☒Soul Glass✧ 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 3:05
I lost my account now its safe cause i recuperate him but i want to know why Steam Guard don't do his job
Yesterday steam work fine, today my steam was log off and when i try to log in says user or password incorrect i try to recuperate my password i think i forgot her but not my steam guard was down and my email was change i dont autorizate any of this now i acctivate again steam guard i change my password on steam and email but im afraid something like this will happen again my friend list was deleted and comment to. Please help me understand why my steam got stolen with steam guard on and everything?
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Visualvengeance 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 3:58 
That is nonsense. At least for my suggestion. No ads, no battery drain.

You can even buy pre-infected phones with the triad trojan, just naming one news. So dont tell wrong things to people.

Triad trojan? Never heard of it, can you elaborate? I'm not saying wrong things, just do a five minute google search and you'll see you don't need one.
Muppet among Puppets 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:01 
引用自 Visualvengeance
That is nonsense. At least for my suggestion. No ads, no battery drain.

You can even buy pre-infected phones with the triad trojan, just naming one news. So dont tell wrong things to people.

Triad trojan? Never heard of it, can you elaborate? I'm not saying wrong things, just do a five minute google search and you'll see you don't need one.
https://news.drweb.com/show/?lng=en&i=11749&c=5

You can not erase it. But a good antivirus might show it, so you can get rid of that phone.

Maybe you should use google to find always the two sides of coins.
☒Soul Glass✧ 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:03 
引用自 Visualvengeance
No, don't do this... It will only get you more viruses through spam and ads and it will kill your batery in the process. Android and iOS are not windows, they don't need an anti-virus. Just do a factory reset to your phone that should get rid of the viruses IF any, viruses are pretty unlikely on Android due to the way how the platform is built.

Best of luck to you o/
That is nonsense. At least for my suggestion. No ads, no battery drain.

You can even buy pre-infected phones with the triad trojan, just naming one news. So dont tell wrong things to people.

Funfact: You actually just said, no virus for android, but you claim you get virus by spam and ads..... LOL

For now i have an antivirus on my phone i will see what happen i hope my steam dosnet get stolen again....
Visualvengeance 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:03 
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https://news.drweb.com/show/?lng=en&i=11749&c=5

You can not erase it. But a good antivirus might show it, so you can get rid of that phone.

Maybe you should use google to find always the two sides of coins.

That's a a Russian anti-malware company, of course they will say YOU MUST have an anti-virus, doing otherwise would be shooting themselves in the foot.
最後修改者:Visualvengeance; 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:03
Muppet among Puppets 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:05 
引用自 Visualvengeance
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https://news.drweb.com/show/?lng=en&i=11749&c=5

You can not erase it. But a good antivirus might show it, so you can get rid of that phone.

Maybe you should use google to find always the two sides of coins.

Tha'ts a a Russian anti-malware company, of course they will say YOU MUST have an anti-virus, doing otherwise would be shooting themselves in the foot.
The phones are infected, dude. The firmware.
Read about the triada trojan somewhere else. This is just a list of infected phones.
Visualvengeance 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:09 
The phones are infected, dude. The firmware.
Read about the triada trojan somewhere else. This is just a list of infected phones.

Of course there are a lot of infected phones, people like (you) have this windows mentality that everythings MUST have an anti-virus, which for the most part just spy on you. Oh did you know that these lovely anti-virus apps have access to your entire phone? and can do whatever they want? Including running backgrund processes as it happened with a well known "anti-virus" on the Google Store.

I digress, it's your phone if you want to make it more vulnerable go ahead not going to stop you.
最後修改者:Visualvengeance; 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:10
Muppet among Puppets 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:13 
引用自 Visualvengeance
The phones are infected, dude. The firmware.
Read about the triada trojan somewhere else. This is just a list of infected phones.

Of course there are a lot of infected phones, people like (you) have this windows mentality that everythings MUST have an anti-virus, which for the most access just spy on you. Oh did you know that these lovely anti-virus apps have access to your entire phone? and can do whatever they want? Including running backgrund processes as it happened with a well known "anti-virus" on the Google Store.

I digress, it's your phone if you want to make it more vulnerable go ahead not going to stop you.
I suggested sophos. Feel free to find bad things about it.

The person who made this topic had a leak. If he didnt insert details on a site + code TWICE, it is the phone. So no matter what your opinion about antivirus is (btw, you rather dont need one for windows if you know what you do, so dont tell me what my mindset is), suggesting to use an antivirus on that phone is the right thing to do. Because even a factory reset wont fix specific infections.
Visualvengeance 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:23 
I suggested sophos. Feel free to find bad things about it.

The person who made this topic had a leak. If he didnt insert details on a site + code TWICE, it is the phone. So no matter what your opinion about antivirus is (btw, you rather dont need one for windows if you know what you do, so dont tell me what my mindset is), suggesting to use an antivirus on that phone is the right thing to do. Because even a factory reset wont fix specific infections.

Not going to research anti virus programs, they're pointless and they're only there to fish you out of money. The OP already had an anti-virus running in the background, so as you can see that helped him a lot to stay safe and protected!

I'm not going to argue with you, let's agree to disagree :steamhappy:
NeXuS23 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:24 
Another one that could have been easily prevented with U2F (Universal 2nd Factor) for all logins and i really wonder how long it takes till it's finally supported.

With U2F phishing is futile because users can't impossibly send physical objects over Internet and it can even be securely used on malware infested systems.

That's why i definitely advocate U2F (Universal 2nd Factor) support for all Steam Logins (Web, Client and Mobile).
Muppet among Puppets 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:25 
引用自 Visualvengeance
Not going to research anti virus programs, they're pointless and they're only there to fish you out of money. The OP already had an anti-virus running in the background, so as you can see that helped him a lot to stay safe and protected!

I'm not going to argue with you, let's agree to disagree :steamhappy:
So you dont research just claim?


He didnt have one before, you might have misread that. And we all know they are not 100%..

Just one more question: Do you recommend people using one of the 40 phones in the list to not run an antivirus because no one needs an antivirus on phones?
最後修改者:Muppet among Puppets; 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:27
Black Blade 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:27 
@OP
I have to say it sounds pretty disturbing, I do hope there is no hole somewhere or anything
For the most cases and parts it's a user error, so think well is it possible you log in a fake Steam site at any point?

引用自 Visualvengeance
Of course there are a lot of infected phones, people like (you) have this windows mentality that everythings MUST have an anti-virus, which for the most part just spy on you. Oh did you know that these lovely anti-virus apps have access to your entire phone? and can do whatever they want? Including running backgrund processes as it happened with a well known "anti-virus" on the Google Store.

I digress, it's your phone if you want to make it more vulnerable go ahead not going to stop you.
Android has a virus, because of how its build and even more as its based on Linux, and is open source, making all that easier to find holes

From experience from a friend that had adware on his device, I can say it for sure exist, from the antivirus we try AVG mobile seems to have done the job finding it

I am sure some other anti-virus out there can also do the job, some of them are just bad or something, I know at least they don't find the stuff

And you really going to say they spy on you, on an android device, you know... the OS made by big brother Google? :wrynhappy:
最後修改者:Black Blade; 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:29
Visualvengeance 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:30 
He didnt have one before.

Just one more question: Do you recommend people using one of the 40 phones in the list to not run an antivirus because no one needs an antivirus on phones?

If the person who clicks (or in this case taps) on all links and installs every app under the sun, then yes I guess an anti virus could help in 20% of the cases.
But if you only use the phone for some light web browsing and youtube, then no, you don't need an anti virus, There are two ways for a phone to get infected (android phones from my knowledge) One way is giving them the access yourself, through the permisions thing when installing the app. The second is going to a site which uses flash and there's an exploit in the flash and gets access to the phone.

I might be wrong here, ther're people who know more about this than I do, but this is what I found when I did my research when I got my first Androind phone (for steam app) a couple of months ago.
Visualvengeance 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:33 
引用自 Black Blade
@OP

Android has a virus, because of how its build and even more as its based on Linux, and is open source, making all that easier to find holes

So you're saying open source is much more vulnerable then closed source?

I find that ironic, considering the top 500 mainframe computers run Linux, which is open source.
最後修改者:Visualvengeance; 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:34
Muppet among Puppets 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:34 
引用自 Visualvengeance
He didnt have one before.

Just one more question: Do you recommend people using one of the 40 phones in the list to not run an antivirus because no one needs an antivirus on phones?

If the person who clicks (or in this case taps) on all links and installs every app under the sun, then yes I guess an anti virus could help in 20% of the cases.
But if you only use the phone for some light web browsing and youtube, then no, you don't need an anti virus, There are two ways for a phone to get infected (android phones from my knowledge) One way is giving them the access yourself, through the permisions thing when installing the app. The second is going to a site which uses flash and there's an exploit in the flash and gets access to the phone.

I might be wrong here, ther're people who know more about this than I do, but this is what I found when I did my research when I got my first Androind phone (for steam app) a couple of months ago.
You are right about how it is meant to be.
But you are in denial if you dont see that there are proven situations where infections might be present even if you did nothing wrong.

And its a bit strange, i suggested a free antivirus without limitations, no ads or battery drain, and you still claim they want the bucks or try to infect you, painting a scenario without proofs, while on the other side even validated events are not enough to see a tiny reason why an antivirus might have helped.
Visualvengeance 2018 年 3 月 16 日 上午 4:39 
You are right about how it is meant to be.
But you are in denial if you dont see that there are proven situations where infections might be present even if you did nothing wrong.

And its a bit strange, i suggested a free antivirus without limitations, no ads or battery drain, and you still claim they want the bucks or try to infect you, painting a scenario without proofs, while on the other side even validated events are not enough to see a tiny reason why an antivirus might have helped.

Yes, it's called exploits if you don't do anything and you still get infected, there's nothing much you or the anti-virus software can do there.

You suggested a free anti-virus indeed, but is it open source? Can you look at the code? If you can't, I don't trust it at all. You're either the costumer or the product. if it's "free' there is always a catch, you're most likely the product.
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