have claimed such a thing, a mod comes along and points out PREVIOUS posts that led up to that decision.

I'm not saying that's the case with yours, butwhile mistakes can happen, I doubt that's the case.

Generally speaking, mods on game related forums here can be a wild west as their managed by the appointees by the publishers themselves. In those cases, if they play up there's strict procedure to report them (and you can message a Steam mod too).

But for Steam mods themselves, I've never seen an issue that wasn't either reversed or explained fully.

It was a Steam mod. I’m not gonna bring up that post because I don’t wanna get suspended for “spamming” again.

Well, I'm not asking you to do that, as that would be a bit daft.

But all I'm saying is it's very easy when you're the aggrevied party to think you were innocent, but that's rarely the case as it isn't ONE post that often makes the decision. It's what led up to it and your previous that gets taken into account.

[Boomie]

Автор сообщения: crunchyfrog

Автор сообщения: Boomie

It was a Steam mod. I’m not gonna bring up that post because I don’t wanna get suspended for “spamming” again.

Well, I'm not asking you to do that, as that would be a bit daft.

But all I'm saying is it's very easy when you're the aggrevied party to think you were innocent, but that's rarely the case as it isn't ONE post that often makes the decision. It's what led up to it and your previous that gets taken into account.

It was only one post. There was nothing leading up to it. You don’t have to believe me, but it’s the truth.

Besides, pointing out censorship isn’t “spamming”, as my warning message claimed.

[crunchyfrog]

Автор сообщения: Boomie

Автор сообщения: crunchyfrog

Well, I'm not asking you to do that, as that would be a bit daft.

But all I'm saying is it's very easy when you're the aggrevied party to think you were innocent, but that's rarely the case as it isn't ONE post that often makes the decision. It's what led up to it and your previous that gets taken into account.

It was only one post. There was nothing leading up to it. You don’t have to believe me, but it’s the truth.

Besides, pointing out censorship isn’t “spamming”, as my warning message claimed.

Well that's the thing. We cannot take any word for granted so the default position applies - NOT to believe your claim.

POinting out cesnorship CAN stil be considered spamming, or even flamebaiting. That's the point.