Why Is Nintendo So Strict With Their IPs?

[AlphaZeroX96]

I know it's their ips and all, but why won't they allow their characters to show up in games on other consoles? Sony doesn't have a problem with Kratos being on Xbox and Microsoft is fine with Master Chief being on Playstation, so why is Nintendo so different about the concept?

[Bankai9212]

Publicado originalmente por Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍:

This question is just silly.

Nintendo has to defend its IPs, otherwise they actually lose the ability to protect them legally in court or lawsuits.

Second they do offer creators on like YouTube the ability to use their product in videos. All you have to do is apply and there you go.

Meanwhile xbox, sony and any publisher/dev under the sun is fine with that as its free publicity.

[Bankai9212]

Publicado originalmente por gugnihr:

Publicado originalmente por sfnhltb:

IANAL, but from the page of a law firm that does IP work:

"If you don’t take adequate or sufficient, reasonable means to protect and enforce your IP, then you run the risk of losing your IP rights. What is sufficient and reasonable action is not always clear; it depends on the situation."

In general this I think tends to cause companies to pick the occasional really flagrant infringers of their IP to court every few years just to prove they aren't allowing it to slide into the public domain via ignoring mass infringement of it, just so they have a case to point to if someone tries to claim their works are so widely infringed and this has been ignored consistently by the IP owner, so therefore the rights have expired.

Nintendo simply avoid all the most consumer friendly ways to make money (no matrter if they practically CANNOT avoid the downsides of them, they still refuse to make money in friendly consumer ways and just suffer the unavoidable downsides that they would suffer anyway -you know what I mean, right?) but don't miss any chance to try to make money and protect their IPs in ways that will probably make many people angry and mad against them.
This is just dumb and stupid.

Thing is the anger doesn't mean anything, they will still make money look at scarlet and violet. Heck if the newest Zelda is in the same state it wouldn't matter.

[gugnihr]

Publicado originalmente por Bankai9212:

Publicado originalmente por gugnihr:

The Switch is more unique so it jut makes sense that more people are interested in it.
Even if Scumtaro turned it into anti consumer garbage it is still more unique and more interesting than XBox or Playstation.

Its just a handheld something they've done before and what steamdeck does better.

I agree about Steam Deck, the problem is Valve only sell it online, it is something that many people are against when a product cost so much.
I probably would already have one if it was sold in stores near me too. I buy many things online, but not that expensive.

[Devsman]

Maybe somebody who knows more legaljitsu than I do can explain this to me:

Why doesn't all this "if anybody draws a stickman that they say is supposed to look like your IP, you must crush it with extreme force or everything you ever did will go public domain" stuff apply to Capcom or SEGA, who are so fond of fans doing exactly that they have both published fan works themselves?

[Bankai9212]

Publicado originalmente por gugnihr:

Publicado originalmente por Bankai9212:

Its just a handheld something they've done before and what steamdeck does better.

I agree about Steam Deck, the problem is Valve only sell it online, it is something that many people are against when a product cost so much.
I probably would already have one if it was sold in stores near me too. I buy many things online, but not that expensive.

Odd since most game purchases these days are digital, More so with switch games as they are easy to lose/break.

[Bankai9212]

Publicado originalmente por Devsman's Comet:

Maybe somebody who knows more legaljitsu than I do can explain this to me:

Why doesn't all this "if anybody draws a stickman that they say is supposed to look like your IP, you must crush it with extreme force or everything you ever did will go public domain" stuff apply to Capcom or SEGA, who are so fond of fans doing exactly that they have both published fan works themselves?

I couldn't say, in their mind they think someone is profiting off their IP. Even though something like BOTW MP mod wouldn't effect sales. If anything it just highlights an interest from the PC market.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por Donut:

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

The point about Nintendo's console being behind technically is moot though, as they've NEVER really goen for that.

Their philosophy has ALWAYS been what the legend Gunpei Yokoi (the fabled Nintendo designer) dictated decades ago - make stuff with older, more reliable and cost effective tech, as you do not need to keep up to date to make games fun.

That's why he created the GameBoy. He did it deliberately for this reason and because back in the late 1980s, battery life was a massive issue too.

It was really only the Gamecube where they bucked the trend for once and tried to go for keeping up tech wise.

So sorry but that's not a valid argument.

Yeah, but no. In the last generation of consoles (Xbox One and PS4) the Xbox was behind playstations performance wise and nobody really cited any ‘legendary’ senpai for the sustainability and everyone went for the more powerful PS instead.

In fact if Greedtendo really would care about durability of their Switch they would have chosen a gorilla glass 2 display instead of a cheap plastic one. But they are simply greedy and don't care.

What on earth has anyone of that to do with the point?

Whether any of the other rivals were behind or in front doesn't change a damned thing about what Nintendo do. It is WELL DOCUMENTED this is their philosophy. As I said Gunpei Yokoi had gone on about this many times as has Shigeru Miyamoto.

So sorry, but this isn't a matter of opinion but demonstrable fact. They delierbately design their platforms to be behind the times as it were as it has certain benefits. One is reliability, and another is it keeps costs down.

And the point about Gorilla Glass is also moot. I never said they don't cut corners - ALL desinged products are built to cost.

[Bankai9212]

Its so they can actually profit from hardware, which is starting to have diminishing returns. Nintendo can't keep this philosophy especially with things like steamdeck existing.

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por Bankai9212:

Its so they can actually profit from hardware, which is starting to have diminishing returns. Nintendo can't keep this philosophy especially with things like steamdeck existing.

Maybe and maybe not. It tends to ebb and flow depending on how things are moving in the tech space.

There's been times in the past where things moved quickly, for example when 3D rendering became a thing and improved rapidly. That caused a rapid growth in tech there and while they did turn out the N64 to get on top of 3D gaming, they still were keeping things older in other regards as they always do.

[B]

I'm gonna hit the hay but it's refreshing to see the console wars are still going strong even 30 years later. It's funny that Nintendo is now considered such a threat that they constantly receive criticism.

Damn I remember arguing with peeps on digg about this ♥♥♥♥.

Have fun all ya fanboys and hateboys

[crunchyfrog]

Publicado originalmente por RotFox:

I'm gonna hit the hay but it's refreshing to see the console wars are still going strong even 30 years later. It's funny that Nintendo is now considered such a threat that they constantly receive criticism.

Have fun all ya fanboys and hateboys

It's always been fascinating to me how anyone picks one console and thinks they're married to it.

Never understood it at all. I just buy any console or computer that offers a certain number of exclusive games for it that warrant it being bought. Because a console or computer is just a box without it's games.

[Bankai9212]

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Publicado originalmente por Bankai9212:

Its so they can actually profit from hardware, which is starting to have diminishing returns. Nintendo can't keep this philosophy especially with things like steamdeck existing.

Maybe and maybe not. It tends to ebb and flow depending on how things are moving in the tech space.

There's been times in the past where things moved quickly, for example when 3D rendering became a thing and improved rapidly. That caused a rapid growth in tech there and while they did turn out the N64 to get on top of 3D gaming, they still were keeping things older in other regards as they always do.

Back then PC market wasn't as dominate and there wasn't much competition Nintendo could compete. With everything going online/digital Nintendo is incredibly behind to the point MS needs to help them with their online infrastructure. They can't keep this way of thinking anymore.

[Bankai9212]

Publicado originalmente por RotFox:

I'm gonna hit the hay but it's refreshing to see the console wars are still going strong even 30 years later. It's funny that Nintendo is now considered such a threat that they constantly receive criticism.

Damn I remember arguing with peeps on digg about this ♥♥♥♥.

Have fun all ya fanboys and hateboys

The issue is how some fans ignore things Nintendo does yet MS and Sony get flak for.

[Bankai9212]

Publicado originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Publicado originalmente por RotFox:

I'm gonna hit the hay but it's refreshing to see the console wars are still going strong even 30 years later. It's funny that Nintendo is now considered such a threat that they constantly receive criticism.

Have fun all ya fanboys and hateboys

It's always been fascinating to me how anyone picks one console and thinks they're married to it.

Never understood it at all. I just buy any console or computer that offers a certain number of exclusive games for it that warrant it being bought. Because a console or computer is just a box without it's games.

I stick with the system that has the most games, exclusives are a bonus if nothing else.

[funewchie]

Publicado originalmente por Devsman's Comet:

Maybe somebody who knows more legaljitsu than I do can explain this to me:

Why doesn't all this "if anybody draws a stickman that they say is supposed to look like your IP, you must crush it with extreme force or everything you ever did will go public domain" stuff apply to Capcom or SEGA, who are so fond of fans doing exactly that they have both published fan works themselves?

Exactly.

Notice the Nintendo fanboys refuse to answer that?

Sony, Xbox, Capcom, Sega, Ubisoft, EA, etc.... none of them are known for doing any of that, outside of at most a couple isolated incidents.
Meanwhile, Nintendo is INFAMOUS for doing this to many, many people.
Even threatening the liveihoods of people, even those following the bloody rules.

But no, the Nintendo fans hit us with the same pre-programmed response of "defending IPs, same as any company", despite that no other company has acted like this, to the extremes that Nintendo is acting.
So, no this is NOT NORMAL, fanboys.

And since they were so quick to push this back to an older page, I'll repost this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKDfkfnnxYo

Explain this, Nintendo fans.
Explain these points he made.
Explain how dozens of people are being destroyed by Nintendo when they weren't even posting copyrighted content, for merely discussing a franchise! For posting video within the guideline Nintendo set, after Nintendo was forced to acknowledge that Fair Use is an actual law!

(Calling it now, I'm either going to get the same cookiecutter BS about copyright law, or just flat-out insulted)