How every Vegan/Meat Eater debate goes

[UtahGlazer3000]

Cringey Meat Eater posts photo of burger, thinks it's hilarious.
Vegan copes and seethes.
Meat Eater thinks he did something.

[King Narwhal]

Originalmente postado por Weimu:

Originalmente postado por Ulfrinn:

All I have to point out is one side doesn't care what anyone else eats, the other makes it a point to attack the other for what they eat.

not really. this thread just proves that there are so many non-vegans or what i'd even call "anti-vegans" who are incredibly obsessed with mocking vegans or telling them how unhealthy their lifestyle is and how good meat is. screaming at an invisible enemy even though as you can see the few vegans that are on this thread aren't even being that combative, nor calling anyone "murderers" or whatever vegans are usually accused of saying.

not to sound like an enlightened centrist but in this case it truly is both sides that are obnoxious as ♥♥♥♥. moreover i guarantee you something, in a week from now or whenever OT forgets this thread existed make a non-combative thread that says "i'm vegan, ask me anything" and make sure not to say anything hostile, remain completely neutral in tone. guarantee you will get a ton of mockery and jester awards from insecure meat lovers

Extremists in general tend to be incredibly obnoxious, no matter the subject or side. Veganism vs. non-Veganism is no exception.

Luckily, it's a vocal minority, not majority.

[Vinegaroon]

Forgive me if I come off as an extremist I’m just a scientist that’s interested in health in addition to my other studies

[☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n]

There's no real debate to be had for me. If people want to be vegan, that's all good, and if people want to eat meat, that's good too....... It's about freedom of choice.

[Apollyon]

Originalmente postado por ☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n:

There's no real debate to be had for me. If people want to be vegan, that's all good, and if people want to eat meat, that's good too....... It's about freedom of choice.

Except vegans constantly try to enforce their inane beliefs onto meat eaters. It's quite comical.

[Your_White_Knight]

Originalmente postado por ⚔ Cold-Blooded Oppressor ⚔:

Originalmente postado por ☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n:

There's no real debate to be had for me. If people want to be vegan, that's all good, and if people want to eat meat, that's good too....... It's about freedom of choice.

Except vegans constantly try to enforce their inane beliefs onto meat eaters. It's quite comical.

Pretty much...

It's not the Omnivores starting these debates... it's mostly trolls that do.

But it's the Vegans that jump in those troll threads just to try to prove some non-point... that's why it's so comical... if the Vegans would ignore the trolls the threads like this would stop when the trolls get tired of nobody overreacting and ranting... Omnivores don't care what Vegans do.

But then again... welcome to Off Topic... that's what happens here.

[Apollyon]

Originalmente postado por Your_White_Knight:

Pretty much...

It's not the Omnivores starting these debates... it's mostly trolls that do.

But it's the Vegans that jump in those troll threads just to try to prove some non-point... that's why it's so comical... if the Vegans would ignore the trolls the threads like this would stop when the trolls get tired of nobody overreacting and ranting... Omnivores don't care what Vegans do.

But then again... welcome to Off Topic... that's what happens here.

It's funny you use the term "omnivore" instead of meat-eater. Almost every vegan I've debated has made the argument that humans are not omnivores but in fact herbivores. You can't make this stuff up.

[Your_White_Knight]

Originalmente postado por ⚔ Cold-Blooded Oppressor ⚔:

Originalmente postado por Your_White_Knight:

Pretty much...

It's not the Omnivores starting these debates... it's mostly trolls that do.

But it's the Vegans that jump in those troll threads just to try to prove some non-point... that's why it's so comical... if the Vegans would ignore the trolls the threads like this would stop when the trolls get tired of nobody overreacting and ranting... Omnivores don't care what Vegans do.

But then again... welcome to Off Topic... that's what happens here.

It's funny you use the term "omnivore" instead of meat-eater. Almost every vegan I've debated has made the argument that humans are not omnivores but in fact herbivores. You can't make this stuff up.

I use the term Omnivore because that's what people are... "meat eater" is just a term used mostly by trolls and Vegans to get a rise out of people... trying too hard to show a "polar opposite" of them like it's some sort of "got-ya"

I'm sure somewhere someone will claim to only eat meat and nothing else... but that too like Vegan ( IMO ) is an extremist stand... and everything in moderation is the best course.

[NOT penis man gaming]

Originalmente postado por Your_White_Knight:

Originalmente postado por ⚔ Cold-Blooded Oppressor ⚔:

It's funny you use the term "omnivore" instead of meat-eater. Almost every vegan I've debated has made the argument that humans are not omnivores but in fact herbivores. You can't make this stuff up.

I use the term Omnivore because that's what people are... "meat eater" is just a term used mostly by trolls and Vegans to get a rise out of people... trying too hard to show a "polar opposite" of them like it's some sort of "got-ya"

I'm sure somewhere someone will claim to only eat meat and nothing else... but that too like Vegan ( IMO ) is an extremist stand... and everything in moderation is the best course.

im pretty sure theres people that live up in really cold areas that do eat only fish

[Apollyon]

Originalmente postado por Your_White_Knight:

I use the term Omnivore because that's what people are... "meat eater" is just a term used mostly by trolls and Vegans to get a rise out of people... trying too hard to show a "polar opposite" of them like it's some sort of "got-ya"

I'm sure somewhere someone will claim to only eat meat and nothing else... but that too like Vegan ( IMO ) is an extremist stand... and everything in moderation is the best course.

Not quite. Humans are not omnivores, we're facultative carnivores. Meat-eater just refers to someone who eats meat. I don't see how that's a term used by trolls, it's pretty outlandish to see you make this claim lol.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with following a diet strictly eating meat. Plenty of people do it and it's much preferable to a plant-based diet. The fact you equate the two shows you're more vegan-sympathetic than you want to appear.

[Sir Dookface McFerretballs]

I think the main issue as to why this "debate" happens so much, is that the vegans usually want to STOP the omnivores or meat eaters or whatever they want to call "regular humans" from eating what they like, whereas the meat eaters and omnivores usually aren't trying to stop vegetables from being farmed out of some morals superiority complex.

There are a lot more insufferable "in your face vegans" out there than there are of some guys going out of their way to make everyone eat meat.

Most people are fine with other people they may not agree with till said people come in and try to tell them how to live their lives or actively try to stop them or change the other person's life in some way.

[Vinegaroon]

Then there is us in the scientific community with all our data and double blind randomized controlled trials. We are the most stuck up of all the groups because we read the data so we can tell you that you’re wrong and it’s supported by the evidence.

[NOT penis man gaming]

Originalmente postado por Vinegaroon:

Then there is us in the scientific community with all our data and double blind randomized controlled trials. We are the most stuck up of all the groups because we read the data so we can tell you that you’re wrong and it’s supported by the evidence.

is this on the vegan side or the normal side?

[Vinegaroon]

Originalmente postado por Cinnamon_Bananas:

Originalmente postado por Vinegaroon:

Then there is us in the scientific community with all our data and double blind randomized controlled trials. We are the most stuck up of all the groups because we read the data so we can tell you that you’re wrong and it’s supported by the evidence.

is this on the vegan side or the normal side?

Well “Whole Food Plant Based” usually that’s where the most evidence for longevity and disease prevention is. So eating mostly plants in an unprocessed form. But this isn’t strictly vegan. Many of the researchers I pull data from and many of the big names in this field have gone vegan though. I think part of it is animal agriculture doesn’t care for them so the enemy of my enemy.

Realistically though we are omnivores probably do best eating a diet of mostly whole plants with some meat. But there probably is benefit being vegan at least for the point of longevity .

For me the big debate is more keto vs carb. Keto isn’t studied that in depth and fasting needs some love too. Carbohydrates may be the better of the two fuels though overall going off the current science.

[aka]

I can run 50 km while chatting friends on Discord, and then go play Tennis after.

That's one benefit to being a Vegan.

Of course, another is the moral aspect. I didn't want to be one of those grey looking toxic dudes, living in the shadows, paying others to torture the innocent and voiceless to death for my pleasure & ill health, while trashing the whole planet like an NPC with a rotten gut that no one respects.


Additionally, and perhaps overlooked by vegans and non-vegans alike, I'll sum up the best I can in one scientific word "Pheromones"

[Ulfrinn]

Originalmente postado por Weimu:

Originalmente postado por Ulfrinn:

All I have to point out is one side doesn't care what anyone else eats, the other makes it a point to attack the other for what they eat.

not really. this thread just proves that there are so many non-vegans or what i'd even call "anti-vegans" who are incredibly obsessed with mocking vegans or telling them how unhealthy their lifestyle is and how good meat is. screaming at an invisible enemy even though as you can see the few vegans that are on this thread aren't even being that combative, nor calling anyone "murderers" or whatever vegans are usually accused of saying.

not to sound like an enlightened centrist but in this case it truly is both sides that are obnoxious as ♥♥♥♥. moreover i guarantee you something, in a week from now or whenever OT forgets this thread existed make a non-combative thread that says "i'm vegan, ask me anything" and make sure not to say anything hostile, remain completely neutral in tone. guarantee you will get a ton of mockery and jester awards from insecure meat lovers

Can you show me anyone telling you not to eat what you want? What you're trying to attribute to them as being extremist is them getting fed up with being told what they should be allowed to eat. Only one group actually has protests about this, and attacks others for their choice. There is no parity. Nobody is going to a vegan restaurant and calling people murderers or throwing ♥♥♥♥ at them while they're trying to enjoy a meal.