Zeno (Porttikiellossa) 16.1.2024 klo 14.12
Would you fight for your country?
Hear me out.

If tomorrow your country gets invaded by another country, perhaps a full scale WW3 scenario.

Would you try to dodge the draft and somehow get out of it or would you wait for them to draft you, cooperate or hell..even volunteer ?

And why ?


I personally would not fight for my country and would try to avoid the draft by leaving my country.
But I would probably not hide in some forest shed's basement for years and probably " turn myself in " at some point... Unless there is a way to really leave the country for me or somehow maintain a little quality in my life. Basically like most Ukrainian men handle it, I would as well.
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Zeno (Porttikiellossa) 19.1.2024 klo 4.18 
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China ?
Indonesia?
Here in Indonesia we still got donated australian bushmaster as troop transport. I don't think we're in position to invade Australia.

Indonesia has one of the biggest military on the planet and once it starts to expand on its technology and naval capabilities, its a major thread and could even invade a country like Russia.
A&A 19.1.2024 klo 4.18 
Wars are stupid. The legitimacy of my country's government is very low. Who should I fight for when they are more likely to kill themselves?
I might get draftet eventually too if so let it be then I don't really care there's no either option yet I'm here have a job, apartment, cats to care about not like I'm miserable or something I can see myself performing the quotes from "Saving Private Ryan" and hundred of ways getting killed
u stated that u live in germany.. and the second germany will be required to force draft people is the second there will be no safe country on this planet anymore.. good luck hiding!
I was in the army unlike most of you here. I have zero issues with taking up arms to fight anywhere on this planet if my country's security and safety is at stake.
THE LORD lähetti viestin:
I was in the army unlike most of you here. I have zero issues with taking up arms to fight anywhere on this planet if my country's security and safety is at stake.
cool
we'll leave you to it then
19.1.2024 klo 6.08 
Whilst I may not agree with a lot going on in my country's politics, regardless, it is my home. I may not be overly mobile, but set me up in a tower with a rifle and a scope? Sure, I'd have a go.
Leonardo Da Pinchi lähetti viestin:
Whilst I may not agree with a lot going on in my country's politics, regardless, it is my home. I may not be overly mobile, but set me up in a tower with a rifle and a scope? Sure, I'd have a go.
You don't really want to do that in a conventional war. Because they enemy will hit those towers first, with missiles and artillery. LOL.

If that happens, you have nowhere to run to.
19.1.2024 klo 6.18 
THE LORD lähetti viestin:
Leonardo Da Pinchi lähetti viestin:
Whilst I may not agree with a lot going on in my country's politics, regardless, it is my home. I may not be overly mobile, but set me up in a tower with a rifle and a scope? Sure, I'd have a go.
You don't really want to do that in a conventional war. Because they enemy will hit those towers first, with missiles and artillery. LOL.

If that happens, you have nowhere to run to.
Eh, I've lived a good life. If I can be an inconvenience, or make them waste some ordinance, so be it. Besides, they'd need to blow through a fair bit to get past our navy and airforce to get boots on the ground in the first place.
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strandd505 lähetti viestin:
everyone who says no is a punk....
yeah we're based like that


You definitely are something.

Hopefully there will be a man around to protect your wife your kids your neighbors since you wont.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on strandd505; 19.1.2024 klo 7.31
Heck no. lol

My country doesn't really do much to defend itself, so my contribution to that wouldn't do anything either.

Maybe if a small speck like Luxembourg attacks or something.... nah, we probably wouldn't stand a chance then either.
strandd505 lähetti viestin:
everyone who says no is a punk....

We get invaded fools,
they are taking your girl even if you hate america.
I would leave the country if it gets to that point. Drafting isn’t good for moral because you’re making people fight instead of letting people join voluntarily.

What is more of an effective force? A well trained, well organized, cohesive force who is motivated and willing to fight.

Verse

Mediocre and unmotivated/demoralized troops who didn’t want to be in this war?
think so, as long as its not doing blatant evil acts

could u really stand by and let what happened in nanking happen again
Viimeisin muokkaaja on HypersleepyNaputunia; 19.1.2024 klo 7.43
Fighting as a grunt? No way. Fight remotely using a hands on throttle-and-stick, pressing buttons while staring at a monitor like playing a video game, yes, maybe.
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strandd505 lähetti viestin:
everyone who says no is a punk....

We get invaded fools,
they are taking your girl even if you hate america.
I would leave the country if it gets to that point. Drafting isn’t good for moral because you’re making people fight instead of letting people join voluntarily.

What is more of an effective force? A well trained, well organized, cohesive force who is motivated and willing to fight.

Verse

Mediocre and unmotivated/demoralized troops who didn’t want to be in this war?


My thinking is that they are in your town, no one is coming to help, you and yours is all you got. I agree with what you say.
I guess that is worst case scenario and other people arent looking at it that way so maybe my wording has been a little strong but all this antiamerica stuff i see especially from young people annoys me. I think of my grandfather and older people and the stuff they went through for me to have what i do.
They never seen a hard day and it shows, i havent either.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on strandd505; 19.1.2024 klo 7.59
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