Vindictus Aug 11, 2020 @ 10:37am
28 years of PC gaming for me and still no WH40K MMORPG
Sadly, despite the immense number of MMORPGs from Asia and the limited number of AAA titles ; will we ever see a Warhammer 40K MMORPG?
The last feeble and sleezy attempt was the alarming "Eternal Crusade" that not only ripped off tens of thousands of Founders who pledged money for an MMORPG and then had the game turned into yet another multiplayer shooter.
The biggest sin of this game besides pulling the "old switcheroo" was the Devs invention of the term MMO.
Now we see what are traditional MP games all trying to hook use with the use of the term "MMO".
IMHO unless the game is set up with Servers the way WoW, EQ 1/2, and other true MMORPGs they are not MMO's of any kind.
So when will we ever actually see a Warhammer 40K MMORPG?
Probably never, as Games Workshop does not seem to care who they give their IP to, as long as they get big money.
What do you think?
When will we ever see one?
Even worse...back in the day when Blizzard was a small new company, they actually were trying to plan their first game a WH40K MMORPG, but because of IP issues with Games Workshop, the whole thing fell thru and we were left with World of Warcraft.
One can only imagine what it would be like if the current and past WoW expansions were all Warhammer 40K and not the fantasy universe it is.
if only Blizzard and GW had come to an agreement the worlds largest and most successful MMORPG would be a Warhammer 40K MMORPG.
However, if you study the history of WoW, and how it went from rigid lore to "whatever the players want" where any race can be any class, would we instead have Ork Space Marines and Eldar Orks, Space Marine Eldar, and Chaos Imperial Guard?
Maybe...it was best Blizzard did not get the WH40K IP.
Then again would GW have enforced the IP to not break lore?
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cinedine Aug 11, 2020 @ 10:57am 
There was never a game by Blizzard in the making unless you count Star Craft which is a license-free WH40k game. When they were a small company MMOs weren't important. I mean, they basically kickstarted the craze with WoW. Eternal Crusade was a project started in the early 2010s IIRC.

Also the game is fitting the narrative: in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war. No questing, no idling in towns.
(Also, what's wrong with Chaos Imperial Guard? Traitor guards do exist. And Ork Space Marines are basically the Krork.)
Cathulhu Aug 11, 2020 @ 10:59am 
Warcraft and Starcraft were initially planned to be Warhammer and Warhammer 40K games.
Blizzard lost the IP and changed it to their own.
Still, the very heavy influence is easily noticable.
Vindictus Aug 11, 2020 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by cinedine:
There was never a game by Blizzard in the making unless you count Star Craft which is a license-free WH40k game. When they were a small company MMOs weren't important. I mean, they basically kickstarted the craze with WoW. Eternal Crusade was a project started in the early 2010s IIRC.

INCORRECT. Read again, I will be more accurate "trying to release and develop", would be better stated as "planning" it was their first game in the early planning stages.
Last edited by Vindictus; Aug 11, 2020 @ 11:04am
cinedine Aug 11, 2020 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Cathulhu:
Warcraft and Starcraft were initially planned to be Warhammer and Warhammer 40K games.
Blizzard lost the IP and changed it to their own.
Still, the very heavy influence is easily noticable.

For SC, yes. I mean, come on, Zerg and Tyranids?
For WC you really need to know about it, I'd say. WC 1 is a fairly generic fantasy setting by today's standard. Green orcs might be a dead give-away back then but it's almost a default by now. (Well, thanks to the popularity of Warhammer and WarCraft.) Even Might and Magic got them green at some point.
Vindictus Aug 11, 2020 @ 11:31am 
The first game Blizzard planned was a Warhammer 40K or Warhammer Fantasy World game. Period. All the rest including WC and SC came much later.
WC was the first game.
But again, let me stress this whole Warhammer thing was when the company first formed, they had no other games at that time.
It was just planning.
Cathulhu Aug 11, 2020 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by cinedine:
For SC, yes. I mean, come on, Zerg and Tyranids?
For WC you really need to know about it, I'd say. WC 1 is a fairly generic fantasy setting by today's standard. Green orcs might be a dead give-away back then but it's almost a default by now. (Well, thanks to the popularity of Warhammer and WarCraft.) Even Might and Magic got them green at some point.
https://www.gamesradar.com/making-of-warcraft-orcs-and-humans/
Falsus Te Deum Aug 11, 2020 @ 11:43am 
Guess this does not count?
Cathulhu Aug 11, 2020 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by Vindictus:
The last feeble and sleezy attempt was the alarming "Eternal Crusade" that not only ripped off tens of thousands of Founders who pledged money for an MMORPG and then had the game turned into yet another multiplayer shooter.
Evidently not.
Satoru Aug 11, 2020 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by Cathulhu:
Originally posted by Vindictus:
The last feeble and sleezy attempt was the alarming "Eternal Crusade" that not only ripped off tens of thousands of Founders who pledged money for an MMORPG and then had the game turned into yet another multiplayer shooter.
Evidently not.

"It doesnt count because I say it doesnt count"

OOOOHHHHKAAAYYYYY

The OP doesnt seem to understand how words work
Last edited by Satoru; Aug 11, 2020 @ 3:28pm
Yasahi Aug 11, 2020 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by cinedine:
Also the game is fitting the narrative: in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war. No questing, no idling in towns.

WH40k could support a fully fledged MMO that is not based on frontline combat. The Inquisition, Rogue Traders etc. all provide players with tons of opportunities and quests.
Last edited by Yasahi; Aug 11, 2020 @ 3:28pm
cinedine Aug 11, 2020 @ 4:26pm 
Originally posted by Vindictus:
But again, let me stress this whole Warhammer thing was when the company first formed, they had no other games at that time.

Before they were Blizzard, they were Silicon Synapse or something like this. They had a racing game and the now famous Lost Vikings already.
Times were way different then. MMORPGs weren't exactly popular and a small company like this would have had a hard time creating one.

As Cathulu pointed out, they wanted WarCraft to be a Warhammer game.
76561199057745327 Aug 12, 2020 @ 4:41am 
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