How every Vegan/Meat Eater debate goes

[UtahGlazer3000]

Cringey Meat Eater posts photo of burger, thinks it's hilarious.
Vegan copes and seethes.
Meat Eater thinks he did something.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af crunchyfrog:

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Veganism is popular among stupid people. If you are scared to be fat you can simply eat vegetarians. At the least you won't need pills because the lack of vitamins.

Nice sweeping claim.

Except that isn't reality. It might bake your noggin to realise that veganism and being veggie isn't a new fad and has been about far longer than anyone alive. The sixties happened too.

I've said it many times before on here, but I work at music festivals and regularly have worked with the same set of friends, many of whom are veggie to various degrees. To the extent they would often say "try this" and get me hooked on certain recipes.

Many of these people are incredibly fit, and healthy and older than me in my fifities, and some have been veggie for life.

So sorry, but this is pure garbage.

Sure dude, "many of these people". Have you done a statistics research on your own?

[Weimu]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af crunchyfrog:

Nice sweeping claim.

Except that isn't reality. It might bake your noggin to realise that veganism and being veggie isn't a new fad and has been about far longer than anyone alive. The sixties happened too.

I've said it many times before on here, but I work at music festivals and regularly have worked with the same set of friends, many of whom are veggie to various degrees. To the extent they would often say "try this" and get me hooked on certain recipes.

Many of these people are incredibly fit, and healthy and older than me in my fifities, and some have been veggie for life.

So sorry, but this is pure garbage.

Sure dude, "many of these people". Have you done a statistics research on your own?

well...did you?

[=(^ ^)=]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Weimu:

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Sure dude, "many of these people". Have you done a statistics research on your own?

well...did you?

It's a fact that vegans need to take pills because the lack of vitamins.

[King Narwhal]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Weimu:

well...did you?

It's a fact that vegans need to take pills because the lack of vitamins.

"Give me statistics research!"

"Do you have any yourself?"

"I assume all Vegans need pills!"

Goalposts be moving fast today.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af King Narwhal:

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It's a fact that vegans need to take pills because the lack of vitamins.

"Give me statistics research!"

"Do you have any yourself?"

"I assume all Vegans need pills!"

Goalposts be moving fast today.

Search it yourself.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Weimu:

well...did you?

It's a fact that vegans need to take pills because the lack of vitamins.

that really goes for anyone

i am not vegan,

but i know my diet is not enough and i take vitamins

[King Narwhal]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af King Narwhal:

"Give me statistics research!"

"Do you have any yourself?"

"I assume all Vegans need pills!"

Goalposts be moving fast today.

Search it yourself.

I did. B12 supplements if you don't go for vitamin-enriched foods (usually grains), but it's possible to go without them.
https://www.freshnlean.com/blog/vegan-b12-sources/
Here's one of several lists of vegan foods that give proper B12. Sweeping statements of "all vegans" are inaccurate.

https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/176565
Actual research on % of different vegan/vegetarian subsects that have vitamin deficiency. Notice how it isn't 100% of them for any category.

Doesn't address your goalpost shift though.

[jaydciv]

More like Live and let people eat?

[crunchyfrog]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af crunchyfrog:

Nice sweeping claim.

Except that isn't reality. It might bake your noggin to realise that veganism and being veggie isn't a new fad and has been about far longer than anyone alive. The sixties happened too.

I've said it many times before on here, but I work at music festivals and regularly have worked with the same set of friends, many of whom are veggie to various degrees. To the extent they would often say "try this" and get me hooked on certain recipes.

Many of these people are incredibly fit, and healthy and older than me in my fifities, and some have been veggie for life.

So sorry, but this is pure garbage.

Sure dude, "many of these people". Have you done a statistics research on your own?

No, because I don't need to - it wasn't my claim was it?

I'm tackling YOUR claim and not believing it. Your claim was that it's popular among stupid people. All I need to do is show you ANY people who aren't stupid and the fact they've been veggie for years and are the things the OPPOSITE of your claim.

That's how basic logic works.

And as for the other claims on here about lacking vitamins and so on - demonstrable ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ again. I'm not sure what part of the people I work with who I pointed out are fit and healthy and older than me in my fifties and been veggie all their life, you don't grasp.

Again all this seems to be based on you reading some weird reddit page or something. I'm afraid the world doesn't work like that. You might want to look outside your own borders as there are whole countries that have alrge mostly veggie diets and so on. It's almost like there's many people who make a world.

[98766545656432]

Oprindeligt skrevet af jaydciv:

More like Live and let people eat?

right?

i eat meat, but i will not eat the reproductive organs of an animal or babies

just my personal prefs

i won't lie and say i never played around, though

i used to post recipes for endangered animals on the peta forums

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Weimu:

well...did you?

It's a fact that vegans need to take pills because the lack of vitamins.

here you are again spouting misinformation...

fortified foods mean you don't need pills, I don't take pills and I've been vegan since 4 years old.

so its not a fact at all.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af King Narwhal:

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Search it yourself.

I did. B12 supplements if you don't go for vitamin-enriched foods (usually grains), but it's possible to go without them.
https://www.freshnlean.com/blog/vegan-b12-sources/
Here's one of several lists of vegan foods that give proper B12. Sweeping statements of "all vegans" are inaccurate.

https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/176565
Actual research on % of different vegan/vegetarian subsects that have vitamin deficiency. Notice how it isn't 100% of them for any category.

Doesn't address your goalpost shift though.

The B12 is one of them and you can find it only in the meat. So, am I giving an opinion or am I stating a fact? Before to go bersk do have a little search.

Oprindeligt skrevet af crunchyfrog:

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Sure dude, "many of these people". Have you done a statistics research on your own?

No, because I don't need to - it wasn't my claim was it?

I'm tackling YOUR claim and not believing it. Your claim was that it's popular among stupid people. All I need to do is show you ANY people who aren't stupid and the fact they've been veggie for years and are the things the OPPOSITE of your claim.

That's how basic logic works.

And as for the other claims on here about lacking vitamins and so on - demonstrable ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ again. I'm not sure what part of the people I work with who I pointed out are fit and healthy and older than me in my fifties and been veggie all their life, you don't grasp.

Again all this seems to be based on you reading some weird reddit page or something. I'm afraid the world doesn't work like that. You might want to look outside your own borders as there are whole countries that have alrge mostly veggie diets and so on. It's almost like there's many people who make a world.

Your claim is opinion, my "claim" is fact.

[Lupinus Rictus]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af King Narwhal:

I did. B12 supplements if you don't go for vitamin-enriched foods (usually grains), but it's possible to go without them.
https://www.freshnlean.com/blog/vegan-b12-sources/
Here's one of several lists of vegan foods that give proper B12. Sweeping statements of "all vegans" are inaccurate.

https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/176565
Actual research on % of different vegan/vegetarian subsects that have vitamin deficiency. Notice how it isn't 100% of them for any category.

Doesn't address your goalpost shift though.

The B12 is one of them and you can find it only in the meat. So, am I giving an opinion or am I stating a fact? Before to go bersk do have a little search.

Oprindeligt skrevet af crunchyfrog:

No, because I don't need to - it wasn't my claim was it?

I'm tackling YOUR claim and not believing it. Your claim was that it's popular among stupid people. All I need to do is show you ANY people who aren't stupid and the fact they've been veggie for years and are the things the OPPOSITE of your claim.

That's how basic logic works.

And as for the other claims on here about lacking vitamins and so on - demonstrable ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ again. I'm not sure what part of the people I work with who I pointed out are fit and healthy and older than me in my fifties and been veggie all their life, you don't grasp.

Again all this seems to be based on you reading some weird reddit page or something. I'm afraid the world doesn't work like that. You might want to look outside your own borders as there are whole countries that have alrge mostly veggie diets and so on. It's almost like there's many people who make a world.

Your claim is opinion, my "claim" is fact.

B12 is a actually a soil microbe and not an animal byproduct. Animals just do some of the work collecting it for you when they graze.

Livestock is given b12 ( as well as other ) supplements because of constant tilling of soil, it no longer contains enough natural microbes. So it's not really an animal product per se.

Obviously they recommend vegans take b12 supplements, because store bought vegatables and foods are grown in non ideal soil conditions. If you eat bread I think alot of it is fortified, but I'm not 100% I don't eat it.

You could grow your own vegetables and get more soil microbes that way, obviously not everyone has that possibility.

I'm not a vegan I eat anything, but the subject is interesting to me, anyway

[crunchyfrog]

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Oprindeligt skrevet af King Narwhal:

I did. B12 supplements if you don't go for vitamin-enriched foods (usually grains), but it's possible to go without them.
https://www.freshnlean.com/blog/vegan-b12-sources/
Here's one of several lists of vegan foods that give proper B12. Sweeping statements of "all vegans" are inaccurate.

https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/176565
Actual research on % of different vegan/vegetarian subsects that have vitamin deficiency. Notice how it isn't 100% of them for any category.

Doesn't address your goalpost shift though.

The B12 is one of them and you can find it only in the meat. So, am I giving an opinion or am I stating a fact? Before to go bersk do have a little search.

Oprindeligt skrevet af crunchyfrog:

No, because I don't need to - it wasn't my claim was it?

I'm tackling YOUR claim and not believing it. Your claim was that it's popular among stupid people. All I need to do is show you ANY people who aren't stupid and the fact they've been veggie for years and are the things the OPPOSITE of your claim.

That's how basic logic works.

And as for the other claims on here about lacking vitamins and so on - demonstrable ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ again. I'm not sure what part of the people I work with who I pointed out are fit and healthy and older than me in my fifties and been veggie all their life, you don't grasp.

Again all this seems to be based on you reading some weird reddit page or something. I'm afraid the world doesn't work like that. You might want to look outside your own borders as there are whole countries that have alrge mostly veggie diets and so on. It's almost like there's many people who make a world.

Your claim is opinion, my "claim" is fact.

Nope my claim is not opinion.

YOur claim is not fact as you haven't demonstrated empirical evidence to back yours up. Your claim is the same as mine - assertion based on evidence.

Now demonstrate that ALL veggies need these supplement pills to take when I can tell you that elderly veggies I know a lot of do not.

Maybe we have it better in Britain, maybe you just don't know that fortified foods exist across ALL foods. Ever eaten cereal?

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

This debate is like asking whos more annoying, the LMG Sprayer with armor piercing rounds coating the map in his rounds or the iron sights sniper that loves to show off, the awnser is neither, their both annoying but we end up becoming one or the other anyways