Hacker with 2 clones accounts kicking new players controlling servers.

[Nman]

Steam seem to be doing nothing about this and can't play CSGO with 1 particular individual doing this on regular basis. Steam not dealing with situation and already reported in game. Watching in specatutor mode its obvious they are doing wall hacking etc. seems like their testing their hacking on the local server but kicking any new comers to the server so there is never more than their group online.

[I pee in the shower]

If you already filed a report and blocked him, there's really nothing you can do besides finding a new server to play on.

[Radene]

These things take time. Be patient. If they're hacking, and have been reported, they will get their comeuppance.

Plus, the bans are often delayed, so that the hackers can't be sure which hack got them banned, and they can't warn the others about the details.

[Nman]

So this is not helpful, i've spoken to many players and they all avoid the same server and its a common problem in Australia that isn't helpful. there isn't other deathmatch servers on office grouping so 1 player gets have a private server and excludes everyone else. Not sure why that is cool or supported by steam. I've heard from others they reported them but nothing they can do because the analysis team at steam are slow and often not on the side of no false positives. Most people just ignore the situation and move on, unfortunately the other maps are huge and slow. Pretty disappointed that game play is so severly affected by 1 player.

All you need is 1 player to run twos instances of CSGO on other computers (or Virtual machines) join the same server, and start kicking everyone out. you can effectively OWN a server by doing this and steam are doing nothing about it.

[crunchyfrog]

Nman eredeti hozzászólása:

So this is not helpful, i've spoken to many players and they all avoid the same server and its a common problem in Australia that isn't helpful. there isn't other deathmatch servers on office grouping so 1 player gets have a private server and excludes everyone else. Not sure why that is cool or supported by steam. I've heard from others they reported them but nothing they can do because the analysis team at steam are slow and often not on the side of no false positives. Most people just ignore the situation and move on, unfortunately the other maps are huge and slow. Pretty disappointed that game play is so severly affected by 1 player.

All you need is 1 player to run twos instances of CSGO on other computers (or Virtual machines) join the same server, and start kicking everyone out. you can effectively OWN a server by doing this and steam are doing nothing about it.

You still seem to be misunderstanding how the VAC system works.

It's not that it's slow to respond and false positives. That has nothing to do with it.

It's because the system is DELIBERATELY time delayed. If an idiot cheats, then it triggers the VAC system. If it banned immediately, or soon after, it would enable the cheater to easily work out which cheat caused the ban and they could then circumvent it easier.

But it starts a counter and any point in the next 30 days or so means they will get banned. And the beauty of that is that they won't know cheat triggered it.

That's the point.

I know it sucks with limited options in Australia, but you could try elsewhere close by too if you're really stuck.

[Nman]

thanks i understand that regarding the wall hacking, the point here is that even if they weren't cheating they can dominate and own a server with only 2 clone accounts. Nothing can be done about that until steam chances its kick ban policies.

My suggestion is kickban cooldown timer for a single set of players or a limit on how often they can vote to kick ban someone, and in cases where there is limited players, increase critical mass before kick bans can come into affect.

[crunchyfrog]

Nman eredeti hozzászólása:

thanks i understand that regarding the wall hacking, the point here is that even if they weren't cheating they can dominate and own a server with only 2 clone accounts. Nothing can be done about that until steam chances its kick ban policies.

My suggestion is kickban cooldown timer for a single set of players or a limit on how often they can vote to kick ban someone, and in cases where there is limited players, increase critical mass before kick bans can come into affect.

Sorry, but there's no way that'd be implemented as that's easily exploited.

You're someone who's a griefer, say. Go on a server, and get an acoomplice to ban you immediately. You've now got a cooldown to wreak havoc without recompense.

Pro tip - when you think of ANY suggestion to improve a system your first thought MUST be "would this be easily exploitable?"

And sorry, but yes, yours would.

[Snapjak]

So is this on a private server or something? Since it's CS:GO and all... they could just have cheats enabled and VAC disabled you know?

Valve has zero say in what someone does on their private server.

[Nman]

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

Nman eredeti hozzászólása:

thanks i understand that regarding the wall hacking, the point here is that even if they weren't cheating they can dominate and own a server with only 2 clone accounts. Nothing can be done about that until steam chances its kick ban policies.

My suggestion is kickban cooldown timer for a single set of players or a limit on how often they can vote to kick ban someone, and in cases where there is limited players, increase critical mass before kick bans can come into affect.

Sorry, but there's no way that'd be implemented as that's easily exploited.

You're someone who's a griefer, say. Go on a server, and get an acoomplice to ban you immediately. You've now got a cooldown to wreak havoc without recompense.

Pro tip - when you think of ANY suggestion to improve a system your first thought MUST be "would this be easily exploitable?"

And sorry, but yes, yours would.

no, thats not what i'm saying. I'm saying that there should be a cap on how often someone can kick ban or initiate a kick ban. i'm not saying a player gets a cooldown after being kicked banned but the kicker needs a cooldown.

[Nman]

Snapjak eredeti hozzászólása:

So is this on a private server or something? Since it's CS:GO and all... they could just have cheats enabled and VAC disabled you know?

Valve has zero say in what someone does on their private server.

no its public servers.

[-FS17-]

Radene eredeti hozzászólása:

These things take time. Be patient. If they're hacking, and have been reported, they will get their comeuppance.

Plus, the bans are often delayed, so that the hackers can't be sure which hack got them banned, and they can't warn the others about the details.

You are having a laugh right? there are 2 players on COD Ghosts both with multiple accounts and are well known hackers. theses players have been hacking the game for 2+ years still they dont get banned! they also lock the game so the only way out is alt f4. They show your ip address on screen and you get racially abused if you call them out! I have contacted developers and tried steam nobody wants to do anything apart from take your money! VAC is useless! The hackers are here to stay and they know there is nothing that can stop them! one hacker even seem to be able to control the server! I have seen this several times now. hacking is out of control

[crunchyfrog]

Nman eredeti hozzászólása:

crunchyfrog eredeti hozzászólása:

Sorry, but there's no way that'd be implemented as that's easily exploited.

You're someone who's a griefer, say. Go on a server, and get an acoomplice to ban you immediately. You've now got a cooldown to wreak havoc without recompense.

Pro tip - when you think of ANY suggestion to improve a system your first thought MUST be "would this be easily exploitable?"

And sorry, but yes, yours would.

no, thats not what i'm saying. I'm saying that there should be a cap on how often someone can kick ban or initiate a kick ban. i'm not saying a player gets a cooldown after being kicked banned but the kicker needs a cooldown.

Still exploitable.

That's the point. It just works the other way.

Go on their server, and using disposable accounts, bait them into baning. Then go in an wreak havoc.


See? This is precisely why I said before you offer a suggestion NEVER assume you've thought of it first and there isn't some way to exploit it easily.

[Annie]

If you have encountered hackers or any other malicious users, we encourage you to use the report function.

How to Report: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1927-RTSV-6909

Kind regards.