Shuura Jun 28, 2019 @ 3:20pm
Should you buy a game just to play with friends?
Hello there, thanks for reading my post. It's my first one from as long as I remember.
The title will probably make some people think "of course" and all but there's more to it.

Most if not all my IRL friends play Arma 3 and do co-op from time to time. Seeing how the game's on sale and that I have just enough for it without DLCs, I have been wondering if I should...

You see, FPS aren't really my cup of tea. The one I did play on had some other mechanics that branched from just shooting (I am not trying to insulte the fan of the genre, just keeping it basic) but because of it, my playstyle differs a lot from my said friends...
Seeing the game's reputation, I am not sure if I'd enjoy it. Sure maybe I'd enjoy playing with the friends but the game itself? I wonder... I just can't put words on it.

Part of me want to buy it and try to play with my friends, knowing full well that they couldn't right now and if I wanted to refund the game I probably couldn't. But still, I'd be able to answer if any of them ask if someone's up to play Arma 3 or something.
The other part...is that I'm worried that I don't seem to spend time with them and I'm trying too hard, I don't share a lot of interests with them. Lots of time, I do feel like they could have a better time without me. It creeps into other territories, like how some recent events in my life is being a burden but I can't find the right time to talk about it...

I want to play with my friends but I want to play a game I would be sure all of us would enjoy. I'm just not sure it would be Arma 3....I am the only one in the group that don't play it so maybe I'm just being stubborn and worry for nothing.

What would you guys think? (Guys as in a general term, no gender specifics '-')
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SeansShow Jun 28, 2019 @ 3:46pm 
It's niche mil sim shooter that even I as a fan of FPS games and someone that had Operation Flashpoint day one struggle to get into. I respect the game, the modding capabilities are amazing, the legacy of the games modding scene is well known (PlayerUnkonwn), likewise the ballistics engine but it's for a certain type of person, needs a beefy PC as well.

Sounds like you're trying too hard to please your friends, easy for me to say as im possibly older than you and have the traits of an older person but you can show interest in your friends in other ways, doing something which you sound fairly certain you wont enjoy IMO isnt a good way to go about it.

You can of course try if for the 2 hour window that I think Steam gives you and refund if it isnt your thing. I think Arma run the odd free weekend here and there as well, not 100% though as I've owned it for some time. :ss13ok:
wizardlink Jun 28, 2019 @ 3:48pm 
Ok so let's start from the beginning. Money wise, if you really want it you should. Because 66% is the lowest Arma 3 has gotten, and I doubt it'll lower from that in the future.

Concerning the game itself, ask yourself if you like simulation games. If you do, that's a huge step. Afterwards, ask if you are interested in role playing. If you can comply with these two, I can confidently say that if you are in the right party of friends, you are going to have a lot of fun! It may take some time to get used to as it has a lot of keybinds and it can be scary as most of the time there will be lack of action. However in the end of the day, it is a war simulator.

I would honestly say "yes" but it is complicated to do when you do not have such a tight relation with them. It actually concerns me if you will actually have fun when you have those doubts.

If you have any question, feel free to make, I'd gladly answer.
Silenghtning Jun 28, 2019 @ 4:11pm 
It depends. Sometimes you may even buy the game for your friends and they wont even play with you. If you need a reliable friend to play with, hit me up. I'll play any game you buy me with you. :steamhappy:
Shuura Jun 28, 2019 @ 4:21pm 
Well....it's going to be awkward now. ^^'
As I was reading the first two comments (Btw thanks SeansShow and wizardlink and Silenghtning, your comments were clear about the game or wholesome or both), I got curious and looked into the race event...
I don't usually look into the events but as I saw that you can turn your achievements in points, then exchange those points for things... I just happened to have enough points for the cash reduction (I guess it change depending of your country? got a minus 5.-) and got the game for 5.20.-, so even if it's a loss and I don't enjoy it that much, I don't think I'll cry over that much money...or so I say but I've probably raised a couple of flags and I'll regret it later.

But your kind words were one of the last few pushes that lead me to buy the game. I'll try to remember to send you a message later to tell you afterward how it went.

Have a nice day, and if you're in europe right now...try to survive that freaking heat wave, you're not alone in this Sche!sse
wizardlink Jun 28, 2019 @ 4:24pm 
I am at Brazil, so I am dying of coldness. Have a good day as well and a wonderful weekend! :birdsledit:
ShelLuser Jun 28, 2019 @ 7:53pm 
Originally posted by Bell J.:
You see, FPS aren't really my cup of tea. The one I did play on had some other mechanics that branched from just shooting (I am not trying to insulte the fan of the genre, just keeping it basic) but because of it, my playstyle differs a lot from my said friends...
Keep in mind that Arma 3 is much more than "just a FPS game".

If you don't like FPS then don't worry! You can also drive tanks (either as driver, gunner or maybe the commander), you could become a drone operator (play with remote devices to support your team), maybe becoming a helicopter or jet pilot to provide air support is more your style?, heck... maybe becoming a supporting character in that jet or helicopter is your thing (if flying (which can be tricky!) isn't appealing maybe you could be a gunner)....

And even if you do end up in the infantry (military unit), don't think that it's only about shooting. Heck no... You could become a medic, so your role would be to stay out of the line of fire as much as possible and help any of your injured team mates. Maybe a communications officier: you'd relay all the info your team gathers to the guys "above" (or another team).

.... and, you could request to become Zeus.

Arma is still a sandbox and a sandbox still needs toys to play with. Although Arma's AI can be decent (it's not all the time!) everyone will agree that nothing beats going up against a player. Enter Zeus: where a game master basically controls the whole thing and who can dynamically add or remove troops and props and stuff as the game progresses.

That's where Zeus comes into play: that's the player who can control the whole lot.

And as for Arma itself... it doesn't even end there. If you're the creative type of player you're gonna love the Eden editor: just make your own scenarios and adventures. Better yet: maybe you could build something then play all of that with your friends?


Just a few things coming to mind. But I need to stress this out once more: Arma 3 is more than just an FPS game where you run around to shoot others. Just be creative about it.
Tesityr Jun 28, 2019 @ 11:39pm 
If I may, you should never do anything 'just because of your friends'... anything. As for this game, they might not have time to play with you, or want to play too often for you, or not play the same way as you (which can lead to conflict in your relationship(s)).

Get a game and play it because you like it. If it happens that your friends like it too, play together. If you don't quite play the same playstyle, try to compromise or find a happy medium flow between the two.

But don't get/do something 'just for your friends'. You will only make yourself feel regret and things might not even work out as you hoped... It is the same with anything - don't pretend to like Shrimp when all of your other friends like Shrimp and you don't. They will want you to eat Shrimp with them on weekends, at restaurants or ordering it in... you'll get sick of Shrimp and will slowly fill with contempt - all because you 'faked liking something'. Never do that.

That being said, it is a lot of fun when it works out with friends (play the same game, play the same way, have the same amount of time to play, etc). A lot of games I kept playing in the past simply because my friends were playing them. I also moved on to my own games, even though my friends were playing the older games.

In the end, it's your choice. You should never follow others just because they are doing something, though - IRL as well as in gaming - it only leads to unhappiness. HTH
Last edited by Tesityr; Jun 28, 2019 @ 11:41pm
kornflakes89 Jun 29, 2019 @ 12:07am 
No. Never buy a game just because it's a game your friends play. I've made that mistake with For Honor, The Division and Borderlands 1 and 2. Even while playing with my gaming buddies, I never enjoyed playing any of them, each of them were games that I wasn't interested in buying for myself and it was a waste of money each time.

You're better off finding a coop game you know you'd like and asking your friends if they'd like it too.
Shuura Jun 29, 2019 @ 6:05am 
Well, here's an update:

-Asked the friend that's actually the biggest fan of the game about it
-Said friend lost his custom campaign recently and can't make more until the end of his exams.
-Tell me the gist of it outside of the tutorial stage
-Also tells me that there's more than FPS to it but not being into it in the first place may make it hard to enjoy it.
-Tell him that the game seems nice and all but can't see myself play it at all.

Ended up asking for a refund and wishing the friend good luck in his exams

I guess it would be the end of the story for me, but you all gave good advices for that kind of situation and I guess that would be usefull for someone else to stumble on it later on.
'Bacardi Jun 29, 2019 @ 6:11am 
...Arma 3 is fun, but it mostly not run well in any computer. And sometimes it lack players in multiplayer
Shuura Jun 29, 2019 @ 6:12am 
Originally posted by Bacardi:
...Arma 3 is fun, but it mostly not run well in any computer. And sometimes it lack players in multiplayer
I didn't met any problem to run it actually, just not into it
Tesityr Jun 29, 2019 @ 6:15am 
Thanks for the Update

[lol this reminds me of how-many-many-times in life it has occurred that: I've "worried and worried about something (or something going on with other people) - and it turned out to be nowhere near as bad as I was worried about (in the end)" :P ]
Aahzmandias Jun 29, 2019 @ 6:59am 
I noticed in your whole "speech", that you never once mentioned what games YOU like. I think your problems starts exact at that point. You try to please others, and sacrifice the things you like. You sacrifice them so far, that you do not even speak about them.

If you tell us, what games you like, we are able to find some good ones, that you can play with others. PvP, or PvE. I like PvE games, I do not like PvP games at all, except maybe strategic PvP games.

And for your friends: Speak with them, and tell them what games YOU want to play with them. If they refuse, shrug your shoulders, move on and search for other people with similar interests like you to play games with. DO not waste time in your spare time with things you don't like. That does your job aklready for you. You have to be able to relax, not get more anxious.
Last edited by Aahzmandias; Jun 29, 2019 @ 7:00am
Zero, Dark Knight Jun 29, 2019 @ 7:04am 
I think the best thing to do if you want to play with your friends is sit down and talk to them, if they respect you and you respect them, you can probably find a better game that all of you enjoy, or they can help you learn how to enjoy the game if you're interested in buying and playing it.
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