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TurtleToes Apr 13, 2015 @ 5:15pm
Polyurethane Chairs
So, I finally bought an office chair because that fricking wooden chair would hurt my back. I started putting together the chair, until I noticed a warning of a material in it known to cause cancer aka Polyurethane. Is it safe to use this chair? Due to the many things that are made of polyurethane, I think it is no risk, but it would be good to get some feedback, Thanks!

Polyurethane 97%
Polyester 7%

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You should avoid eating the chair.
76561198210430940 Apr 13, 2015 @ 5:19pm 
when i google seached Polyurethane i got the results


Google

polyurethane foam
polyurethane condoms
polyurethane fabric
polyurethane finish

and i think codoms have regulations or something
TurtleToes Apr 13, 2015 @ 5:20pm 
Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:
You should avoid eating the chair.
Haha I'll make note of that
Look, everything causes cancer nowadays.
TurtleToes Apr 13, 2015 @ 5:31pm 
Originally posted by The Space Butterfly:
Look, everything causes cancer nowadays.
True, Like I said, I just wanted to be sure ;)
Pssh... Everything causes cancer these days...

Except for cancer...

You never see a warning label on cancer that it causes cancer, but everything else has a label that it causes cancer.

Illuminati confirmed.
jpcerutti Apr 13, 2015 @ 6:35pm 
Try not to set the chair on fire and then huff it.

Liberal application of solvents would also be a bad idea.

If you are really concerned you are just going to have to quit gaming naked.
Last edited by jpcerutti; Apr 13, 2015 @ 6:37pm
Unexpected Apr 13, 2015 @ 6:42pm 
Originally posted by The Space Butterfly:
Look, everything causes cancer nowadays.
that's why europe needs to import more goods to the US, they need real stuff over there for once
supertrooper225 Apr 13, 2015 @ 6:44pm 
Oxygen causes cancer these days.....
C4Warr10r Apr 13, 2015 @ 7:30pm 
What you need to remember is that cancer-causing chemicals are only cancer-causing in context. The tests used to identify cancer-causing chemicals are done on mice and bacteria, which are given doses so heavy that anything which affect biological makeup will register as a carcinogen.

Such are the standards used, because anything which might be harmful to humans in any capacity is grounds for legal recourse. It does not matter if the odds are one in one million. People stand to gain millions from such attacks. Tell, me, which is more powerful? The fact that people are still being sued over asbestos, which was banned years ago and isn't even a carcinogn should tell you the truth. Do not make the mistake of believing that people watching out for "your" saftey neglect their own.

Roughly 50% of artifical chemicals are carcinogens when delivered in doses required to classify them as such. How tediously alarming. Half of the chemicals we produce are cancerous? It sounds horrible, until you conisder that natural chemicals have the same rate of carcinogenic effects. They are just molecules, and they have to form molecular bonds to work. They either work with the body or they don't. Either way, the body eliminates chemicals it doesn't need and completely foreign substances are more likely to form cysts than cancer.

Either that or it dies, which takes enough engineering to produce chemical weapons. Not everybody has those because, as it turns out, producing a toxic subtsnce for the human body that it won't destroy or expel takes quite a bit of effort.

Even then, you have a 33% chance of getting cancer just from being alive. Cancer is caused by genetic mutations over millions of cellular reproductions spanning trillions of cells. It is an inevitability if you live long enough. You were not designed to live that long. You were designed to reproduce and then clear the way for new genes. When people say that, for instance, you increase your risk of cancer by smoking, what they really mean is that if you have ♥♥♥♥♥♥, cancer-prone genes, you'll just get it earlier. Probably. Maybe. If the trancscriptase RNA goes bad.

What is a 100% increase in a one in a million chance or a certainty? Nothing. What is the profit from making people fear such idiocy? As the OP stated, everything is cancerous.

But I suspect that won't be enough for some, who are ready to claim that perfectly normal crap causes cancer and they should be given recompense for it. To those people, I offer a jewel of a case. Erin Brokovitch. She was totally vindicated, yes? There was a whole movie. How many people in that case were ever diagnosed with any cancerous symptoms as a result of hexavalent chromium? Nobody. Say what you will of courts, PG&E had to settle out of court, none of which was paid to non-existent cancer victims. This is but a taste of what happens when those with a motive twist the natural to their purposes. They aren't fighting cancer, they're fighting for what you know to be true, themselves.
Gus the Crocodile Apr 13, 2015 @ 7:48pm 
Originally posted by C4Warr10r:
The fact that people are still being sued over asbestos, which was banned years ago and isn't even a carcinogn should tell you the truth.
Wow. This statement is singlehandedly unraveling your credibility.

Varieties of asbestos commonly used in construction are indeed hazardous to human health, and associated with a range of diseases including lung cancer. People are still being sued because guess what, this crap is still in buildings all over the world.

Where on earth are you getting this idea that asbestos isn't carcinogenic?
C4Warr10r Apr 13, 2015 @ 8:05pm 
Originally posted by Gus the Crocodile:
This statement is singlehandedly unraveling your credibility.

Varieties of asbestos commonly used in construction are indeed hazardous to human health, and associated with a range of diseases including lung cancer. People are still being sued because guess what, this crap is still in buildings all over the world.

Where on earth are you getting this idea that asbestos isn't carcinogenic?

I didn't say it wasn't. It's just that it is so minimially carcinogenic that it isn't even worth noticing. Asbestos isn't even a true carcinogenic substance. It does not interact with DNA, because it is inert. All it does is puncture macrophages which try to devour it. The body then produces more, which may lead to cancer.

You already have billions of particles like that in your body, but since peaople can't sue for dust and diatoms nobody cares. Asbestos was ony a problem when people inhaled it in massive quantities. Look at the pictures of US shipyards in the 40's. It looks like it is snowing. All of that is asbestos. That's how much it takes to produce a demonstrable effect.

And your case is what? That asbestos safely contained in walls is hurting you? Try not to be an idiot. Ripping those walls down only releases the substance, and since nobody has bothered to erect a dome to contain it, I can only assume it's because they know it doesn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ matter. What they do know is that people will pay an arm and a leg for crap that doesn't hurt them, but seems like it could.

Or shall I go into the case of diazinon? I've got millions of these.
Last edited by C4Warr10r; Apr 13, 2015 @ 8:06pm
highfivingbears Apr 13, 2015 @ 8:19pm 
Yeah,science!
Gus the Crocodile Apr 13, 2015 @ 8:22pm 
Originally posted by C4Warr10r:
Originally posted by Gus the Crocodile:
Where on earth are you getting this idea that asbestos isn't carcinogenic?

I didn't say it wasn't.
You did, right there in the passage I quoted, if you care to read your words. And then you just said it again. "True carcinogen" is a nonsense term. A carcinogen is a material that causes cancer. In the case of asbestos, the mechanism is physical rather than chemical, yes. So what?

Asbestos used in construction isn't all "safely contained in walls". The last place I lived had planter boxes partially made of asbestos tile, and it was just painted over. Lots of buildings have asbestos under coatings that will chip and wear like everything eventually does. Yes, most asbestos is contained "safely" deeper in the structure, and you only need to take heavy precautions in demolition. Consequently, most building occupants aren't suing.
C4Warr10r Apr 13, 2015 @ 8:49pm 
Originally posted by Gus the Crocodile:
Originally posted by C4Warr10r:

I didn't say it wasn't.
You did, right there in the passage I quoted, if you care to read your words. And then you just said it again. "True carcinogen" is a nonsense term. A carcinogen is a material that causes cancer. In the case of asbestos, the mechanism is physical rather than chemical, yes. So what?

Asbestos used in construction isn't all "safely contained in walls". The last place I lived had planter boxes partially made of asbestos tile, and it was just painted over. Lots of buildings have asbestos under coatings that will chip and wear like everything eventually does. Yes, most asbestos is contained "safely" deeper in the structure, and you only need to take heavy precautions in demolition. Consequently, most building occupants aren't suing.

The "so what?" is that you're missing the point. You readily quote the carcinogen part, but not the context part. You missed the odds of getting it, the fact you will get it, and the mechanisms by which it works.

This is to say nothing of the fact that you're lying or just wrong Nobody paints over asbestos. What would be the point? It would be like painting over fiberglass insulation, which, btw, does the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing!

You can't make life foolproof, but you can make a life that rewards people who play on fools. You've bought into a charade that is designed to do nothing more than exploit you. The proof is in the pudding, as I mentioned. If asbestos were so horribly life-threatening, why aren't measures taken to contain it like a radiation leakage or Love Canal? It's because there is a sucker born every minute. The only thing that changes is who buys what.
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