apathy 15. feb. kl. 7.56
Wait I actually hate games now?
I've come to the realization that I absolutely hate games because I absolutely hate losing over and over. I stink at games, and the older I get the worse I become. I hate how others rub it in and get enjoyment from my hate and losing cycle. Losing makes me hate other people long after the games ended. But I'm not a troll either. I can't choose chaos just because I can't win. I don't get a high from ruining someone else's day.

I've always been this way. Never happy when I win. Hateful when I lose. Gotta face the facts - I'll never change. I'll never improve. I'll never learn. I'll never get skill. Its my nature.

So what now? There's nothing else to do in this meaningless life...

Maybe... some people including myself aren't meant to ever be happy in whatever they do. Be it work or play. Maybe this is the core of the problem.
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GunsForBucks 15. feb. kl. 8.15 
I made an overpowered mod for Oblivion

100% chameleon ring I named precious

One hit kill and soul trap weapon

bunch of Azura stars

Made the gear from custom sigil stones I tweaked Carry weight buff health and buff magic.

It's fun without being difficult. And I can tweak the stones if I want more challenge.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3427910636
Sist redigert av GunsForBucks; 15. feb. kl. 8.17
A perfect opportunity to become a "content creator" or "influencer" on youtube, so you can tell everyone how you hate all these things.

And then people will give you money for it.
Supersquid 15. feb. kl. 8.37 
Play Minecraft.
salamander 15. feb. kl. 8.39 
i mean your last part makes me concerned that this is not being just about video games. if you are truly feeling that it is difficult for you to be happy, you must seek help. and if this "help" does not work, keep trying. i have been in and out of therapy for a decade, and i have learned to "cope" with my illnesses and try my hardest to live my life. therapy will not make you happy, but it will give you the tools to survive.

but as for video games. consider what gunsforbucks has said. mod games, transform yourself into a "god"with little resistance. or turn down difficulty settings all the way. not all are wishing for challenge from games, that is okay. some just are wanting to be relaxed, so do not be stressing yourself out. and definitely do not play pvp games or nothing like this, as those are always stressful on some level.
Games suck now. We follow the flow for the controversies and trolling. Those are still fun.
TheHogfather 15. feb. kl. 11.17 
Stardew valley
Nintendo games
Untitled goose game
Thank goodness you're here!
oldirty` 15. feb. kl. 11.23 
Its just a phase, you will get over it and enjoy them again when you have internalized that it doesnt ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ matter.
Goblin 15. feb. kl. 11.23 
I would recommend more single player games. Multiplayer PvP nowadays doesn't feel worth it to me personally unless I'm playing with a large group of friends. Even then we usually find something more coop.

Sorry your going through this, but it's a good realization to have. Losing in a game hardly determines your worth at all.

Even if you wanted to go back later on, a break can give you some clarity and a clear mind.

Hope this helps
apathy 16. feb. kl. 6.43 
Opprinnelig skrevet av salamander:
i mean your last part makes me concerned that this is not being just about video games. if you are truly feeling that it is difficult for you to be happy, you must seek help. and if this "help" does not work, keep trying. i have been in and out of therapy for a decade, and i have learned to "cope" with my illnesses and try my hardest to live my life. therapy will not make you happy, but it will give you the tools to survive.
You and gunsforbucks probably both right. Games are supposed to be escapism, and I find my unhappiness follows me into games. This is probably why I feel so empty winning, and so angry losing.

Though I will say, coding games, tweaking mods, patching games, is far more stressful than I ever could've imagined. I am not a programmer or software engineer.


Opprinnelig skrevet av TheHogfather:
Nintendo games
I find a lot of them, whether they are older harder games, or current gen ones like Smash Bros online, make me unhappy. I think its partly because, losing against friends can be very funny. Heck, Party Crashers made a whole channel about it. Losing against strangers who want to repeatedly s**t on you for no reason, and make you look like a n00b in front of others oblivious to you being targeted, is infuriating.


Opprinnelig skrevet av Goblin:
I would recommend more single player games. Multiplayer PvP nowadays doesn't feel worth it to me personally unless I'm playing with a large group of friends. Even then we usually find something more coop.

Sorry your going through this, but it's a good realization to have. Losing in a game hardly determines your worth at all.

Even if you wanted to go back later on, a break can give you some clarity and a clear mind.

Hope this helps
I will take your advice. Thank you.
TheHogfather 16. feb. kl. 6.57 
Opprinnelig skrevet av apathy:
Opprinnelig skrevet av salamander:
i mean your last part makes me concerned that this is not being just about video games. if you are truly feeling that it is difficult for you to be happy, you must seek help. and if this "help" does not work, keep trying. i have been in and out of therapy for a decade, and i have learned to "cope" with my illnesses and try my hardest to live my life. therapy will not make you happy, but it will give you the tools to survive.
You and gunsforbucks probably both right. Games are supposed to be escapism, and I find my unhappiness follows me into games. This is probably why I feel so empty winning, and so angry losing.

Though I will say, coding games, tweaking mods, patching games, is far more stressful than I ever could've imagined. I am not a programmer or software engineer.


Opprinnelig skrevet av TheHogfather:
Nintendo games
I find a lot of them, whether they are older harder games, or current gen ones like Smash Bros online, make me unhappy. I think its partly because, losing against friends can be very funny. Heck, Party Crashers made a whole channel about it. Losing against strangers who want to repeatedly s**t on you for no reason, and make you look like a n00b in front of others oblivious to you being targeted, is infuriating.


Opprinnelig skrevet av Goblin:
I would recommend more single player games. Multiplayer PvP nowadays doesn't feel worth it to me personally unless I'm playing with a large group of friends. Even then we usually find something more coop.

Sorry your going through this, but it's a good realization to have. Losing in a game hardly determines your worth at all.

Even if you wanted to go back later on, a break can give you some clarity and a clear mind.

Hope this helps
I will take your advice. Thank you.
Bro that's the single most competitive Nintendo game there is. Ofc I didn't mean ssbu, I meant the newest Kirby or Yoshi game or smthn

Also if you want to beat your friends in smash just pick sora and learn how to reverse neutral b. You will win most of your matches I guarantee
Sist redigert av TheHogfather; 16. feb. kl. 7.20
You have skill issue and cant cope with it.
hehexd 16. feb. kl. 7.34 
Yeah ageing sucks but you can mitigate it with exercise and not being mentally ill. Theres always a choice
apathy 16. feb. kl. 7.49 
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You have skill issue and cant cope with it.
If that were true, then why do I feel so unhappy whenever I win, or get a winning streak?

I've often lost loads of games against a pro, and when I finally beat them once, they ragequit. I feel emptier than ever, like as if I'm expected to put up with their entitled s**t online, and I'm the bad guy when I do have some small victory.

Its not skill its...


Opprinnelig skrevet av hehexd:
Yeah ageing sucks but you can mitigate it with exercise and not being mentally ill. Theres always a choice
Yeah its that. My mental health. Less and less things are making me happy. Games were a sanctuary, an oasis in the desert, and now its drying up.

I've tried intense workouts, all I get is musculoskeletal pain that lingers for weeks. Sucks that only drugs and drink seem to "loosen me up" enough to stop the frowning and the bitterness.
hehexd 16. feb. kl. 7.56 
Opprinnelig skrevet av apathy:
Opprinnelig skrevet av .happybutcher.:
You have skill issue and cant cope with it.
If that were true, then why do I feel so unhappy whenever I win, or get a winning streak?

I've often lost loads of games against a pro, and when I finally beat them once, they ragequit. I feel emptier than ever, like as if I'm expected to put up with their entitled s**t online, and I'm the bad guy when I do have some small victory.

Its not skill its...


Opprinnelig skrevet av hehexd:
Yeah ageing sucks but you can mitigate it with exercise and not being mentally ill. Theres always a choice
Yeah its that. My mental health. Less and less things are making me happy. Games were a sanctuary, an oasis in the desert, and now its drying up.

I've tried intense workouts, all I get is musculoskeletal pain that lingers for weeks. Sucks that only drugs and drink seem to "loosen me up" enough to stop the frowning and the bitterness.
Why are you frowning? Is our world ♥♥♥♥ and we have to die one day?
Haruspex 16. feb. kl. 8.05 
Opprinnelig skrevet av apathy:
I've come to the realization that I absolutely hate games because I absolutely hate losing over and over. I stink at games, and the older I get the worse I become.
Different people play different games for different reasons. Sounds like you are playing to "win", rather than for the experience or story or what-have-you.

Opprinnelig skrevet av apathy:
I hate how others rub it in and get enjoyment from my hate and losing cycle. Losing makes me hate other people long after the games ended.
So you're playing multiplayer games. Have you considered single-player games? Perhaps at a difficulty level that is more comfortable for you.

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So what now? There's nothing else to do in this meaningless life...
Play different games for reasons other than what you're doing now. If you're not having fun, don't just keep doing the same things.
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