Why do people hate YouTube reviewers like Angry Joe and Total Biscuit?

[Master Zone]

As the title says, why do people hate YouTube reviewers like Angry Joe and Total Biscuit?
I know that their fans can be annoying how they spam their videos, but why do people hate them so much? What is your opinion on this matter?



My opinion:

In a day and age where the so called "real" reviewers are bought out and too afraid to get their panties wet to give us a real review, these guys are more important than ever, I think.

People don't like AngryJoe because of how he sometimes blows his top and expresses some things in an uncivil way at times, and others don't like how TB is opinionated. But the thing is we need people like this today, sometimes we need people to tell it to us like it really is, without the sugar coating! Sometimes I get sick of seeing the "real" reviewers never crossing the line, never asking the hard questions because they don't want to lose their sponsors and being too afraid that they may offend someone.

[Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart]

I don't like reviews that are made live, main exception would probably be first impressions but even some that aren't scripted get pretty bad to watch...

[Energy]

Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart původně napsal:

I don't watch TotalBiscuit but I do find Angry Joe pretty annoying a lot of times.

Eye Play Games původně napsal:

totalbiscuit is like the mature part of the youtube community, so its probably fanboys hating him because he gave "Call Of Duty" or something a bad review.

The Hipsterness reeks from the depths...

what the ♥♥♥♥ is your problem

[Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart]

Eye Play Games původně napsal:

what the ♥♥♥♥ is your problem

Your hatred and obsession of the COD series is unnecessary. Do you honesty believe that COD fanboys are the reason why TotalBiscuit isn't liked by everyone?

[Un*******iveSam]

Fork_Q původně napsal:

Maximinus83 původně napsal:

This is a personal preference I can get behind,sadly it seems they are moving more and more away from this.

Agree with both. TB's video reviews have more content then a written review, but an lot of it is repetition, spent too long on certain points you don't care about, unstructured and frustrating to watch because he is mentally trying to both play a game and talk about it (messing both up). Also, his reviews are too damned long, a good written review could cover the important facts of the game in a piece that takes 5-10 minutes to read, as opposed to a 45 minute video.

Would be better if TB just talked over a pre-recorded game, skip to different parts of the game instead of just talking about it, and try to summarise the important points of his review at the last few minutes of the video. But he won't.

TotalBiscuit does first impressions not reviews meaning skipping parts of the game doesn't really work (althought he does do it sometimes) and how usually does do a summary towards the end of his vids

TB does long vids because it's something that isn't done by many others and it's what his community wants. There no need for him to pander to that market when there are a million other YTers who do that content

[Fork_Q2]

War_Pig_s původně napsal:

Fork_Q původně napsal:

Agree with both. TB's video reviews have more content then a written review, but an lot of it is repetition, spent too long on certain points you don't care about, unstructured and frustrating to watch because he is mentally trying to both play a game and talk about it (messing both up). Also, his reviews are too damned long, a good written review could cover the important facts of the game in a piece that takes 5-10 minutes to read, as opposed to a 45 minute video.

Would be better if TB just talked over a pre-recorded game, skip to different parts of the game instead of just talking about it, and try to summarise the important points of his review at the last few minutes of the video. But he won't.

TotalBiscuit does first impressions not reviews meaning skipping parts of the game doesn't really work (althought he does do it sometimes) and how usually does do a summary towards the end of his vids

TB does long vids because it's something that isn't done by many others and it's what his community wants. There no need for him to pander to that market when there are a million other YTers who do that content

Is there really a meaningful distinction between the two? He has referred to his "WTF" videos as "reviews" too, I'm pretty sure he has. His YouTube blurb says this about the WTF series: "John TotalBiscuit Bain produces the most popular gaming first impression series on Youtube. This is the place to get a longer, more honest look at the games you are interested in buying. This is uncut, unaltered gameplay with live commentary which analyses and critiques the title. WTF is? is like a game demo that's played for you which focuses on giving you all the information you need to make a smart purchase decision." - 'critique', 'analysis', 'commentary', 'all the information you need to make a smart purchase decision'; essentially a review of sorts in all but name.

Fair enough about the length and not skipping parts, as that is his UPS thing (though personally not a fan of it). Does he sum up the review in the end of his videos? I'm not sure, a summary should just be a bullet point list of pros and cons mentioned, followed by conclusion and whether it is worth the asking price. TB sorts of just gives his general disposition towards the game and maybe decides if it is worth the full price or not. Personally I'd prefer if his reviews were a bit more structured and he didn't have to juggle between playing and talking, but that's just me.

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

I don't like angry joe simply because he is a liar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lzGQZBNd3Y
No retractions.
He simply lied through his teeth on the subject as proven by that in depth video which even puts a timer on the segments in question. Angry joe is a sjw, and they are people who angrily rant about supposed injustice while commiting their own, they are hypocrites who smear innocent people. He clearly lacks integrity to have gone that far and be so callous, he has a platform and he used it to damage people who actually produce content, and for what? To side with those who aren't even really interested in this hobby at all...its a joke.

[Un*******iveSam]

Fork_Q původně napsal:

War_Pig_s původně napsal:

TotalBiscuit does first impressions not reviews meaning skipping parts of the game doesn't really work (althought he does do it sometimes) and how usually does do a summary towards the end of his vids

TB does long vids because it's something that isn't done by many others and it's what his community wants. There no need for him to pander to that market when there are a million other YTers who do that content

Is there really a meaningful distinction between the two? He has referred to his "WTF" videos as "reviews" too, I'm pretty sure he has. His YouTube blurb says this about the WTF series: "John TotalBiscuit Bain produces the most popular gaming first impression series on Youtube. This is the place to get a longer, more honest look at the games you are interested in buying. This is uncut, unaltered gameplay with live commentary which analyses and critiques the title. WTF is? is like a game demo that's played for you which focuses on giving you all the information you need to make a smart purchase decision." - 'critique', 'analysis', 'commentary', 'all the information you need to make a smart purchase decision'; essentially a review of sorts in all but name.

Fair enough about the length and not skipping parts, as that is his UPS thing (though personally not a fan of it). Does he sum up the review in the end of his videos? I'm not sure, a summary should just be a bullet point list of pros and cons mentioned, followed by conclusion and whether it is worth the asking price. TB sorts of just gives his general disposition towards the game and maybe decides if it is worth the full price or not. Personally I'd prefer if his reviews were a bit more structured and he didn't have to juggle between playing and talking, but that's just me.

i agree that his "WTF" vids are mostly if not completely unstructured (i'm mostly fine with this) and he does repeat him self quite alot (this can be irritating) and by summary did i mean that general disposition towards the game and maybe decides if it is worth the full price or not. i never felt that he needed bullet points or a script myself because others can do that much better than TB ever could.

[Fork_Q2]

War_Pig_s původně napsal:

Fork_Q původně napsal:

Is there really a meaningful distinction between the two? He has referred to his "WTF" videos as "reviews" too, I'm pretty sure he has. His YouTube blurb says this about the WTF series: "John TotalBiscuit Bain produces the most popular gaming first impression series on Youtube. This is the place to get a longer, more honest look at the games you are interested in buying. This is uncut, unaltered gameplay with live commentary which analyses and critiques the title. WTF is? is like a game demo that's played for you which focuses on giving you all the information you need to make a smart purchase decision." - 'critique', 'analysis', 'commentary', 'all the information you need to make a smart purchase decision'; essentially a review of sorts in all but name.

Fair enough about the length and not skipping parts, as that is his UPS thing (though personally not a fan of it). Does he sum up the review in the end of his videos? I'm not sure, a summary should just be a bullet point list of pros and cons mentioned, followed by conclusion and whether it is worth the asking price. TB sorts of just gives his general disposition towards the game and maybe decides if it is worth the full price or not. Personally I'd prefer if his reviews were a bit more structured and he didn't have to juggle between playing and talking, but that's just me.

i agree that his "WTF" vids are mostly if not completely unstructured (i'm mostly fine with this) and he does repeat him self quite alot (this can be irritating) and by summary did i mean that general disposition towards the game and maybe decides if it is worth the full price or not. i never felt that he needed bullet points or a script myself because others can do that much better than TB ever could.

Fair enough.

[Un*******iveSam]

MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ původně napsal:

I don't like angry joe simply because he is a liar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lzGQZBNd3Y
No retractions.
He simply lied through his teeth on the subject as proven by that in depth video which even puts a timer on the segments in question. Angry joe is a sjw, and they are people who angrily rant about supposed injustice while commiting their own, they are hypocrites who smear innocent people. He clearly lacks integrity to have gone that far and be so callous, he has a platform and he used it to damage people who actually produce content, and for what? To side with those who aren't even really interested in this hobby at all...its a joke.

He ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up one ONE fact. so what? there no need to discard his reviews compleatly just because he ♥♥♥♥ on ONE fact.

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

War_Pig_s původně napsal:

MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ původně napsal:

I don't like angry joe simply because he is a liar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lzGQZBNd3Y
No retractions.
He simply lied through his teeth on the subject as proven by that in depth video which even puts a timer on the segments in question. Angry joe is a sjw, and they are people who angrily rant about supposed injustice while commiting their own, they are hypocrites who smear innocent people. He clearly lacks integrity to have gone that far and be so callous, he has a platform and he used it to damage people who actually produce content, and for what? To side with those who aren't even really interested in this hobby at all...its a joke.

He ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up one ONE fact. so what? there no need to discard his reviews compleatly just because he ♥♥♥♥ on ONE fact.

Did you watch the video? He didn't screw up one fact, he deliberately went out of his way to smear a game and misrepresent the facts. Either he's lazy, or stupid, because he played the game right? Thats HIS JOB. So either he lied about playing it, or just as bad if not worse, he knowingly lied about the game after playing it and knowing better.

A person in his position has a responsibility to not just be fair, but to not abuse his power, his platform. He has a lot of viewers and subscribers so the amount of damage he can do through lies is multiplied by a million. So when he doesn't take responsibility, or even just consider it a thing he should be concerned about, he deserves no respect. He trashed the work of hard working developers and damaged their livelyhood because he mindlessly jumped on a sjw bandwagon. As the saying goes, with great power comes great responsibility. And of course if you are going to get on a moral high horse you best not be a hypocrite.

[Master Zone]

Fork_Q původně napsal:

Maximinus83 původně napsal:

This is a personal preference I can get behind,sadly it seems they are moving more and more away from this.

Agree with both. TB's video reviews have more content then a written review, but an lot of it is repetition, spent too long on certain points you don't care about, unstructured and frustrating to watch because he is mentally trying to both play a game and talk about it (messing both up). Also, his reviews are too damned long, a good written review could cover the important facts of the game in a piece that takes 5-10 minutes to read, as opposed to a 45 minute video.

Would be better if TB just talked over a pre-recorded game, skip to different parts of the game instead of just talking about it, and try to summarise the important points of his review at the last few minutes of the video. But he won't.

TB does first impression style reviews...

[Master Zone]

MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ původně napsal:

I don't like angry joe simply because he is a liar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lzGQZBNd3Y
No retractions.
He simply lied through his teeth on the subject as proven by that in depth video which even puts a timer on the segments in question. Angry joe is a sjw, and they are people who angrily rant about supposed injustice while commiting their own, they are hypocrites who smear innocent people. He clearly lacks integrity to have gone that far and be so callous, he has a platform and he used it to damage people who actually produce content, and for what? To side with those who aren't even really interested in this hobby at all...its a joke.

That video you linked, I stopped watching after the second time he said "nerdy ♥♥♥♥"... The guy seems like a pretentious pseudo intellectual.

[Fork_Q2]

Master Zone původně napsal:

Fork_Q původně napsal:

Agree with both. TB's video reviews have more content then a written review, but an lot of it is repetition, spent too long on certain points you don't care about, unstructured and frustrating to watch because he is mentally trying to both play a game and talk about it (messing both up). Also, his reviews are too damned long, a good written review could cover the important facts of the game in a piece that takes 5-10 minutes to read, as opposed to a 45 minute video.

Would be better if TB just talked over a pre-recorded game, skip to different parts of the game instead of just talking about it, and try to summarise the important points of his review at the last few minutes of the video. But he won't.

TB does first impression style reviews...

Is there a real difference? He even calls them "reviews" and they serve the exact same function as them.

[Fork_Q2]

Master Zone původně napsal:

MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™ původně napsal:

I don't like angry joe simply because he is a liar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lzGQZBNd3Y
No retractions.
He simply lied through his teeth on the subject as proven by that in depth video which even puts a timer on the segments in question. Angry joe is a sjw, and they are people who angrily rant about supposed injustice while commiting their own, they are hypocrites who smear innocent people. He clearly lacks integrity to have gone that far and be so callous, he has a platform and he used it to damage people who actually produce content, and for what? To side with those who aren't even really interested in this hobby at all...its a joke.

That video you linked, I stopped watching after the second time he said "nerdy ♥♥♥♥"... The guy seems like a pretentious pseudo intellectual.

Probably posted by a Redditor then, look at the title of the video.

[Mr. Tex]

I do enjoy watching TotalBiscuit and AngryJoe actually play games.

However their reviews tend to be:
* overly nit-picky & simple-minded
* inconsistent & hypocritical
* rude & childish
* dishonest (TotalBiscuit)

How seriously should you take reviewers that consider '♥♥♥♥' to be a useful adjective ?
At least professional reviewers at GameSpot and IGN can express themselves properly.

TotalBiscuit in particular lacks the ability to see things from other perspectives.
For someone who is marketed as 'the smart guy" he is extremely narrow-minded.

AngryJoe only reviews games that he is actually interested in, this is very honest of him.

TB on the otherhand will review games that he knows he doesn't like, its cheap and dishonest.

Why ?
Reviewers place themselves in the role of a potential purchaser.
This should assume they are actually interested in the game or at least somewhat objective.
If they can't be objective they should only review games they are interested in.

This is not just a critique of TB but also of GameSpot, IGN, Rev3, GiantBomb and the rest.

True, TB does not call his WTFs a 'review' but the fact is that people who watch them use as reviews. So in practical terms they ARE reviews.