[from reddit]10000 Steam accounts, which were sold by a huge shop, getting banned then unbanned by Steam.

[Mandrake]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/bw7fu6/10000_steam_accounts_which_were_sold_by_a_huge/

Is that true? Just curious.

[Runkel]

Yes, i would trust 100% a info spread by a shady account and key shop's Facebook Page who allegedly uses stolen credit card information to aquire game keys /s

Also the fact that you got these "news" from a social media page yourself doesn't make them any more believable

[ReBoot]

The poster there doubts the validity of the story themselves. I bet though that someone with enough motivation would find solid proof if the story is real.

[Mandrake]

Yes, I don't believe this story. But this is a very popular shop in my country. I hope there will be an official announcemen from Steam about this story.

[ReBoot]

Mandrake a écrit :

Yes, I don't believe this story. But this is a very popular shop in my country. I hope there will be an official announcemen from Steam about this story.

Valve (the people who run Steam) is known for being rather quiet when it comes to announcements & statements. Furthermore, I know I wouldn't bother reacting as reacting to every story on the web would quickly take more time than there is. Don't expect an official statement. Look, if you really care, you can investigate yourself.

[Meatbug]

Even if that were to be true, what's the issue?
If i understand this correctly, the shop sells steam accounts?
That's against Valve's subscriber agreements and i think it's their full right to suspend these accounts. Which would obviously suck for the customers, but that's why you shouldn't buy whole accounts or from some shady shop(s).

[ShelLuser]

Well, I don't believe one word of it, but not just because it sounds utterly ridiculous, I figured I'd try to "do" something...

First: how convenient that the Reddit poster speaks about a Facebook post but doesn't link us to the actual source but only a screenshot. If you want full transparency then linking your sources, even if it's in a foreign language, would be key in my opinion.

Fortunately there's Microsoft OneNote which also supports OCR:

https://i.imgur.com/s7Ubh1n.jpg

So I made 2 screenshots of those alleged Facebook posts, copied the text and fed them into Google Translator. The first thing I can't help but notice is that the translation is pretty gibberish. Really gibberish. I tried Microsoft translation tools as well but that didn't give me any better results either.

But one interesting part caught my eye, you can also see it in the screenshot: "Today, after DivineShop pay for Steam".

They paid for Steam? That kind of contradicts this whole story about stolen or fabricated Steam accounts I'd think. Assuming of course that this is a correct translation. Still, the language is recognized as Vietnamese so I guess there should be some properly translated parts here.

All in all I'm convinced that this is a Reddit troll post in itself. Also because of some snippets I got in the second part: "Use the complete software to buy games, DivineShop scans", "If you want to buy it, you will buy it".

[Mandrake]

Here's the link
https://www.facebook.com/Divine.Shop.Steam/posts/2213441625376721

Arcording to what they said: About 10.000 accounts (the value is about 250.000 $) belong to their customers was banned for unknow reason. So they refunded about 7.500$ to all the account owner. After that they send an email to steam support and one day later all 10.000 accounts was unbanned.

The reason why I am curious about this story is:

1. Why those account was banned?

2. As I said before, this is a very popular shop in Vietnam since most of us are not use to buy games via credit card. If this story is a hoax and that shop use shady methods to make money then may be we will have to face the risk that Steam will block purchases from Vietnam.

[Brian9824]

No one will tell you if its true or not. Steam doesnt comment on bans to any random people who ask about them.

Also steam banned 3.2 trillion of my accounts but i asked them nicely so they gave me em all back. That's totally believable.

[ph0x]

The entire operation is not legal by any means and transfer of account in any instance is in direct violation on Valve's SSA. See 1. C.

C. Your Account

When you complete Steam’s registration process, you create a Steam account ("Account"). Your Account may also include billing information you provide to Valve for the purchase of Subscriptions, Content and Services and any physical goods offered for purchase through Steam (“Hardware”). You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve. You are responsible for the confidentiality of your login and password and for the security of your computer system. Valve is not responsible for the use of your password and Account or for all of the communication and activity on Steam that results from use of your login name and password by you, or by any person to whom you may have intentionally or by negligence disclosed your login and/or password in violation of this confidentiality provision. Unless it results from Valve’s negligence or fault, Valve is not responsible for the use of your Account by a person who fraudulently used your login and password without your permission. If you believe that the confidentiality of your login and/or password may have been compromised, you must notify Valve via the support form (https://support.steampowered.com/newticket.php) without any delay.

Your Account, including any information pertaining to it (e.g.: contact information, billing information, Account history and Subscriptions, etc.), is strictly personal. You may therefore not sell or charge others for the right to use your Account, or otherwise transfer your Account, nor may you sell, charge others for the right to use, or transfer any Subscriptions other than if and as expressly permitted by this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules of Use) or as otherwise specifically permitted by Valve.

[Meatbug]

Mandrake a écrit :

2. As I said before, this is a very popular shop in Vietnam since most of us are not use to buy games via credit card. If this story is a hoax and that shop use shady methods to make money then may be we will have to face the risk that Steam will block purchases from Vietnam.

Just because a shop is popular, doesn't mean they're not operating in grey zones or are doing outright illegal stuff.
They have a section on their homepage (which now seems to be empty) called "Steam Accounts".
If they were selling steam accounts with games on it, you can bet that this shop is shady as f***.

[Count_Dandyman]

Meatbug a écrit :

Mandrake a écrit :

2. As I said before, this is a very popular shop in Vietnam since most of us are not use to buy games via credit card. If this story is a hoax and that shop use shady methods to make money then may be we will have to face the risk that Steam will block purchases from Vietnam.

Just because a shop is popular, doesn't mean they're not operating in grey zones or are doing outright illegal stuff.
They have a section on their homepage (which now seems to be empty) called "Steam Accounts".
If they were selling steam accounts with games on it, you can bet that this shop is shady as f***.

and if they are selling them without games that is even shadier as it means they are either charging people for something that should be free or they are charging for access to something the buyer shouldn't have either from stolen information and details or falsified region settings.

[Kitai]

Meatbug a écrit :

Even if that were to be true, what's the issue?
If i understand this correctly, the shop sells steam accounts?
That's against Valve's subscriber agreements and i think it's their full right to suspend these accounts. Which would obviously suck for the customers, but that's why you shouldn't buy whole accounts or from some shady shop(s).

or buy accounts when they are free to make anyways, oh didnt see the whole accounts part my bad