Congratulations Gamers! We Won!

[[ءΗc]mihandenoob]

DEI is getting dismantled and layed off!

[Goblin]

https://youtu.be/s-09gNDsPzQ?si=ki7fCYMR8xfDCRoN

I wish this hobby wasn't so degenerate with genuine beliefs like this. I wish gamers were genuinely oppressed at this point

[abcd]

actually they're just going after diversity programs; DEI will continue.

infact this is basically an expression of DEI.

[abcd]

引用自 Goblin：

https://youtu.be/s-09gNDsPzQ?si=ki7fCYMR8xfDCRoN

I wish this hobby wasn't so degenerate with genuine beliefs like this. I wish gamers were genuinely oppressed at this point

well we're ground 0 for actual engagement with propaganda. so we're on the front lines of the cyberwar as civilian casualties nobody gives two doge about.

but that's completely different from so many foreign agents crowding your poolhall that locals stop going there, I guess. right? no?

[The nameless Gamer]

引用自 Chrisader：

引用自 The nameless Gamer：

To make sure I am missing it or not, are you trying to argue that if enough people are yelling "woke bad", |"Four legs good, two legs bad." , developers will have to avoid putting things into games which make these personas uncomfortable?

I'm arguing that that if woke bad is the main narrative rather then the game itself, then it creates ripple effect of bad word of mouth, which leads to lower or outright low sales.

Again I can't speak for what people said about Space Marine 2 at the time, as I don't really keep up with modern game news. As I prefer playing older games.

But I very rarely, if ever hear anyone talk about Space Marine 2 being woke. And also after playing it myself I don't think it is.

I usually hear people just talk about the game itself. But when I look at something like Vailguard, it's always the writing is woke and cringe, and Bioware is going under because of low sales. Things like that.

That is point, if general discussion is how woke a game is, then it's hard not to see why it's an offput for most people.

Games should be about being fun, not about developers lashing out, this game has a character going on about being non binary. Which feels like modern day drama rather then a fantasy game.

Again it is personal preference, you may disagree with that. That is fine.

But if most people don't want it either as that is all you hear about, then clearly they should be focusing on other factors instead.

Or just make a game on a small budget for that smaller audience.

I also mostly play obscure and unpopular games, but not only old ones. In fact, I have no trouble finding modern games which are good. And whatever members of any "group think faction" have to say is none of my concern when it comes to playing the game. But I don't like seeing a game's community hub cluttered up by idiotic posts like "Women in a military is bad", like it happened in the 6th devlog post for the game "Menace". People who wanted "Battle Brothers in space" were suddenly outraged at a female squad leader and started flooding the discussion with useless drama. For context: "Battle Brothers" was the first game of the developers of "Menace". So, people who want "Battle Brothers in space" are obviously not the target audience and they can go somewhere else instead of annoying the developers AND the target audience with their anti-women rhetoric.

[abcd]

but battle brothers is already in space.

sounds like a nonsensical complaint designed to edge out a 40k competitor using illegal brigading.

[The nameless Gamer]

引用自 abcd：

but battle brothers is already in space.

sounds like a nonsensical complaint designed to edge out a 40k competitor using illegal brigading.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/365360/Battle_Brothers/?curator_clanid=33132991
Unless you're being sarcastic and are trying to play it like: "Earth is in space, isn't it?"

[crunchyfrog]

The fact that some Trump supporters or right wingers think this is a win demonstrates how little they understand anything.

It won't affect games in the slightest. And especially those that aren't made in the US.

[Valfossa]

引用自 The nameless Gamer：

引用自 Chrisader：

I'm arguing that that if woke bad is the main narrative rather then the game itself, then it creates ripple effect of bad word of mouth, which leads to lower or outright low sales.

Again I can't speak for what people said about Space Marine 2 at the time, as I don't really keep up with modern game news. As I prefer playing older games.

But I very rarely, if ever hear anyone talk about Space Marine 2 being woke. And also after playing it myself I don't think it is.

I usually hear people just talk about the game itself. But when I look at something like Vailguard, it's always the writing is woke and cringe, and Bioware is going under because of low sales. Things like that.

That is point, if general discussion is how woke a game is, then it's hard not to see why it's an offput for most people.

Games should be about being fun, not about developers lashing out, this game has a character going on about being non binary. Which feels like modern day drama rather then a fantasy game.

Again it is personal preference, you may disagree with that. That is fine.

But if most people don't want it either as that is all you hear about, then clearly they should be focusing on other factors instead.

Or just make a game on a small budget for that smaller audience.

I also mostly play obscure and unpopular games, but not only old ones. In fact, I have no trouble finding modern games which are good. And whatever members of any "group think faction" have to say is none of my concern when it comes to playing the game. But I don't like seeing a game's community hub cluttered up by idiotic posts like "Women in a military is bad", like it happened in the 6th devlog post for the game "Menace". People who wanted "Battle Brothers in space" were suddenly outraged at a female squad leader and started flooding the discussion with useless drama. For context: "Battle Brothers" was the first game of the developers of "Menace". So, people who want "Battle Brothers in space" are obviously not the target audience and they can go somewhere else instead of annoying the developers AND the target audience with their anti-women rhetoric.

That fine I'm not saying it has to be a concern for you at all. And maybe that discussion about Menace will be useless because it's a smaller title.

And if the developer is fine with having a smaller audience, then that is most likely what they are going to have.

[crunchyfrog]

引用自 Chrisader：

引用自 The nameless Gamer：

I also mostly play obscure and unpopular games, but not only old ones. In fact, I have no trouble finding modern games which are good. And whatever members of any "group think faction" have to say is none of my concern when it comes to playing the game. But I don't like seeing a game's community hub cluttered up by idiotic posts like "Women in a military is bad", like it happened in the 6th devlog post for the game "Menace". People who wanted "Battle Brothers in space" were suddenly outraged at a female squad leader and started flooding the discussion with useless drama. For context: "Battle Brothers" was the first game of the developers of "Menace". So, people who want "Battle Brothers in space" are obviously not the target audience and they can go somewhere else instead of annoying the developers AND the target audience with their anti-women rhetoric.

That fine I'm not saying it has to be a concern for you at all. And maybe that discussion about Menace will be useless because it's a smaller title.

And if the developer is fine with having a smaller audience, then that is most likely what they are going to have.

I always laugh at those silly people who spout "go woke go broke".

Because time and again the evidence shows that those who choose to be right wing bigots and push right wing agendas tend to fall apart quickly. Cake shops, small businesses all have seen evidence of this.

The sad reality for such people is finding out that not just in the US, but everywhere else too, basic empathy and and all that is normal, not their puritanical nonsense.

[The nameless Gamer]

引用自 Chrisader：

引用自 The nameless Gamer：

I also mostly play obscure and unpopular games, but not only old ones. In fact, I have no trouble finding modern games which are good. And whatever members of any "group think faction" have to say is none of my concern when it comes to playing the game. But I don't like seeing a game's community hub cluttered up by idiotic posts like "Women in a military is bad", like it happened in the 6th devlog post for the game "Menace". People who wanted "Battle Brothers in space" were suddenly outraged at a female squad leader and started flooding the discussion with useless drama. For context: "Battle Brothers" was the first game of the developers of "Menace". So, people who want "Battle Brothers in space" are obviously not the target audience and they can go somewhere else instead of annoying the developers AND the target audience with their anti-women rhetoric.

That fine I'm not saying it has to be a concern for you at all. And maybe that discussion about Menace will be useless because it's a smaller title.

And if the developer is fine with having a smaller audience, then that is most likely what they are going to have.

You'd be surprised how many gamers actually DON'T care about what the rage-baiting crowd is whining. Street Fighter VI, Helldivers II, Baldur's Gate III, Battletech, Hades I and II are just part of the proof. It's just that the gaming communities would be even BETTER without those drama queens whining about non-whites, non-straight people and women in video games.

[Valfossa]

引用自 The nameless Gamer：

引用自 Chrisader：

That fine I'm not saying it has to be a concern for you at all. And maybe that discussion about Menace will be useless because it's a smaller title.

And if the developer is fine with having a smaller audience, then that is most likely what they are going to have.

You'd be surprised how many gamers actually DON'T care about what the rage-baiting crowd is whining. Street Fighter VI, Helldivers II, Baldur's Gate III, Battletech, Hades I and II are just part of the proof. It's just that the gaming communities would be even BETTER without those drama queens whining about non-whites, non-straight people and women in video games.

Uh huh, missing the point again I see. Have fun with that.

[Abaddon the Despoiler]

引用自 crunchyfrog：

The sad reality for such people is finding out that not just in the US, but everywhere else too, basic empathy and and all that is normal, not their puritanical nonsense.

So that's why we have been finding any excuse to slaughter each other for thousands of years. It's all that empathy.

[crunchyfrog]

引用自 Chrisader：

引用自 The nameless Gamer：

You'd be surprised how many gamers actually DON'T care about what the rage-baiting crowd is whining. Street Fighter VI, Helldivers II, Baldur's Gate III, Battletech, Hades I and II are just part of the proof. It's just that the gaming communities would be even BETTER without those drama queens whining about non-whites, non-straight people and women in video games.

Uh huh, missing the point again I see. Have fun with that.

No that's ENTIRELY the point.

When people on the right in the US talk about these things they have NO IDEA how people think outside their borders.

Otherwise they'd realise that inclusivity and euqalitity are NORMAL and have been for decades in many countries and it thrives.

So tyo us it doesn't mean anything of note. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[crunchyfrog]

引用自 Abaddon the Despoiler：

引用自 crunchyfrog：

The sad reality for such people is finding out that not just in the US, but everywhere else too, basic empathy and and all that is normal, not their puritanical nonsense.

So that's why we have been finding any excuse to slaughter each other for thousands of years. It's all that empathy.

Piss poor logic.

I never said EVERYONE thinks the same way - that's patently ridiculous.

Your claim has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

[Abaddon the Despoiler]

引用自 crunchyfrog：

引用自 Abaddon the Despoiler：

So that's why we have been finding any excuse to slaughter each other for thousands of years. It's all that empathy.

Piss poor logic.

I never said EVERYONE thinks the same way - that's patently ridiculous.

Your claim has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

I never made a claim. I just showed how stupid yours was.

If the majority thought like you, Trump would not be president.