Do you believe that consoles should have pre-installed browsers?
There are so many people who think that consoles should not have a built-in browser because it's a console, but why is that? Wouldn't it be better if there was a browser? You could do more than just play overpriced games on your console.

And the argument is always like, 'But you have a phone and even a personal computer, so we shouldn't have something that would be useful in the console.
Naposledy upravil I like boobies; 14. zář. 2024 v 20.46
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nah, watching boobies is not allowed while gaming
Wumbo původně napsal:
nah, watching boobies is not allowed while gaming
Why can't I do both?
While not pre-installed (it was still the era of "browser discs" - an arcane and forgotten concept today that sounds mad to people,) Dreamcast had one 25 years ago, so I don't see why not.
yeah should not since it is slow and inconvenient to use. everyone has a phone now
Ps3 had a browser, and you know what else did... the 3DS.

The Funny thing about the 3DS and it's browser is that as long as you had a GB game that you purchased on the store, all you had to do was go to a website which injected code into your system - to allow you to play any game that you wanted.

I'm not sure about newer systems if they have browsers, but there is a reason why having access to the internet other then their store or online gaming, could comprimise that closed system.
Wenda 14. zář. 2024 v 21.32 
90054321564584560 původně napsal:
yeah should not since it is slow and inconvenient to use. everyone has a phone now
a lot of people still do not have cell phones, and even some that do dont have ones advanced enough for web browsing
Felix the Cat původně napsal:
90054321564584560 původně napsal:
yeah should not since it is slow and inconvenient to use. everyone has a phone now
a lot of people still do not have cell phones, and even some that do dont have ones advanced enough for web browsing

Not to mention, having a smart phone is irrelevant to the desire for a browser on consoles. For some reason today people seem to think everything can simply be redundant if you own a smart phone. Want voice chat on your Switch? Use a smart phone app. Want to browse the web? Use a smart phone.

Not everyone wants that user experience. I don't want to switch between the comfortable interface I'm already using with a controller (or keyboard) at my fingertips, put it down, and grab my phone instead.

I also just don't enjoy tiny little touch screens when I'm in the middle of a full fat, big box console experience on my couch. I know this is me having an old head moment, but I prefer tactile feedback. Buttons. Clicks. Triggers. Thumbsticks. Keys. Not an overly sensitive, slippery flat screen that feels like I'm touching air, with my giant fingers trying to precisely hit the overly sensitive tiny on-screen keys displayed. And yes I know I can just attach a kb to the smart phone but at that point I'd just prefer to be on my PC or console anyway.

Phones are the thing I take with me when I have to leave my home and want a way to contact people or, grudgingly, if I have to, browse the web in a less than ideal way. They are not the default or preferred way for me to surf the web. They are things I use because I have to, not because I want to. If I wanted the mobile experience, I wouldn't be playing on a console or PC in the first place. The whole point of a console for me is for it to be an integrated, seamless, all-in-one, convenient to use set top box that doesn't require other devices.
Naposledy upravil Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser; 14. zář. 2024 v 23.27
More functionality is not always better. Sometimes you just want a tool dedicated and designed around one specific task that does this one specific task rather well. Your brave little toaster does not have to boil pasta, scramble eggs or microwave leftovers to earn a spot on your kitchen counter. All it needs to do is toast bread quickly and at least somewhat evenly. Yes, I know there are toaster ovens, but those are more oven than toaster really, and toasters still sell well despite the existence of a device that can do more because all of the added settings necessary to make it capable of baking and roasting detract from the simplicity of making toast. My mom has bought toasters despite us having a toaster oven because she just wants to put the bread in, press down the lever and get toast.

One of the main selling points of a console over a dedicated device is supposed to be ease of use of the device. Back in the 1990s this made a great deal of sense. You just stick a game in the cartridge slot or disc drive and you're at the game's start menu. You just press the start button, maybe select a character to play as and boom, you're playing the game.

These days you have to go through a G.U.I. to even get the game running, and you have a settings menu that you need to fiddle around with. It's not much simpler than using android or I.O.S. In fact, the Ouya, the Nvidia Shield and the Amazon Fire T.V. are all fundamentally Android devices.

Second, the svelte operating system is supposed to maximizing the performance the available hardware resources because you don't have the overhead of an operating system. If you have to have a gigabyte of system overhead locked into the R.A.M. the that kind of goes against that point.

Third, there isn't really much of a reason you couldn't use a computer like a console if it doesn't have those benefits. That's what Big Picture Mode is meant to accomplish. Give your computer a console-like U.I. You can even configure your P.C. to just boot directly into Big Picture Mode.

There is literally noting that a video game console can accomplish that a computer fundamentally couldn't accomplish because video game consoles are just computers under the hood. Any fundamental differences betwixt the two simply come down to how the two are preconfigured and presented.

Many of these extra features are defeating some of what the point is in the first place.

FafnirChaos původně napsal:
Ps3 had a browser, and you know what else did... the 3DS.

The Playstation 3 is not a video game console. It's an imac disguised as a video game console. :-P
Naposledy upravil Tonepoet; 15. zář. 2024 v 0.10
Only if the browser has strong adblocking and customization.

No Manifestv3!

Consoles and devices shouldn't have any unremovable preinstalled links on it's menus. ♥♥♥♥ like Windows "live tiles" are worthless, but at least you can get rid of them. Mobile devices and consoles and smart TVs that stick Facebook and Netflix and Spotify on the main menu with no way to remove are abominations.
I like boobies původně napsal:
There are so many people who think that consoles should not have a built-in browser because it's a console, but why is that? Wouldn't it be better if there was a browser? You could do more than just play overpriced games on your console.

And the argument is always like, 'But you have a phone and even a personal computer, so we shouldn't have something that would be useful in the console.

No. Why do consoles need a web browser?
abcd 15. zář. 2024 v 0.08 
Michael původně napsal:
I like boobies původně napsal:
There are so many people who think that consoles should not have a built-in browser because it's a console, but why is that? Wouldn't it be better if there was a browser? You could do more than just play overpriced games on your console.

And the argument is always like, 'But you have a phone and even a personal computer, so we shouldn't have something that would be useful in the console.

No. Why do consoles need a web browser?

so that console designers don't need to create a proprietary way to display information sent over the web.
There's no reason not to, it's just a browser. But it's not really needed, I guess it was more useful in the 90s but I've never used one.
Starlight původně napsal:
There's no reason not to, it's just a browser. But it's not really needed, I guess it was more useful in the 90s but I've never used one.

In the 90s we browsed the web on computers... By the end a 386 could not keep up.
Naposledy upravil Michael; 15. zář. 2024 v 0.10
Starlight původně napsal:
There's no reason not to, it's just a browser. But it's not really needed, I guess it was more useful in the 90s but I've never used one.

The only major 1990s video game console that had proper internet access was the Dreamcast, and I'm pretty sure that didn't have a built in browser. The system was capable of using Windows C.E. as a host operating system for the games, and even has the Windows C.E. logo on the device itself, but most devs. didn't bother with that because of the unnecessary system overhead significantly hindered the console's performance.

Combine that with how similar its controller design would end up being to Microsoft's later controllers (the resemblance is especially evident with the 360 controller), and the Dreamcast truly is the first xbox. >_>
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