Upgrade PS3 games to PS4 games

[gewoon ik]

Sony announced that you have to pay a fee to upgrade your PS3 games to PS4 games.
I dont really get it, if you pay the fee, do you get a "better" version of the game with better graphics or something?
Or do you have to pay to simply be able to play the game?

[Traya Tyto]

I'm geussing #2.

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

Probably mostly multiplatform games to begin with, easier to port I bet. I'm sure they can turn on fsaa, but time optimizing/making it look better for 10 dollars is going to be a big ask. Since the new consoles are just pc's I guess you might just be buying a gimped pc version.

[gewoon ik]

Yeah, I expected it to be #2, knowing how greedy companies can be these days.
Because I skipped this gen of consoles, I was planning to buy a PS4 and play some titles I missed from PS3, but if they're going to ask 10-20 dollars (euros where I live), I might just wait until they release titles like GTA V on PC.
But thanks for the replies anyway.

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

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Yeah, I expected it to be #2, knowing how greedy companies can be these days.
Because I skipped this gen of consoles, I was planning to buy a PS4 and play some titles I missed from PS3, but if they're going to ask 10-20 dollars (euros where I live), I might just wait until they release titles like GTA V on PC.
But thanks for the replies anyway.

Anyways relying on sony for backwards compatibility is a fools erand...remember ps3's ps2 backward compatbility? Removed the second they could get away with it. Same with linux. Sony will always say all sorts of things to make themselvse look good to the fanboys.

[Spawn of Totoro]

From what I can tell, priceing will be up to the developer for th conversion.

I wouldn't count on using PS3 games on the PS4 though.

One of the reasons I dropped consoles. Only one left is a Wii for my son...though he is asking for Skylanders now.

[gewoon ik]

I have another question: all the articles say that AC IV or COD can be played on the PS4 for a fee. But these are all recent games, so what about older games, Skate 3 by example. Do you have to pay for them too or are they unplayable on PS4?
Idk if you could make this up from the news, but I'm just curious what you think.

[Marble]

Older games would have to be streamed (in similar fashion to Onlive and Gaikai), as the PS4 cannot play PS3 games natively.

[©●◌Marie◌●©]

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Older games would have to be streamed (in similar fashion to Onlive and Gaikai), as the PS4 cannot play PS3 games natively.

It can play them, just they won't tell you. Just to make more money.

[Marble]

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Older games would have to be streamed (in similar fashion to Onlive and Gaikai), as the PS4 cannot play PS3 games natively.

It can play them, just they won't tell you. Just to make more money.

It can't. PS4 is x86, PS3 is CBE. Totally different architectures. All games would need to be re-programmed.

[gewoon ik]

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©●◌Marie◌●© eredeti hozzászólása:

It can play them, just they won't tell you. Just to make more money.

It can't. PS4 is x86, PS3 is CBE. Totally different architectures. All games would need to be re-programmed.

Well that's a shame. Could've expected this from Sony though.
I don't know how hard or expensive it is to make a console backwards compatible, but if Nintendo can do it, why wouldn't Sony be able to do it?!
I think it's just a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ move from a greedy company.
Especially because you have to pay for the more recent games. There is DRM, microtransactions, paying for online service,...And now paying to play games on the next console. So yeah, PC-gaming wins again?

[Marble]

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but if Nintendo can do it, why wouldn't Sony be able to do it?!

Because the Wii and Wii U both use PowerPC-based microprocessors.

A good example is Mac OS when they were at version 9. Mac's had always run on PowerPC hardware until they switched to x86 the same as PC's when OSX was released. None of the previous software would work natively because it was a different architecture.

[gewoon ik]

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but if Nintendo can do it, why wouldn't Sony be able to do it?!

Because the Wii and Wii U both use PowerPC-based microprocessors.

A good example is Mac OS when they were at version 9. Mac's had always run on PowerPC hardware until they switched to x86 the same as PC's when OSX was released. None of the previous software would work natively because it was a different architecture.

I don't really know anything about this technical stuff, but it seems logical.
But still, wouldn't it be cheaper if they made something to make the PS4 backwards compatible? Can't they insert 2 microprocessors or something? (again, I know nothing about the technical aspect)
And also, older articles say clearly that the console was going to be backwards compatible.
So it is can be done but Sony wants to make as much moneys as possible?

[Marble]

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Because the Wii and Wii U both use PowerPC-based microprocessors.

A good example is Mac OS when they were at version 9. Mac's had always run on PowerPC hardware until they switched to x86 the same as PC's when OSX was released. None of the previous software would work natively because it was a different architecture.

I don't really know anything about this technical stuff, but it seems logical.
But still, wouldn't it be cheaper if they made something to make the PS4 backwards compatible? Can't they insert 2 microprocessors or something? (again, I know nothing about the technical aspect)
And also, older articles say clearly that the console was going to be backwards compatible.
So it is can be done but Sony wants to make as much moneys as possible?

They did that with the first batch of PS3's so they could play PS2 games. It ended up costing too much and was removed shortly after release.

Older articles prior to the announcement were based on speculation, they wouldn't have known.

[gewoon ik]

Really? I thought they confirmed it.
This is really making me doubt whether or not I want to buy one, but I guess I'm just going to wait and see if some more good games get announced and then make a decision.

So, all my questions are anwsered, thanks!

[©●◌Marie◌●©]

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gewoon ik eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't really know anything about this technical stuff, but it seems logical.
But still, wouldn't it be cheaper if they made something to make the PS4 backwards compatible? Can't they insert 2 microprocessors or something? (again, I know nothing about the technical aspect)
And also, older articles say clearly that the console was going to be backwards compatible.
So it is can be done but Sony wants to make as much moneys as possible?

They did that with the first batch of PS3's so they could play PS2 games. It ended up costing too much and was removed shortly after release.

Older articles prior to the announcement were based on speculation, they wouldn't have known.

It wasn't costing too much, they just noticed PS2 were still selling great to they choosed to sell PS2 in addition of PS3 rather than only PS3.